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connermt · Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 1526 Location: CMH OHIO

After a month or 2 of reading through the forums, I have found it interesting that I have found 2 basic 'camps' that these 'Forum Christians' seem to fall into:
1) The Meek. These people seem to be loving & caring, who try to help others understand their POV. These people seem to be of a meek nature & delights in discussing their beliefs while not badgering other's for their beliefs
2) The Angry. These Christians seem to feel the need to instantly defend their religion no matter the question or comment made, they are condensending & rejoice in never really answering a direct question, & . These people also fail to show the side of Jesus that I have read about in the NT; the side that healed the soldier's ear when it was cut off in the Garden.

Just something I wanted to point out. Hopefully these 'angry Christians" (as I call them) will use this post as a 'developemental opprutunity' to change the way they address issues as Christians

VBach37 · Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 2056 Location: New Hampshire

Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. -Matthew 5:5 :-D

Enoch · Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 9530

VBach37 wrote: Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. -Matthew 5:5 :-D

Actually, the meek shall inherit the earth because they stay up late and change the will. ;-)

eynon · Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:41 pm Post subject:

UrielsFyre wrote: VBach37 wrote: Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. -Matthew 5:5 :-D

Actually, the meek shall inherit the earth because they stay up late and change the will. ;-)

:lol: :lol: maybe it's cause they keep their heads down while the bold are busy killing each other off :wink:

tictactactical · Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Posts: 511 Location: West Virginia

connermt wrote: After a month or 2 of reading through the forums, I have found it interesting that I have found 2 basic 'camps' that these 'Forum Christians' seem to fall into:
1) The Meek. These people seem to be loving & caring, who try to help others understand their POV. These people seem to be of a meek nature & delights in discussing their beliefs while not badgering other's for their beliefs
2) The Angry. These Christians seem to feel the need to instantly defend their religion no matter the question or comment made, they are condensending & rejoice in never really answering a direct question, & . These people also fail to show the side of Jesus that I have read about in the NT; the side that healed the soldier's ear when it was cut off in the Garden.

Just something I wanted to point out. Hopefully these 'angry Christians" (as I call them) will use this post as a 'developemental opprutunity' to change the way they address issues as Christians
You had to read these forums to learn this? And it took you a month or 2?

This "two camp" phenom doesn't just exist in Christianity though, it exists with all religions; it also exists with political ideologies, but that's for another thread :-D

tictactactical · Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Posts: 511 Location: West Virginia

connermt wrote: Just something I wanted to point out. Hopefully these 'angry Christians" (as I call them) will use this post as a 'developemental opprutunity' to change the way they address issues as Christians
Herein lies the problem: you think you're "camp" of Christianity is correct and that the other "camp" needs to conform more in line with yours, and I'm sure that likewise, it believes the same in reverse. But, everything in this world needs balance, you know, the ying and the yang, so in actuality, one cannot exist without the other; so, to wish an end to one side, is to wish an end to your own.

connermt · Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 1526 Location: CMH OHIO

tictactactical wrote: connermt wrote: After a month or 2 of reading through the forums, I have found it interesting that I have found 2 basic 'camps' that these 'Forum Christians' seem to fall into:
1) The Meek. These people seem to be loving & caring, who try to help others understand their POV. These people seem to be of a meek nature & delights in discussing their beliefs while not badgering other's for their beliefs
2) The Angry. These Christians seem to feel the need to instantly defend their religion no matter the question or comment made, they are condensending & rejoice in never really answering a direct question, & . These people also fail to show the side of Jesus that I have read about in the NT; the side that healed the soldier's ear when it was cut off in the Garden.

Just something I wanted to point out. Hopefully these 'angry Christians" (as I call them) will use this post as a 'developemental opprutunity' to change the way they address issues as Christians
You had to read these forums to learn this? And it took you a month or 2?

This "two camp" phenom doesn't just exist in Christianity though, it exists with all religions; it also exists with political ideologies, but that's for another thread :-D

Honestly I was shocked & apalled to see how some 'christians' speak to other people on here. I grew up in the church & NEVER heard ANY Christian speak down to people the way it happens on here. So maybe I was giving some of these people the benefit of the doubt for a while.

connermt · Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 1526 Location: CMH OHIO

tictactactical wrote: connermt wrote: Just something I wanted to point out. Hopefully these 'angry Christians" (as I call them) will use this post as a 'developemental opprutunity' to change the way they address issues as Christians
Herein lies the problem: you think you're "camp" of Christianity is correct and that the other "camp" needs to conform more in line with yours, and I'm sure that likewise, it believes the same in reverse. But, everything in this world needs balance, you know, the ying and the yang, so in actuality, one cannot exist without the other; so, to wish an end to one side, is to wish an end to your own.

I personally believe that there should be no ying & yang when it comes to how christians address people in conversation, especially when people ask legitimate questions & are seeking answers. I have seen post on here where the poster seems to be legitimately seeking answers & help only to be met with harsh words from some christians. Deplorable

eynon · Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:27 pm Post subject:

I wish there was only one camp of Christians, those who tried their best to show others our faith, not scream about it..............course it's kinda hard to "show" your faith in an on-line forum :think:

connermt · Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 1526 Location: CMH OHIO

Eynon81 wrote: I wish there was only one camp of Christians, those who tried their best to show others our faith, not scream about it..............course it's kinda hard to "show" your faith in an on-line forum :think:
It is, but there are ways to make sure you put your best foot forth & some people appear to do their best to do the opposite. Maybe they just want to feel or appear smart so they scoff at legitimate questions or concerns, they answer a question with a quote or biblical passge & nothing more, etc.

Darth Tiberius · Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 2001 Location: Oxford

VBach37 wrote: Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. -Matthew 5:5 :-D

A Jehovah's Witness verse.

eynon · Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:23 pm Post subject:

connermt wrote: Eynon81 wrote: I wish there was only one camp of Christians, those who tried their best to show others our faith, not scream about it..............course it's kinda hard to "show" your faith in an on-line forum :think:
It is, but there are ways to make sure you put your best foot forth & some people appear to do their best to do the opposite. Maybe they just want to feel or appear smart so they scoff at legitimate questions or concerns, they answer a question with a quote or biblical passge & nothing more, etc.

humor never hurts :-D

tictactactical · Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Posts: 511 Location: West Virginia

connermt wrote: tictactactical wrote: connermt wrote: Just something I wanted to point out. Hopefully these 'angry Christians" (as I call them) will use this post as a 'developemental opprutunity' to change the way they address issues as Christians
Herein lies the problem: you think you're "camp" of Christianity is correct and that the other "camp" needs to conform more in line with yours, and I'm sure that likewise, it believes the same in reverse. But, everything in this world needs balance, you know, the ying and the yang, so in actuality, one cannot exist without the other; so, to wish an end to one side, is to wish an end to your own.

I personally believe that there should be no ying & yang when it comes to how christians address people in conversation, especially when people ask legitimate questions & are seeking answers. I have seen post on here where the poster seems to be legitimately seeking answers & help only to be met with harsh words from some christians. Deplorable
Unfortunately, ying and yang, or whatever someone chooses to call it, does exist, and it exists everywhere with everything; it's a fact of life, so we can choose to accept it, and embrace its value, or we can engage in a futile battle to change what can never change.

VBach37 · Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 2056 Location: New Hampshire

tictactactical wrote: connermt wrote: tictactactical wrote: connermt wrote: Just something I wanted to point out. Hopefully these 'angry Christians" (as I call them) will use this post as a 'developemental opprutunity' to change the way they address issues as Christians
Herein lies the problem: you think you're "camp" of Christianity is correct and that the other "camp" needs to conform more in line with yours, and I'm sure that likewise, it believes the same in reverse. But, everything in this world needs balance, you know, the ying and the yang, so in actuality, one cannot exist without the other; so, to wish an end to one side, is to wish an end to your own.

I personally believe that there should be no ying & yang when it comes to how christians address people in conversation, especially when people ask legitimate questions & are seeking answers. I have seen post on here where the poster seems to be legitimately seeking answers & help only to be met with harsh words from some christians. Deplorable
Unfortunately, ying and yang, or whatever someone chooses to call it, does exist, and it exists everywhere with everything; it's a fact of life, so we can choose to accept it, and embrace its value, or we can engage in a futile battle to change what can never change.

The world is flat. Just look around you, it's quite obvious. It's a fact of life, so we can choose to accept it, and embrace its value, or we can engage in a futile battle to change what can never... oh wait, Magellan already did!

The Central Scrutinizer

connermt wrote: After a month or 2 of reading through the forums, I have found it interesting that I have found 2 basic 'camps' that these 'Forum Christians' seem to fall into:
1) The Meek. These people seem to be loving & caring, who try to help others understand their POV. These people seem to be of a meek nature & delights in discussing their beliefs while not badgering other's for their beliefs
2) The Angry. These Christians seem to feel the need to instantly defend their religion no matter the question or comment made, they are condensending & rejoice in never really answering a direct question, & . These people also fail to show the side of Jesus that I have read about in the NT; the side that healed the soldier's ear when it was cut off in the Garden.

Just something I wanted to point out. Hopefully these 'angry Christians" (as I call them) will use this post as a 'developemental opprutunity' to change the way they address issues as Christians

Some of us just can't stand it when the infidels get uppity. We must love Jesus more than you.

tictactactical · Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Posts: 511 Location: West Virginia

VBach37 wrote: tictactactical wrote: connermt wrote: tictactactical wrote: connermt wrote: Just something I wanted to point out. Hopefully these 'angry Christians" (as I call them) will use this post as a 'developemental opprutunity' to change the way they address issues as Christians
Herein lies the problem: you think you're "camp" of Christianity is correct and that the other "camp" needs to conform more in line with yours, and I'm sure that likewise, it believes the same in reverse. But, everything in this world needs balance, you know, the ying and the yang, so in actuality, one cannot exist without the other; so, to wish an end to one side, is to wish an end to your own.

I personally believe that there should be no ying & yang when it comes to how christians address people in conversation, especially when people ask legitimate questions & are seeking answers. I have seen post on here where the poster seems to be legitimately seeking answers & help only to be met with harsh words from some christians. Deplorable
Unfortunately, ying and yang, or whatever someone chooses to call it, does exist, and it exists everywhere with everything; it's a fact of life, so we can choose to accept it, and embrace its value, or we can engage in a futile battle to change what can never change.

The world is flat. Just look around you, it's quite obvious. It's a fact of life, so we can choose to accept it, and embrace its value, or we can engage in a futile battle to change what can never... oh wait, Magellan already did!
If you're going to make an argument using an analogy, make it relevant.

Ying and yang are, as all FORCES of the universe, opposite, equal, and compliment each other, while also sharing traits from the other...... Light does not exist without darkness, and vice versa. Good does not exist without bad, and vice versa; life does not exist without death, and vice versa; happiness does not exist without sorrow, and vice versa....do you get it now? Did Magellan dispute the existance of light? Darkness? Good? Bad? Life? Death? Happiness? Sorrow? of course he didn't and no one can sanely deny their existance, no matter how much one might hate them.

connermt · Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 1526 Location: CMH OHIO

tictactactical wrote: connermt wrote: tictactactical wrote: connermt wrote: Just something I wanted to point out. Hopefully these 'angry Christians" (as I call them) will use this post as a 'developemental opprutunity' to change the way they address issues as Christians
Herein lies the problem: you think you're "camp" of Christianity is correct and that the other "camp" needs to conform more in line with yours, and I'm sure that likewise, it believes the same in reverse. But, everything in this world needs balance, you know, the ying and the yang, so in actuality, one cannot exist without the other; so, to wish an end to one side, is to wish an end to your own.

I personally believe that there should be no ying & yang when it comes to how christians address people in conversation, especially when people ask legitimate questions & are seeking answers. I have seen post on here where the poster seems to be legitimately seeking answers & help only to be met with harsh words from some christians. Deplorable
Unfortunately, ying and yang, or whatever someone chooses to call it, does exist, and it exists everywhere with everything; it's a fact of life, so we can choose to accept it, and embrace its value, or we can engage in a futile battle to change what can never change.

In the regards of RIGHT & WRONG, then I can see your point. But it is wrong for a person who is suppose to be modeling their life after Christ's life (which is what a Christian is suppose to do) to talk to someone who is honestly seeking to gain understanding of God & Christinaity in the manner that I have seen some on here do (which is a spiteful, 'I am better & smarter than you' attitude & the 'you are stupid NOT to believe' attitude, to name a few). There is no exception.

connermt · Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 1526 Location: CMH OHIO

I just had a reply to one of my most recent & innocent post I put out so I thought this post should be brought back up to the front for 'certain people' to review
ENJOY

connermt · Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 1526 Location: CMH OHIO

I find it most interesting that some people on here are so closed minded, but still seem to consider themselves intelligent.
Why is it than when anything that could ever REMOTELY challenge a person's belief they are so quick to dismiss it? And most time, at least in my case, it is not challenging their beliefs, but pointing out a potential learning experience. Probably because they are afraid of being wrong? Maybe that would shake their foundation of faith? That's sad really & I challenge their actual faith itself.
I am sure there are MANY people on here who know more about certain things than I do. I only claim to be eager to learn. But no, a few on here don't want to teach or put forth their beliefs or ideas - most seem content with looking down their noses at others.
Some people on here that seem to consider themselves smart tend to offer 'a good read' in a verse or a book or a story & when asked point blank to explain their point, they can't. Some even flat out refuse.
I am glad it makes them feel superior.
When I first joined this place I was rather taken by people on here that seemed to know a lot more than I did. Now I am finding out it is a magic act - they appear to be blowing smoke to appear smarter/better/{whatever word you want to insert here} than others.
Well I have news for these people (& you know who you are): You are only fooling yourselves. Spout your words, your verses, your books, your stories all you want. If you can't put your thoughts & ideas down on words in here, no one is listening to your trite dribble. At least you feel better about yourselves...... :clap:
ps:
To those of you who, even though we may or may not agree, & are still willing to try to get me & others to understand their POV, I say thank you.

perdidochas · Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 15424 Location: Florida

connermt wrote: I find it most interesting that some people on here are so closed minded, but still seem to consider themselves intelligent.

Open-mindedness is not associated with intelligence, IMHO. Neither is close-mindedness. I've know open-minded morons. I've known open-minded geniuses. I've known close-minded morons. I've know close-minded geniuses.

connermt wrote: Why is it than when anything that could ever REMOTELY challenge a person's belief they are so quick to dismiss it?

Some of us have spent a lot of time thinking out our opinions. If your opinion is different than mine, of course I'm going to dismiss it, at least for my use.