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steen
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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Plodder wrote: Quote: ... Which are forms of Christianity.
they are heretics. Nope. They are mainstream Christian denominations, your endless lies none withstanding.
Quote: Quote: And the Spanish Inquisition? Any more excuses and denials? actrually yes, this just show how little of history you know. The Spanish Inquisition was conducted by the Monarchs of Spain without the approval of the Vatican. You are lying. Ferdinand specifically got Papal approval. MUST you always lie? (Rethorical question, of cource you must lie, that is what you do, like birds fly and fish swim) |
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Revenant
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If your pro-life, do you have to be against masterbation?
Maybe that explains why pro-lifers are so bent out of shape all the time. |
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AllAmericanMan
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Renevant wrote: If your pro-life, do you have to be against masterbation?
Maybe that explains why pro-lifers are so bent out of shape all the time. Thats a pretty needless inflamatory remark that doesnt explain anything or add anything to the level of debate. Thanks for your input though? |
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Revenant
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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AllAmericanMan wrote: Renevant wrote: If your pro-life, do you have to be against masterbation?
Maybe that explains why pro-lifers are so bent out of shape all the time. Thats a pretty needless inflamatory remark that doesnt explain anything or add anything to the level of debate. Thanks for your input though?
You're quite welcome :lol: |
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Rubber Govt
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The definition of life determines if it is murder. If a subject lacks the "6" characteristics of "life/living" then it won't constitute as murder. Apparently this has been changed to "or start exhibiting signs of life." Like Guevaras "You don't need to meed all 5 necessities for revolution, so long as you meet them soon after it starts" Not an exact quote, but similar.
Now, IMO, because certain people can't keep their theology out of science the "exhits signs" is part of the arguement ("Well, who are you to say when it is "living" or not?" |
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Plodder
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| Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 1:49 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: Nope. They are mainstream Christian denominations, your endless lies none withstanding. maybe according to you but for all of us who dstayed aboard the train they are called heretics. or schismatic (orthodox) |
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steen
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| Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Rubber Govt wrote: The definition of life determines if it is murder. The legal definition of murder is what determines whether an act is "murder." |
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TheGirlNextDoor
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| Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 7:53 pm Post subject: Re: If your pro-life, do you have to be against masterbation |
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Lowro8d6 wrote: I have never made a firm stance on abortion because i like to play devils advocate and argue both ways. But do you think if a person is pro-life than that person should not masterbate because whenever a person gets a playboy and a tissue he is in fact killing life?
Ive heard this argument once and just want to know what you people think...
I think its mass genocide! lol :shock: jk
Masturbating and then wasting ejaculate? How exactly can it be considered "killing life" when it's one cell that cannot reproduce on its own? |
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steen
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| Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 7:54 pm Post subject: Re: If your pro-life, do you have to be against masterbation |
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| TheGirlNextDoor wrote: Masturbating and then wasting ejaculate? How exactly can it be considered "killing life" when it's one cell that cannot reproduce on its own? gamete cells are alive. Killing them off is certainly "killing life." |
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Revenant
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| Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 7:55 pm Post subject: Re: If your pro-life, do you have to be against masterbation |
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TheGirlNextDoor wrote: Lowro8d6 wrote: I have never made a firm stance on abortion because i like to play devils advocate and argue both ways. But do you think if a person is pro-life than that person should not masterbate because whenever a person gets a playboy and a tissue he is in fact killing life?
Ive heard this argument once and just want to know what you people think...
I think its mass genocide! lol :shock: jk
Masturbating and then wasting ejaculate? How exactly can it be considered "killing life" when it's one cell that cannot reproduce on its own?
I certainly don't waste it, I use it as lotion, as I have very dry elbows. |
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AllAmericanMan
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| Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 10:19 pm Post subject: Re: If your pro-life, do you have to be against masterbation |
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Renevant wrote: TheGirlNextDoor wrote: Lowro8d6 wrote: I have never made a firm stance on abortion because i like to play devils advocate and argue both ways. But do you think if a person is pro-life than that person should not masterbate because whenever a person gets a playboy and a tissue he is in fact killing life?
Ive heard this argument once and just want to know what you people think...
I think its mass genocide! lol :shock: jk
Masturbating and then wasting ejaculate? How exactly can it be considered "killing life" when it's one cell that cannot reproduce on its own?
I certainly don't waste it, I use it as lotion, as I have very dry elbows.
Why is it you never have anything serious to add? Are you so insecure you come to this board for a rise out of people like your last "poll" suggested? |
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Revenant
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| Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 11:34 pm Post subject: Re: If your pro-life, do you have to be against masterbation |
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AllAmericanMan wrote: Renevant wrote: TheGirlNextDoor wrote: Lowro8d6 wrote: I have never made a firm stance on abortion because i like to play devils advocate and argue both ways. But do you think if a person is pro-life than that person should not masterbate because whenever a person gets a playboy and a tissue he is in fact killing life?
Ive heard this argument once and just want to know what you people think...
I think its mass genocide! lol :shock: jk
Masturbating and then wasting ejaculate? How exactly can it be considered "killing life" when it's one cell that cannot reproduce on its own?
I certainly don't waste it, I use it as lotion, as I have very dry elbows.
Why is it you never have anything serious to add? Are you so insecure you come to this board for a rise out of people like your last "poll" suggested?
Well, I have been insecure about my dry elbows ever since a couple women I know remarked that they felt like "elephant skin". |
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AllAmericanMan
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| I noticed the first vote on your poll was "i just come here to piss off the sensative people" or something to that effect. Your responses seemed to support my hypothesis that it was you who cast this vote. Add juvenile to your sig. |
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Nicholas
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| Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 7:16 am Post subject: Re: If your pro-life, do you have to be against masterbation |
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steen wrote: TheGirlNextDoor wrote: Masturbating and then wasting ejaculate? How exactly can it be considered "killing life" when it's one cell that cannot reproduce on its own? gamete cells are alive. Killing them off is certainly "killing life."
To say ''killing life'' from a set of single gamete cells after ejaculating is an overstatement. How can you say ''killing'', the equivalent as an act ''murder'' when there's no consitution or reference saying that ejaculating gamete cells is actually killing life?
''Life'' is to be seen when you need both gamete cells from male and female that produces 46 chromosomes from Y and X during fertilisation, is what produces the definition ''life''. The start of the developmental stage to becoming a human. Gamete cells on its own does not produce life itself, therefore does not qualify to be ''life''. |
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Revenant
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AllAmericanMan wrote: I noticed the first vote on your poll was "i just come here to piss off the sensative people" or something to that effect. Your responses seemed to support my hypothesis that it was you who cast this vote. Add juvenile to your sig.
That actually wasn't me, I assume it was the man with Gandalf in his avatar, but who knows. |
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steen
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| Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 3:39 pm Post subject: Re: If your pro-life, do you have to be against masterbation |
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| Nicholas wrote: ''Life'' is to be seen when you need both gamete cells from male and female that produces 46 chromosomes from Y and X during fertilisation, is what produces the definition ''life''. The start of the developmental stage to becoming a human. Gamete cells on its own does not produce life itself, therefore does not qualify to be ''life''. Neither does a zygote Live cells are not classified according to the standard of what a "lifeform" is. |
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Plodder
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| Quote: Neither does a zygote Live cells are not classified according to the standard of what a "lifeform" is. a zygoter is a seperate entity that depends on the mother for life. that means that the mother cannot make the descision to kill it. |
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steen
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| Plodder wrote: Quote: Neither does a zygote Live cells are not classified according to the standard of what a "lifeform" is. a zygoter is a seperate entity that depends on the mother for life. that means that the mother cannot make the descision to kill it. No, it doesn't mean that. |
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Plodder
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| once again just because you say so. |
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Rubber Govt
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| Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| If masturbation is the taking of life then I have wiped out entire civilizations with a dirty sock. |
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