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galba · Joined: 23 Nov 2005 Posts: 675 Location: Texas

A Lot.
http://www.nramadness.com/nra_q.html

It surprised me.

Wolverine · Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 11171 Location: Podunk, Colorado

Quite a bit.
http://www.csgv.org/docUploads/AWB%5FPoster%2DCompassionate%5FAK47%5FBack%2Epdf

And I feel like pointing the out right lies on the propaganda reel.

Nope, they used your run of the mill post ban AR.

How would they be illegal if the ban expires?:think:

They forget to tell you those were banned in a 1989 import ban, no wonder why they cost 2K-4K.

Wow, another lie. I guess they didn't know those are a destructive device.

Another lie, S.397 merely protects gun makers and sellers from pointless law suits. It is still punishable to sell to a person who cannot legally own a gun.

What they mean to say is that it is some how the gun manufactures fault that someone got a gun and killed someone.
Is it Burger Kings fault when someones heart finally gives up?

Oh, yeah, "military style". Like the military will use a semi-auto when they can get an auto.

Gremlin · Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 7944 Location: On the Run.

Wolverine - put down the pwnage on that BS.

...and i like the 1st one... its no a bushmaster.

Apple Blossom · Joined: 26 Mar 2006 Posts: 8

This is the problem with America. People make anti-gun propaganda like this that is so blantantly false it's humourous, and stupid people actually believe it! I have owned guns for my entire life, and I haven't killed myself or anyone else. Guns are not evil, stupid people are. A person can get kille with a fork, are we going to try and ban forks?

galba · Joined: 23 Nov 2005 Posts: 675 Location: Texas

Wolverine-
Well, I guess there are a lot of lies there, too! AS for the distorting of the truth, I was thinking about the part were they said that "justice was denied" from famlies of gun crime victims, because they couldn't sue the gun makers.

PS-Using "Print-Screen" may be easier than taking a photo of the monitor.

OneZero · Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 3413

Haha whenever I see stuff like that I laugh, although in reality it's not terribly funny. These people have no idea what they're talking about, or worse, they're lying to the American people.

Onevote · Joined: 18 Sep 2004 Posts: 1688 Location: Tampa, Florida

The message is pure BS, but the quality of the piece is great and that is why it will work........................Sad.

whatsthepoint · Joined: 17 Oct 2005 Posts: 1235

Apple Blossom wrote: This is the problem with America. People make anti-gun propaganda like this that is so blantantly false it's humourous, and stupid people actually believe it! I have owned guns for my entire life, and I haven't killed myself or anyone else. Guns are not evil, stupid people are. A person can get kille with a fork, are we going to try and ban forks? Forks? Use a relevant comparison please. How about cross bows. I have seen a person get killed with a fork that was 100 yards from the person using it. I have never seen a fork accidently go off and kill someone. When was the last time a person got killed by a fork?

perdidochas · Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 15424 Location: Florida

Gremlin wrote: Wolverine - put down the pwnage on that BS.

...and i like the 1st one... its no a bushmaster.

Actually, it is a Bushmaster. Admittedly, it's not the model Bushmaster that the DC snipers used. Bushmaster, early in their company history, designed a bullpup style AR-15 "pistol", intended as, IIRC, a pilot's defense weapon. The bigger brother of that was the Bushmaster bullpup:

Bushmaster M17s Bullpup

The DC Snipers used a Bushmaster XM15, which is a plain AR-15 style.

perdidochas · Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 15424 Location: Florida

whatsthepoint wrote: Apple Blossom wrote: This is the problem with America. People make anti-gun propaganda like this that is so blantantly false it's humourous, and stupid people actually believe it! I have owned guns for my entire life, and I haven't killed myself or anyone else. Guns are not evil, stupid people are. A person can get kille with a fork, are we going to try and ban forks? Forks? Use a relevant comparison please. How about cross bows. I have seen a person get killed with a fork that was 100 yards from the person using it. I have never seen a fork accidently go off and kill someone. When was the last time a person got killed by a fork?

Well, obesity causes quite a few deaths each year.....

I've never seen a gun accidentally go off. I've seen careless handling that resulted in a gun being unexpectedly discharged (fortunately at a range aimed in a safe direction), but the gun didn't go off by itself--it was due to willful neglect of gun safety rules.

whatsthepoint · Joined: 17 Oct 2005 Posts: 1235

perdidochas wrote: whatsthepoint wrote: Apple Blossom wrote: This is the problem with America. People make anti-gun propaganda like this that is so blantantly false it's humourous, and stupid people actually believe it! I have owned guns for my entire life, and I haven't killed myself or anyone else. Guns are not evil, stupid people are. A person can get kille with a fork, are we going to try and ban forks? Forks? Use a relevant comparison please. How about cross bows. I have seen a person get killed with a fork that was 100 yards from the person using it. I have never seen a fork accidently go off and kill someone. When was the last time a person got killed by a fork?

Well, obesity causes quite a few deaths each year.....

I've never seen a gun accidentally go off. I've seen careless handling that resulted in a gun being unexpectedly discharged (fortunately at a range aimed in a safe direction), but the gun didn't go off by itself--it was due to willful neglect of gun safety rules. Obesity? Wow the comparisons are getting worse. How many times has a person used obesity to kill someone. Just because you have never seen a gun go off by itself doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I've never seen two possums having sex, but i bet it happens.

Wolverine · Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 11171 Location: Podunk, Colorado

whatsthepoint wrote: perdidochas wrote: whatsthepoint wrote: Apple Blossom wrote: This is the problem with America. People make anti-gun propaganda like this that is so blantantly false it's humourous, and stupid people actually believe it! I have owned guns for my entire life, and I haven't killed myself or anyone else. Guns are not evil, stupid people are. A person can get kille with a fork, are we going to try and ban forks? Forks? Use a relevant comparison please. How about cross bows. I have seen a person get killed with a fork that was 100 yards from the person using it. I have never seen a fork accidently go off and kill someone. When was the last time a person got killed by a fork?

Well, obesity causes quite a few deaths each year.....

I've never seen a gun accidentally go off. I've seen careless handling that resulted in a gun being unexpectedly discharged (fortunately at a range aimed in a safe direction), but the gun didn't go off by itself--it was due to willful neglect of gun safety rules. Obesity? Wow the comparisons are getting worse. How many times has a person used obesity to kill someone. Just because you have never seen a gun go off by itself doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I've never seen two possums having sex, but i bet it happens.
I never seen the 2,000,000 self-defence cases per year, but boy, I bet they happen.

whatsthepoint · Joined: 17 Oct 2005 Posts: 1235

Wolverine wrote: whatsthepoint wrote: perdidochas wrote: whatsthepoint wrote: Apple Blossom wrote: This is the problem with America. People make anti-gun propaganda like this that is so blantantly false it's humourous, and stupid people actually believe it! I have owned guns for my entire life, and I haven't killed myself or anyone else. Guns are not evil, stupid people are. A person can get kille with a fork, are we going to try and ban forks? Forks? Use a relevant comparison please. How about cross bows. I have seen a person get killed with a fork that was 100 yards from the person using it. I have never seen a fork accidently go off and kill someone. When was the last time a person got killed by a fork?

Well, obesity causes quite a few deaths each year.....

I've never seen a gun accidentally go off. I've seen careless handling that resulted in a gun being unexpectedly discharged (fortunately at a range aimed in a safe direction), but the gun didn't go off by itself--it was due to willful neglect of gun safety rules. Obesity? Wow the comparisons are getting worse. How many times has a person used obesity to kill someone. Just because you have never seen a gun go off by itself doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I've never seen two possums having sex, but i bet it happens.
I never seen the 2,000,000 self-defence cases per year, but boy, I bet they happen. And your point is?

perdidochas · Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 15424 Location: Florida

whatsthepoint wrote: perdidochas wrote: whatsthepoint wrote: Apple Blossom wrote: This is the problem with America. People make anti-gun propaganda like this that is so blantantly false it's humourous, and stupid people actually believe it! I have owned guns for my entire life, and I haven't killed myself or anyone else. Guns are not evil, stupid people are. A person can get kille with a fork, are we going to try and ban forks? Forks? Use a relevant comparison please. How about cross bows. I have seen a person get killed with a fork that was 100 yards from the person using it. I have never seen a fork accidently go off and kill someone. When was the last time a person got killed by a fork?

Well, obesity causes quite a few deaths each year.....

I've never seen a gun accidentally go off. I've seen careless handling that resulted in a gun being unexpectedly discharged (fortunately at a range aimed in a safe direction), but the gun didn't go off by itself--it was due to willful neglect of gun safety rules. Obesity? Wow the comparisons are getting worse. How many times has a person used obesity to kill someone. Just because you have never seen a gun go off by itself doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I've never seen two possums having sex, but i bet it happens.

Anti-gunners use suicide statistics to damn guns all the time.....

Also, have you heard of cause and effect. There has to be a cause for an effect. I've never heard of a gun that would accidentally discharge sitting at a table with no person touching it. The only scenario I could possibly imagine is if a cocked and loaded gun with the safety off were put on a table, and an earthquake knocked it off the table and caused it to discharge. Accidental shootings aren't because of guns inherently, but because of neglect of rules. Also, gun accidents are a very rare thing. Only 731 people died of accidental shootings in 2004 (that's less than .5 deaths per 100k), and that I'm sure included suicides labeled as accidents (as a favor to families), domestic disputes labeled as accidents, and hunting accidents.

Apple Blossom · Joined: 26 Mar 2006 Posts: 8

perdidochas wrote: whatsthepoint wrote: Apple Blossom wrote: This is the problem with America. People make anti-gun propaganda like this that is so blantantly false it's humourous, and stupid people actually believe it! I have owned guns for my entire life, and I haven't killed myself or anyone else. Guns are not evil, stupid people are. A person can get kille with a fork, are we going to try and ban forks? Forks? Use a relevant comparison please. How about cross bows. I have seen a person get killed with a fork that was 100 yards from the person using it. I have never seen a fork accidently go off and kill someone. When was the last time a person got killed by a fork?

Well, obesity causes quite a few deaths each year.....

I've never seen a gun accidentally go off. I've seen careless handling that resulted in a gun being unexpectedly discharged (fortunately at a range aimed in a safe direction), but the gun didn't go off by itself--it was due to willful neglect of gun safety rules.

Thank you! You saved me some typing, and you were nicer about it than i would have been! :-D

whatsthepoint · Joined: 17 Oct 2005 Posts: 1235

Apple Blossom wrote: perdidochas wrote: whatsthepoint wrote: Apple Blossom wrote: This is the problem with America. People make anti-gun propaganda like this that is so blantantly false it's humourous, and stupid people actually believe it! I have owned guns for my entire life, and I haven't killed myself or anyone else. Guns are not evil, stupid people are. A person can get kille with a fork, are we going to try and ban forks? Forks? Use a relevant comparison please. How about cross bows. I have seen a person get killed with a fork that was 100 yards from the person using it. I have never seen a fork accidently go off and kill someone. When was the last time a person got killed by a fork?

Well, obesity causes quite a few deaths each year.....

I've never seen a gun accidentally go off. I've seen careless handling that resulted in a gun being unexpectedly discharged (fortunately at a range aimed in a safe direction), but the gun didn't go off by itself--it was due to willful neglect of gun safety rules.

Thank you! You saved me some typing, and you were nicer about it than i would have been! :-D Well shug tell me how you can kill someone with obesity. I can tell you how i can kill someone with a gun.

mattman42 · Joined: 26 Apr 2005 Posts: 661 Location: Maine

Again with the "shug" thing. That's really stupid.

whatsthepoint · Joined: 17 Oct 2005 Posts: 1235

mattman42 wrote: Again with the "shug" thing. That's really stupid. Thanks shug.

mattman42 · Joined: 26 Apr 2005 Posts: 661 Location: Maine

whatsthepoint wrote: mattman42 wrote: Again with the "shug" thing. That's really stupid. Thanks shug.

Your welcome. Just don't expect anyone to take you seriously.

whatsthepoint · Joined: 17 Oct 2005 Posts: 1235

mattman42 wrote: whatsthepoint wrote: mattman42 wrote: Again with the "shug" thing. That's really stupid. Thanks shug.

Your welcome. Just don't expect anyone to take you seriously. That hurts. Ever since the time i was born i always dreamed of people on a forum taking me seriously. I bet you one thing , if you stand on the other side of the ring or octagon from me. You will take me seriously.