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The Grandmaster
Joined: 12 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:37 am Post subject: |
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Plodder wrote: Quote: Neither does a zygote Live cells are not classified according to the standard of what a "lifeform" is. a zygoter is a seperate entity that depends on the mother for life. that means that the mother cannot make the descision to kill it.
Actually, she most certainly can, or there would be no abortion forum to begin with. :lol:
Rubber Govt wrote: If masturbation is the taking of life then I have wiped out entire civilizations with a dirty sock.
Haha, ahh, gotta love Goerge Carlin. :tu: :lol: |
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AllAmericanMan
Joined: 07 Mar 2005
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Quote: Actually, she most certainly can, or there would be no abortion forum to begin with.
Oh grow up man this forum is here to debate its legality. Every time a pro lifer calls a fetus a baby or a person or a human being they are mrely conveying their perspective. You can pull a Steen and disagree with all the details but you clearly cant argue against them. |
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cup2006Sens
Joined: 07 Jun 2006
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LostSoul3412 wrote: alclarkey wrote: Demonic Spoon wrote: So...how exactly does bonding with an egg make it "murder" to kill it? It is now a full human being. Besides in each ejaculation there are roughly 400 million sperm. If one of those does happen to be strong enough or "man" enough to make it to the egg than it must deserve to live. Fits Darwin's theory of natural selection.
Darwin's theory of natural selection no longer applies to humans because of modern medical technology. In the "natural world", creatures with weaker aspects die out when competing with mutated animals than have adapted their genetic makeup to their current environment. Humans, at this point, are either unapplicable to natural selection, or the human race is slowly devolving because of the continuation of "flawed genes". Medicine advances allow those genes to survive in the gene pool, and spread to the next generation of humans. So if you're going to say that a sperm that fertilizes an egg follows natural selection, then I would say that we're either above natural selection, or we're all genetically doomed.
Evolution has nothing to do with the fact that the average person is 2 or 3 inches taller than their parents? Or that in say 1900 the average man was maybe 5 foot 4 or 5 foot 5 and now they are 5 foot 9?
Just wondering since of course humans are no longer the subject of evolution. We are above all this natural selection stuff since we aren't just animals after all. |
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Plodder
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| Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: Actually, she most certainly can, or there would be no abortion forum to begin with. we are here to debate that. |
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