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George W Bush · Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 1:16 pm Post subject: I Like PETA

Seeing as there is a festering swarm of vulgar hate against PETA, I thought ide post this thread as a reminder that such intoxicating hate against this great organization is impotent.
By the way, I love that PETA is non-profit. That means tax payers foot the bill for some of their advertising.
GO PETA!! www.peta.org

George W Bush · Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 1:18 pm Post subject:

Just to further validate this thread, heres PETAs ABOUT statement. Read it and weep animal-abusers:

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), with more than a million members and supporters, is the largest animal rights organization in the world. Founded in 1980, PETA is dedicated to establishing and protecting the rights of all animals. PETA operates under the simple principle that animals are not ours to eat, wear, experiment on, or use for entertainment.

PETA focuses its attention on the four areas in which the largest numbers of animals suffer the most intensely for the longest periods of time: on factory farms, in laboratories, in the clothing trade, and in the entertainment industry. We also work on a variety of other issues, including the cruel killing of beavers, birds and other "pests," and the abuse of backyard dogs.

PETA works through public education, cruelty investigations, research, animal rescue, legislation, special events, celebrity involvement, and protest campaigns

Wolverine · Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 10980 Location: Podunk, Colorado

Didn't they kill a bunch of animsl themselvs? Don't they also destroy property when they toss dye on fur coats?

George W Bush · Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 8:48 pm Post subject:

Wolverine wrote: Didn't they kill a bunch of animsl themselvs? Don't they also destroy property when they toss dye on fur coats?

no. and no.

Rankor and Pissing · Joined: 04 Mar 2006 Posts: 10208

You know.. I gotta say, PETA affects my life not at all. I go to the store and can buy any animal products I want. The more exotic stuff I need to go to an import store.

Rabbit? Got a shotgun and hunting license for that.

PETA is a headline - they affect no production, no sale nor do they effect me personally. Personally, I don't think of PETA or their business status as a non-profit. Only for the last 2 minutes have I thought of PETA while writing this and now I'm hungry and I think I'll heat up some leftover chicken and rice.

The only thing that mildly interested me was a portion of the mission statement about working on the cruel killing of beaver. I agree... we all need more beaver in our lives. GO PETA - SAVE THAT BEAVER!!!

thefranzkafkafront · Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 9:32 pm Post subject:

I wonder if PETA members like using antibiotics, antivirals, or surigical procedures.

thintheherd · Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:28 pm Post subject:

George W Bush wrote: Just to further validate this thread, heres PETAs ABOUT statement. Read it and weep animal-abusers:

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), with more than a million members and supporters, is the largest animal rights organization in the world. Founded in 1980, PETA is dedicated to establishing and protecting the rights of all animals. PETA operates under the simple principle that animals are not ours to eat, wear, experiment on, or use for entertainment.

PETA focuses its attention on the four areas in which the largest numbers of animals suffer the most intensely for the longest periods of time: on factory farms, in laboratories, in the clothing trade, and in the entertainment industry. We also work on a variety of other issues, including the cruel killing of beavers, birds and other "pests," and the abuse of backyard dogs.

PETA works through public education, cruelty investigations, research, animal rescue, legislation, special events, celebrity involvement, and protest campaigns
Well, I'm not weeping... My math has their 'supporters' at less than 0.5% of the U.S. population, and that is if all of their members were from the U.S. which they would not claim as to deflate their base.

Not even a good minority in the grand scheme of things. :roll:

Simply fanatic extremists that attempt to grab headlines... nothing more to see here.

Wolverine · Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 10980 Location: Podunk, Colorado

George W Bush wrote:

no. Actually yeah. Let me get the link to you.

Aspiring Shepherd · Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 12:35 am Post subject:

Although I personally hate the thought of animals suffering, I do appreciate medical breakthroughs and other useful solutions to problems that animal testing has brought us. PETA may go a bit too fat but they are not all crazy, it is nice to know that someone cares about more than just human life. I don't like how most people think that humans are the only animals that matter or that these animals don't feel pain. It is a cold and cruel world and no matter what you do someone or something is gonna be hurting.

Canadian_Patriot · Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 323

"no. and no." :lol:

yes and yes :-D

Ek0nomik · Joined: 17 Jul 2005 Posts: 2065 Location: La Fleur

Aspiring Shepherd wrote: Although I personally hate the thought of animals suffering, I do appreciate medical breakthroughs and other useful solutions to problems that animal testing has brought us. PETA may go a bit too fat but they are not all crazy, it is nice to know that someone cares about more than just human life. I don't like how most people think that humans are the only animals that matter or that these animals don't feel pain. It is a cold and cruel world and no matter what you do someone or something is gonna be hurting.

Agreed.

Demonic Spoon · Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 6939 Location: Ohio

http://www.fishinghurts.com/pdfs/DaddyKillsAnimals.pdf

http://www.furisdead.com/pdfs/mommykills.pdf

Both of those are created by PETA. You don't see something f***ing wrong with that?

George W Bush · Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 6:43 pm Post subject:

Demonic Spoon wrote: http://www.fishinghurts.com/pdfs/DaddyKillsAnimals.pdf

http://www.furisdead.com/pdfs/mommykills.pdf

Both of those are created by PETA. You don't see something f***ing wrong with that?

No.
As I said in another thread about this propaganda, you are a BAD parent if you think PETA propaganda will do anything more than make your child question the validity of the KILL factor.
Yes, it is extreme. But its not WRONG. The fish, in the first case, IS being killed. Are you of the persuasion that children should be lied to? If so, continue telling them Santa Clause is real or that theres a freaking bunny that hops around in april handing out candy. Whatever.
I respect PETA's reality check.
You could always settle for McDonalds false premiss propoganda with their Hamburger Garden cartoons (depicting hamburgers as growing in gardens). :roll:

thintheherd · Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 10:41 pm Post subject:

George W Bush wrote: Demonic Spoon wrote: http://www.fishinghurts.com/pdfs/DaddyKillsAnimals.pdf

http://www.furisdead.com/pdfs/mommykills.pdf

Both of those are created by PETA. You don't see something f***ing wrong with that?

No.
As I said in another thread about this propaganda, you are a BAD parent if you think PETA propaganda will do anything more than make your child question the validity of the KILL factor.
Yes, it is extreme. But its not WRONG. The fish, in the first case, IS being killed. Are you of the persuasion that children should be lied to? If so, continue telling them Santa Clause is real or that theres a freaking bunny that hops around in april handing out candy. Whatever.
I respect PETA's reality check.
You could always settle for McDonalds false premiss propoganda with their Hamburger Garden cartoons (depicting hamburgers as growing in gardens). :roll:
Those soooo makes my point. And as to the 'children to be lied to' argument? I assert that both are lying to children.

The real problem here is that one uses abject fear and blatantly makes villains of a child's parents only to further an agenda not based on fact.

Sickening brainwashing tactics if you ask me.

TheGirlNextDoor · Joined: 08 Jul 2004 Posts: 22608

PETA and "reality check" do not belong in the same sentence.

You state that parents who dislike PETAs methods of targeting children and speak out against such, are "BAD" parents. Well, I've got news for you - parents who would be NOT concerned with the method in which PETA chooses to spread their message by TARGETING children would be "BAD" parents.

It is a parents duty to explain life and death cycles to their children - and I for one - do not take my duty as a parent, lightly.

Now, have I ever had a personal run-in with PETA? Nope, never have. Would I get in someone's face from PETA who was trying to jab a pamphlet in my child's face when it was UNwelcomed? You betcha.

thintheherd · Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 11:33 pm Post subject:

TheGirlNextDoor wrote: PETA and "reality check" do not belong in the same sentence.

You state that parents who dislike PETAs methods of targeting children and speak out against such, are "BAD" parents. Well, I've got news for you - parents who would be NOT concerned with the method in which PETA chooses to spread their message by TARGETING children would be "BAD" parents.

It is a parents duty to explain life and death cycles to their children - and I for one - do not take my duty as a parent, lightly.

Now, have I ever had a personal run-in with PETA? Nope, never have. Would I get in someone's face from PETA who was trying to jab a pamphlet in my child's face when it was UNwelcomed? You betcha.
:clap: :clap:

Demonic Spoon · Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 6939 Location: Ohio

Quote:

No.
As I said in another thread about this propaganda, you are a BAD parent if you think PETA propaganda will do anything more than make your child question the validity of the KILL factor.
Yes, it is extreme. But its not WRONG. The fish, in the first case, IS being killed. Are you of the persuasion that children should be lied to? If so, continue telling them Santa Clause is real or that theres a freaking bunny that hops around in april handing out candy. Whatever.
I respect PETA's reality check.
You could always settle for McDonalds false premiss propoganda with their Hamburger Garden cartoons (depicting hamburgers as growing in gardens).

..Reality check? Are you f***ing serious?

That pamphlet tells kids to hide their pets because then their father would kill them. REALITY my ass.

Wolverine · Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 10980 Location: Podunk, Colorado

George W Bush wrote:

No.
As I said in another thread about this propaganda, you are a BAD parent if you think PETA propaganda will do anything more than make your child question the validity of the KILL factor.
I should get the NRA to hand out comics
"Ask your daddy why he is a hateful gun hating commie....

...... ask your hateful commie daddy why he supports the slaughter of 140,000,000 innocent Soviet citizens...."

Quote: Yes, it is extreme. But its not WRONG. The fish, in the first case, IS being killed. Are you of the persuasion that children should be lied to? If so, continue telling them Santa Clause is real or that theres a freaking bunny that hops around in april handing out candy. Whatever.
I love tuna, is there something wrong with that?

TNBiologist · Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 962 Location: Tennessee

George W Bush wrote: Wolverine wrote: Didn't they kill a bunch of animsl themselvs? Don't they also destroy property when they toss dye on fur coats?

no. and no.

Here are articles talking about PETA killing animals they have taken in:
http://www.petakillsanimals.com/
http://freetoagoodhomemovie.com/2005/06/peta-kills-animals.html

Here is PETA itself telling people to through tomoatoes at people wearing fur, although thier little game at the bottom is funny:
http://www.peta.org/feat/petatomato/

George W Bush · Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:55 pm Post subject:

TheGirlNextDoor wrote: PETA and "reality check" do not belong in the same sentence.

You state that parents who dislike PETAs methods of targeting children and speak out against such, are "BAD" parents. Well, I've got news for you - parents who would be NOT concerned with the method in which PETA chooses to spread their message by TARGETING children would be "BAD" parents.

It is a parents duty to explain life and death cycles to their children - and I for one - do not take my duty as a parent, lightly.

Now, have I ever had a personal run-in with PETA? Nope, never have. Would I get in someone's face from PETA who was trying to jab a pamphlet in my child's face when it was UNwelcomed? You betcha.

No. I state that a parent that believes PETA CAN manipulate their children with cartoons, into hating them - is a bad parent. if your kid will hate you with such propaganda, its not a simple matter of PETA making them - its something else. YOU are a bad parent. PETA is not at fault. Your kid easily hates you? Get counseling. Its not PETA's doing.

This point is reflected on the notion that these ads do anything more than relate the reality that animals are killed for their flesh.