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perdidochas · Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 15424 Location: Florida

George W Bush wrote: Demonic Spoon wrote: http://www.fishinghurts.com/pdfs/DaddyKillsAnimals.pdf

http://www.furisdead.com/pdfs/mommykills.pdf

Both of those are created by PETA. You don't see something f***ing wrong with that?

No.
As I said in another thread about this propaganda, you are a BAD parent if you think PETA propaganda will do anything more than make your child question the validity of the KILL factor.
Yes, it is extreme. But its not WRONG. The fish, in the first case, IS being killed. Are you of the persuasion that children should be lied to? If so, continue telling them Santa Clause is real or that theres a freaking bunny that hops around in april handing out candy. Whatever.
I respect PETA's reality check.
You could always settle for McDonalds false premiss propoganda with their Hamburger Garden cartoons (depicting hamburgers as growing in gardens). :roll:

My kids know that chicken comes from chickens, beef from cow, pork from pigs, etc. They fish, and eat the fish they catch (after watching Dad or Grandad clean it (age 5 and 8 at this point). My kids won't be duped by PETA propaganda, because they know the truth. They know I'm not hiding anything.

TNBiologist · Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 962 Location: Tennessee

George W Bush wrote:
No. I state that a parent that believes PETA CAN manipulate their children with cartoons, into hating them - is a bad parent. if your kid will hate you with such propaganda, its not a simple matter of PETA making them - its something else. YOU are a bad parent. PETA is not at fault. Your kid easily hates you? Get counseling. Its not PETA's doing.

This point is reflected on the notion that these ads do anything more than relate the reality that animals are killed for their flesh.

If you think that telling a child that their father likes to kill and that they should hid their pets from him is just explaining to kids that meat comes from animal flesh then you need to go back and reread some of the trash PETA puts out.

Wolverine · Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 11171 Location: Podunk, Colorado

TNBiologist wrote: George W Bush wrote: Wolverine wrote: Didn't they kill a bunch of animsl themselvs? Don't they also destroy property when they toss dye on fur coats?

no. and no.

Here are articles talking about PETA killing animals they have taken in:
http://www.petakillsanimals.com/
http://freetoagoodhomemovie.com/2005/06/peta-kills-animals.html

Here is PETA itself telling people to through tomoatoes at people wearing fur, although thier little game at the bottom is funny:
http://www.peta.org/feat/petatomato/
Thanks, thats the link I was looking for. :)

PETA has killed animals. Whats that word thats starts with an h? Hypo.... .hippo... hypocrites, thats it.
CLICK HERE -> http://www.petakillsanimals.com/ <-CLICK HERE

forthegreatergood · Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 366

TNBiologist wrote: George W Bush wrote:
No. I state that a parent that believes PETA CAN manipulate their children with cartoons, into hating them - is a bad parent. if your kid will hate you with such propaganda, its not a simple matter of PETA making them - its something else. YOU are a bad parent. PETA is not at fault. Your kid easily hates you? Get counseling. Its not PETA's doing.

This point is reflected on the notion that these ads do anything more than relate the reality that animals are killed for their flesh.

If you think that telling a child that their father likes to kill and that they should hid their pets from him is just explaining to kids that meat comes from animal flesh then you need to go back and reread some of the trash PETA puts out.

So is this better to have a nice loving family? (All pictures freely available courtesy of Google Images)

George W Bush · Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:06 pm Post subject:

perdidochas wrote: George W Bush wrote: Demonic Spoon wrote: http://www.fishinghurts.com/pdfs/DaddyKillsAnimals.pdf

http://www.furisdead.com/pdfs/mommykills.pdf

Both of those are created by PETA. You don't see something f***ing wrong with that?

No.
As I said in another thread about this propaganda, you are a BAD parent if you think PETA propaganda will do anything more than make your child question the validity of the KILL factor.
Yes, it is extreme. But its not WRONG. The fish, in the first case, IS being killed. Are you of the persuasion that children should be lied to? If so, continue telling them Santa Clause is real or that theres a freaking bunny that hops around in april handing out candy. Whatever.
I respect PETA's reality check.
You could always settle for McDonalds false premiss propoganda with their Hamburger Garden cartoons (depicting hamburgers as growing in gardens). :roll:

My kids know that chicken comes from chickens, beef from cow, pork from pigs, etc. They fish, and eat the fish they catch (after watching Dad or Grandad clean it (age 5 and 8 at this point). My kids won't be duped by PETA propaganda, because they know the truth. They know I'm not hiding anything.

Then youve got nothing to worry about, unless you let them believe cartoons are real.
So, in this FREE AMERICA, with the right to free speech, you really have no ammo to complain. PETA is not changing your kids, and you are doing nothing but WHINING to whine.

George W Bush · Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:08 pm Post subject:

forthegreatergood wrote: TNBiologist wrote: George W Bush wrote:
No. I state that a parent that believes PETA CAN manipulate their children with cartoons, into hating them - is a bad parent. if your kid will hate you with such propaganda, its not a simple matter of PETA making them - its something else. YOU are a bad parent. PETA is not at fault. Your kid easily hates you? Get counseling. Its not PETA's doing.

This point is reflected on the notion that these ads do anything more than relate the reality that animals are killed for their flesh.

If you think that telling a child that their father likes to kill and that they should hid their pets from him is just explaining to kids that meat comes from animal flesh then you need to go back and reread some of the trash PETA puts out.

So is this better to have a nice loving family? (All pictures freely available courtesy of Google Images)

I see a mommy and daddy killing in those pictures.
Seems PETA is not wrong in this case.
Its ashame we gotta post such obvious things to get these PETA-trashers to understand.

Winchester · Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 7816 Location: Montana

[quote="George W Bush"] forthegreatergood wrote: TNBiologist wrote: George W Bush wrote:
No. I state that a parent that believes PETA CAN manipulate their children with cartoons, into hating them - is a bad parent. if your kid will hate you with such propaganda, its not a simple matter of PETA making them - its something else. YOU are a bad parent. PETA is not at fault. Your kid easily hates you? Get counseling. Its not PETA's doing.

This point is reflected on the notion that these ads do anything more than relate the reality that animals are killed for their flesh.

If you think that telling a child that their father likes to kill and that they should hid their pets from him is just explaining to kids that meat comes from animal flesh then you need to go back and reread some of the trash PETA puts out.

So is this better to have a nice loving family? (All pictures freely available courtesy of Google Images)

I see a mommy and daddy killing in those pictures.
Seems PETA is not wrong in this case.
Its ashame we gotta post such obvious things to get these PETA-trashers to understand.

Well this Daddy likes to kill, but see the problem is PETA likes to target young impressionable kids and misslead them by equating Daddy killing deer and ducks for food with Daddy is evil and is going to kill your pet that you love.

Problem with this method is once kids gain a little age and reasoning they will understand that they have been lied to by PETA and will discount everything PETA has ever tried to impart whether valid or not.

forthegreatergood · Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 366

[quote="Winchester"] George W Bush wrote: TNBiologist wrote: George W Bush wrote:
No. I state that a parent that believes PETA CAN manipulate their children with cartoons, into hating them - is a bad parent. if your kid will hate you with such propaganda, its not a simple matter of PETA making them - its something else. YOU are a bad parent. PETA is not at fault. Your kid easily hates you? Get counseling. Its not PETA's doing.

This point is reflected on the notion that these ads do anything more than relate the reality that animals are killed for their flesh.

If you think that telling a child that their father likes to kill and that they should hid their pets from him is just explaining to kids that meat comes from animal flesh then you need to go back and reread some of the trash PETA puts out.

So is this better to have a nice loving family? (All pictures freely available courtesy of Google Images)

I see a mommy and daddy killing in those pictures.
Seems PETA is not wrong in this case.
Its ashame we gotta post such obvious things to get these PETA-trashers to understand.

Quote: Well this Daddy likes to kill, but see the problem is PETA likes to target young impressionable kids and misslead them by equating Daddy killing deer and ducks for food with Daddy is evil and is going to kill your pet that you love.

***Oh, So according to you, you get to pick and choose which creatures you can love and which not to. Do you use correct logic to do this or are you a Why can't the kids love the deer and ducks. What about the cartoons kids watch, like Bambi(deer) and Daffy Duck(a duck), enjoying them and watching them and loving them. And then you teach them to kill? Is that GOOD of evil. And then do you go to church and preach THOU SHALL NOT KILL and go to CHURCH's CHICKEN?

Quote: Problem with this method is once kids gain a little age and reasoning they will understand that they have been lied to by PETA and will discount everything PETA has ever tried to impart whether valid or not.

***Like Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny?

mathurin · Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:52 pm Post subject:

[quote="forthegreatergood"] Winchester wrote: George W Bush wrote: TNBiologist wrote: George W Bush wrote:
No. I state that a parent that believes PETA CAN manipulate their children with cartoons, into hating them - is a bad parent. if your kid will hate you with such propaganda, its not a simple matter of PETA making them - its something else. YOU are a bad parent. PETA is not at fault. Your kid easily hates you? Get counseling. Its not PETA's doing.

This point is reflected on the notion that these ads do anything more than relate the reality that animals are killed for their flesh.

If you think that telling a child that their father likes to kill and that they should hid their pets from him is just explaining to kids that meat comes from animal flesh then you need to go back and reread some of the trash PETA puts out.

So is this better to have a nice loving family? (All pictures freely available courtesy of Google Images)

I see a mommy and daddy killing in those pictures.
Seems PETA is not wrong in this case.
Its ashame we gotta post such obvious things to get these PETA-trashers to understand.

Quote: Well this Daddy likes to kill, but see the problem is PETA likes to target young impressionable kids and misslead them by equating Daddy killing deer and ducks for food with Daddy is evil and is going to kill your pet that you love.

***Oh, So according to you, you get to pick and choose which creatures you can love and which not to. Do you use correct logic to do this or are you a Why can't the kids love the deer and ducks. What about the cartoons kids watch, like Bambi(deer) and Daffy Duck(a duck), enjoying them and watching them and loving them. And then you teach them to kill? Is that GOOD of evil. And then do you go to church and preach THOU SHALL NOT KILL and go to CHURCH's CHICKEN?

children grow up and realize that cartoons are a fabrication made for humor, they have no bearing on real life

When I was a child I spoke as a child I understood as a child I thought as a child; but when I became a man I put away childish things

the commandment actually says "thou shalt not commit murder"
much different

forthegreatergood wrote:
Winchester wrote:
Problem with this method is once kids gain a little age and reasoning they will understand that they have been lied to by PETA and will discount everything PETA has ever tried to impart whether valid or not.

***Like Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny?

the kids never see santa claus and the easter bunny, they see their parents, know they exist, and after what PETA has said is proven to be false they will believe little they have to say
though some kids might actually be brainwashed enough

thintheherd · Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:56 pm Post subject:

[quote="forthegreatergood"] Winchester wrote: George W Bush wrote: TNBiologist wrote: George W Bush wrote:
No. I state that a parent that believes PETA CAN manipulate their children with cartoons, into hating them - is a bad parent. if your kid will hate you with such propaganda, its not a simple matter of PETA making them - its something else. YOU are a bad parent. PETA is not at fault. Your kid easily hates you? Get counseling. Its not PETA's doing.

This point is reflected on the notion that these ads do anything more than relate the reality that animals are killed for their flesh.

If you think that telling a child that their father likes to kill and that they should hid their pets from him is just explaining to kids that meat comes from animal flesh then you need to go back and reread some of the trash PETA puts out.

So is this better to have a nice loving family? (All pictures freely available courtesy of Google Images)

I see a mommy and daddy killing in those pictures.
Seems PETA is not wrong in this case.
Its ashame we gotta post such obvious things to get these PETA-trashers to understand.

Quote: Well this Daddy likes to kill, but see the problem is PETA likes to target young impressionable kids and misslead them by equating Daddy killing deer and ducks for food with Daddy is evil and is going to kill your pet that you love.

***Oh, So according to you, you get to pick and choose which creatures you can love and which not to. Do you use correct logic to do this or are you a Why can't the kids love the deer and ducks. What about the cartoons kids watch, like Bambi(deer) and Daffy Duck(a duck), enjoying them and watching them and loving them. And then you teach them to kill? Is that GOOD of evil. And then do you go to church and preach THOU SHALL NOT KILL and go to CHURCH's CHICKEN?

Quote: Problem with this method is once kids gain a little age and reasoning they will understand that they have been lied to by PETA and will discount everything PETA has ever tried to impart whether valid or not.

***Like Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny?
Yes we do get to choose what creatures to consume and which to make pets out of. No different than the thousands of years the native Indians or Eskimos did for that matter.

Listen, attaching human characteristics and mannerisms to animals is a rather modern sickness and the only reason you people exist in the first place. Let me be among those that have already attempted to enlighten you- Bambi cannot talk and Donald didn't wear pants.

Now... Feel free to live with your ill-conceived choices and refrain from consuming animals if you wish but leave us out of it and for Pete's sake, stop trying to indoctrinate our children into your fantasy world.

I'm sure you'd be whining just as loud had your local Hitler Youth org targeted your children in the same way so if I were you, I think I'd try to remember the golden rule.

Robin Hood · Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Posts: 3295

Where does Peta animal loving stop? Does it include rats? What about insects? Or even bacteria?

Personally I think we should make a lion den and ask Peta to go in and see if they can conclude a peace treaty, or perhaps we should tax squirrels - after all if you can tax humans then why not animals?

forthegreatergood · Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 366

forthegreatergood wrote: Winchester wrote: George W Bush wrote: TNBiologist wrote: George W Bush wrote:
No. I state that a parent that believes PETA CAN manipulate their children with cartoons, into hating them - is a bad parent. if your kid will hate you with such propaganda, its not a simple matter of PETA making them - its something else. YOU are a bad parent. PETA is not at fault. Your kid easily hates you? Get counseling. Its not PETA's doing.

This point is reflected on the notion that these ads do anything more than relate the reality that animals are killed for their flesh.

If you think that telling a child that their father likes to kill and that they should hid their pets from him is just explaining to kids that meat comes from animal flesh then you need to go back and reread some of the trash PETA puts out.

So is this better to have a nice loving family? (All pictures freely available courtesy of Google Images)

I see a mommy and daddy killing in those pictures.
Seems PETA is not wrong in this case.
Its ashame we gotta post such obvious things to get these PETA-trashers to understand.

Quote: Well this Daddy likes to kill, but see the problem is PETA likes to target young impressionable kids and misslead them by equating Daddy killing deer and ducks for food with Daddy is evil and is going to kill your pet that you love.

***Oh, So according to you, you get to pick and choose which creatures you can love and which not to. Do you use correct logic to do this or are you a Why can't the kids love the deer and ducks. What about the cartoons kids watch, like Bambi(deer) and Daffy Duck(a duck), enjoying them and watching them and loving them. And then you teach them to kill? Is that GOOD of evil. And then do you go to church and preach THOU SHALL NOT KILL and go to CHURCH's CHICKEN?

Quote: Problem with this method is once kids gain a little age and reasoning they will understand that they have been lied to by PETA and will discount everything PETA has ever tried to impart whether valid or not.

***Like Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny?
Yes we do get to choose what creatures to consume and which to make pets out of. No different than the thousands of years the native Indians or Eskimos did for that matter.

Listen, attaching human characteristics and mannerisms to animals is a rather modern sickness and the only reason you people exist in the first place. Let me be among those that have already attempted to enlighten you- Bambi cannot talk and Donald didn't wear pants.
Now... Feel free to live with your ill-conceived choices

***That would more likely describe you since you contribute to greater harm, and those choices could be considered ill-conceived.

Quote: and refrain from consuming animals if you wish but leave us out of it

*** Leave you out of it? Why not leave other creature life forms out of it.

Quote: and for Pete's sake, stop trying to indoctrinate our children into your fantasy world.

*** Or have you been indoctrinated into thinking killing creatures is acceptable. These fellow creatures suffer at your expense.

Quote: I'm sure you'd be whining just as loud had your local Hitler Youth org targeted your children in the same way so if I were you, I think I'd try to remember the golden rule.

***I want to promote GOOD things.

[/quote]

TNBiologist · Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 962 Location: Tennessee

George W Bush wrote: forthegreatergood wrote: TNBiologist wrote: George W Bush wrote:
No. I state that a parent that believes PETA CAN manipulate their children with cartoons, into hating them - is a bad parent. if your kid will hate you with such propaganda, its not a simple matter of PETA making them - its something else. YOU are a bad parent. PETA is not at fault. Your kid easily hates you? Get counseling. Its not PETA's doing.

This point is reflected on the notion that these ads do anything more than relate the reality that animals are killed for their flesh.

If you think that telling a child that their father likes to kill and that they should hid their pets from him is just explaining to kids that meat comes from animal flesh then you need to go back and reread some of the trash PETA puts out.

So is this better to have a nice loving family? (All pictures freely available courtesy of Google Images)

I see a mommy and daddy killing in those pictures.
Seems PETA is not wrong in this case.
Its ashame we gotta post such obvious things to get these PETA-trashers to understand.

Yes, parents are killing in those pictures and are exposing their children to one of the harsh realities of life, most people eat meat and meat comes from animals. But what does someone hunting wild animals and getting thier children involved have to do with the trash PETA spouts able daddy killing the family pet dog? Last time I checked most modern societies did not eat their pets. PETA pushing their twisted beliefs on children would be the same as the KKK setting up at a school and telling children about about their racist hate without the parents knowing about it. Yes, the parent can run damage control and talk to the children and explain it was just a bunch of loons on the fringe of society but the children, who are highly impressionable, have already heard the message.

thintheherd · Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:15 am Post subject:

forthegreatergood wrote: forthegreatergood wrote:
Yes we do get to choose what creatures to consume and which to make pets out of. No different than the thousands of years the native Indians or Eskimos did for that matter.

Listen, attaching human characteristics and mannerisms to animals is a rather modern sickness and the only reason you people exist in the first place. Let me be among those that have already attempted to enlighten you- Bambi cannot talk and Donald didn't wear pants.
Now... Feel free to live with your ill-conceived choices

***That would more likely describe you since you contribute to greater harm, and those choices could be considered ill-conceived.

Quote: and refrain from consuming animals if you wish but leave us out of it

*** Leave you out of it? Why not leave other creature life forms out of it.

Quote: and for Pete's sake, stop trying to indoctrinate our children into your fantasy world.

*** Or have you been indoctrinated into thinking killing creatures is acceptable. These fellow creatures suffer at your expense.

Quote: I'm sure you'd be whining just as loud had your local Hitler Youth org targeted your children in the same way so if I were you, I think I'd try to remember the golden rule.

***I want to promote GOOD things.

And I would say, on all counts, that you are wrong.

You and yours at PeTA are so hypocritical and misguided in your efforts it might be laughable if it weren't that so many get hurt in the process.

There is a middle ground you know. Listed are just a few areas that they should be concentrating that I'm sure most people would agree and support:

- Blatant cruelty to animals;
-- starving
-- beating
-- unhealthy farming/overcrowding

A short list of the types of treatment they should stay out of directly benefit animals or mankind follows:

- Hunting/fishing
- Large scale humane farming/harvesting
- The utilization of the entire animal post harvest (fur, leather, glue, -etc)
- Zoos

There are more points to be listed for each side I'm sure (like testing) but you see it's all about drawing the line. Unfortunately the PeTA type has chosen to take an extremists view. They have chosen to paint a human face on all animals that elicits equal compassion rather than rely on common sense based on millions of years of evolution.

Because of that extremism and unwillingness to compromise this is a battle that cannot be won. So. like I said before, take a step down on the food chain ladder if you want to but leave those, who have the sense to stay and do things right, alone.

perdidochas · Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 15424 Location: Florida

George W Bush wrote: perdidochas wrote: George W Bush wrote: Demonic Spoon wrote: http://www.fishinghurts.com/pdfs/DaddyKillsAnimals.pdf

http://www.furisdead.com/pdfs/mommykills.pdf

Both of those are created by PETA. You don't see something f***ing wrong with that?

No.
As I said in another thread about this propaganda, you are a BAD parent if you think PETA propaganda will do anything more than make your child question the validity of the KILL factor.
Yes, it is extreme. But its not WRONG. The fish, in the first case, IS being killed. Are you of the persuasion that children should be lied to? If so, continue telling them Santa Clause is real or that theres a freaking bunny that hops around in april handing out candy. Whatever.
I respect PETA's reality check.
You could always settle for McDonalds false premiss propoganda with their Hamburger Garden cartoons (depicting hamburgers as growing in gardens). :roll:

My kids know that chicken comes from chickens, beef from cow, pork from pigs, etc. They fish, and eat the fish they catch (after watching Dad or Grandad clean it (age 5 and 8 at this point). My kids won't be duped by PETA propaganda, because they know the truth. They know I'm not hiding anything.

Then youve got nothing to worry about, unless you let them believe cartoons are real.
So, in this FREE AMERICA, with the right to free speech, you really have no ammo to complain. PETA is not changing your kids, and you are doing nothing but WHINING to whine.

Where am I whining? I'm just stating that I'm not concerned about it.

perdidochas · Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 15424 Location: Florida

forthegreatergood wrote: ***Oh, So according to you, you get to pick and choose which creatures you can love and which not to. Do you use correct logic to do this or are you a Why can't the kids love the deer and ducks. What about the cartoons kids watch, like Bambi(deer) and Daffy Duck(a duck), enjoying them and watching them and loving them. And then you teach them to kill? Is that GOOD of evil. And then do you go to church and preach THOU SHALL NOT KILL and go to CHURCH's CHICKEN?

1) I do love deer and ducks. I would rather they get killed humanely by a hunter, than die of starvation or by being hit by a car. I know of few hunters who do not truly love wildlife and nature. If you don't love wildlife and nature, you don't hunt, you stay inside and play videogames or watch football.
2) Bambi is an inaccurate cartoon. Deer never know their fathers, etc.
3) God has nothing against eating meat or killing animals. Thou shalt not kill, should properly be "thou shalt not murder" which is killing other humans unjustifiably.

Wolverine · Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 11171 Location: Podunk, Colorado

Quote: ***Oh, So according to you, you get to pick and choose which creatures you can love and which not to. Pretty much, I dislike every other animal except one of our dogs. I like RTS over FPS, I like semi-auto over bolt actions, I like overcast over sunny days, I like snow over rain, boy, I'm just pickin' and choosing like a mad man.

Quote: Do you use correct logic to do this or are you a Why can't the kids love the deer and ducks. What about the cartoons kids watch, like Bambi(deer) and Daffy Duck(a duck), enjoying them and watching them and loving them.
Then kids grow up and want to go hunting.

Quote: And then you teach them to kill? Is that GOOD of evil. And then do you go to church and preach
They want to.

Quote: THOU SHALL NOT KILL and go to CHURCH's CHICKEN?
If I remember correctly the correct translation is thou shall not murder, murder is the killing of another human, you cannot murder an animal.
You may want to read the Bible a little more before you go preaching it, you may recall the fact that animals are nothing compared to the well being of man.
Or read Genesis - The Beginning by someone I can't remember.

thintheherd · Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:05 am Post subject:

So what would Jesus do? Eat fish of course! :lol:

Winchester · Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 7816 Location: Montana

forthegreatergood wrote: George W Bush wrote: TNBiologist wrote: George W Bush wrote:
No. I state that a parent that believes PETA CAN manipulate their children with cartoons, into hating them - is a bad parent. if your kid will hate you with such propaganda, its not a simple matter of PETA making them - its something else. YOU are a bad parent. PETA is not at fault. Your kid easily hates you? Get counseling. Its not PETA's doing.

This point is reflected on the notion that these ads do anything more than relate the reality that animals are killed for their flesh.

If you think that telling a child that their father likes to kill and that they should hid their pets from him is just explaining to kids that meat comes from animal flesh then you need to go back and reread some of the trash PETA puts out.

So is this better to have a nice loving family? (All pictures freely available courtesy of Google Images)

I see a mommy and daddy killing in those pictures.
Seems PETA is not wrong in this case.
Its ashame we gotta post such obvious things to get these PETA-trashers to understand.

Winchester wrote: Well this Daddy likes to kill, but see the problem is PETA likes to target young impressionable kids and misslead them by equating Daddy killing deer and ducks for food with Daddy is evil and is going to kill your pet that you love.

***Oh, So according to you, you get to pick and choose which creatures you can love and which not to. Do you use correct logic to do this or are you a Why can't the kids love the deer and ducks. What about the cartoons kids watch, like Bambi(deer) and Daffy Duck(a duck), enjoying them and watching them and loving them. And then you teach them to kill? Is that GOOD of evil. And then do you go to church and preach THOU SHALL NOT KILL and go to CHURCH's CHICKEN?

Winchester wrote: Problem with this method is once kids gain a little age and reasoning they will understand that they have been lied to by PETA and will discount everything PETA has ever tried to impart whether valid or not.

***Like Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny?

First let's get the quotes fixed.

Second, of course we can pick and choose which creatures we love, which creatures we have as pets, and which creatures we want to kill and eat. They are not human, they're animals and most of them taste good.

Third, cartoons are not alive, they're animated drawings given human characteristics and voices by humans. You can't kill them. Lord knows how many times Elmer tried to kill Daffy. My guess is you grew up during the time the PC police edited the violence out of Bugs & Daffy cartoons and didn't see Daffy getting shot in the face numerous times by Elmer.

Fourth, I don't think anyone ever tried to turn kids against their parents and call them killers because of Santa.

Robin Hood · Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Posts: 3295

Quote: 1) I do love deer and ducks. I would rather they get killed humanely by a hunter, than die of starvation or by being hit by a car. I know of few hunters who do not truly love wildlife and nature. If you don't love wildlife and nature, you don't hunt, you stay inside and play videogames or watch football.

Awesome post. Human's are natural preators, and acting like one obviously isn't some crime against nature. The ties between the land and the frequent hunters I know are far stronger than that between the urbanite weekend eco-warriors I also know.