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joe christian · Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 282

The Central Scrutinizer wrote: Now when a woman has an abortion, is it the fault of the woman for driving herself to the clinic, seeking the procedure, and signing off on it? Or the clinic for providing it?
It is the fault of the abortion providers just like it is the fault of tobacco companies for causing 285 billion dollars in health costs and fiscal damages to the the states.

Quote: You are at the top of a prestigious and hard-to-crack list, my friend. Congratulate yourself.
I will humbly accept your congratualtions, my friend.

Quote: Women know what they are getting into.
Their husbands and father's do not.
Quote: They choose to go to abortionists.
Their husbands and father's do not.
Quote: Jews were forced to go to concentration camps.
So are human fetuses scheduled for abortions forced to go the abortion chambers.
Quote: They did not know that they were going to shower in nerve gas, and if they did, few of them would have chosen to die in the gas chambers.
Neither do husbands and fathers know that their children's lives are going to be aborted anytime some woman and abortionist decide to secretly kill their offspring.
Quote: We don't round up pregnant women and send them to "health spas" where we tell them they will get a full body massage and instead abort their fetuses.
You just tell American fathers and husbands that their daughters can be conveniently aborted any time some abortionist and woman feels like it.

Quote: Husbands should be involved. But the fetus isn't in the man's body.
The fetus is the sexual reproduction of both the husband and wife and is no more the property of either than of the abortionists.

Quote: Women, the ones who actually bear the children, must make the ultimate choice.
They cannot make "the choice" unless atheistic and secular pro-abortion nazis give them the secular right to.

Quote: Their men have input, but they cannot make the choice themselves.
Men can make the choice of whether to fight and die for something though, and as long as atheists give nazi abortionists the secular right to kill American babies without the husband's informed consent, no American male can be forced to serve such a secular country in a time of war.

After all, according to your philosophy, men and women can do what they want with their bodies and no government can draft men or women into performing some secular military duty they would impose on them in order to save their country from foreign invasion.

joe christian · Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 282

steen wrote: The Central Scrutinizer wrote: I had to step away from my computer for five minutes after this little gem. You may be beyond reason. This is without a doubt, the most absolutely stupid thing I have ever heard in my entire life. You are at the top of a prestigious and hard-to-crack list, my friend. Congratulate yourself.

It is the demonstration of Godwin's Law
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

"There is a tradition in many Usenet newsgroups that once such a comparison is made the thread in which the comment was posted is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever debate was in progress."
Godwin's law is only applicable though when certain members of unmentionable newsgroups are not able to reasonably distance themselves or some of their tactics and practices from those of the defunct nazi party.

Such arbitrary and authoritarian rules for terminating reasonable Judeo-Christian discussions pertaining to facets of either national socialism, secular socialism or any other form of atheistic socialism, are only created for the benefit of those who naturally feel guilty when their own secular laws and government tend to conform with the aforementioned political systems.

Godwin's fabricated law may even be considered to be in violation of Judeo-Christian American Law which proclaims justice and liberty throughout the land.

joe christian · Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 282

The Underground wrote:
http://www.priestsforlife.org/resources/abortionimages/malachi.jpg

Trying to appeal to emotions? what an aborted fetus looks like is of no bearing to the discussion.
Without the usual accompanying graphic pictures, photos, newsreels or videos though, we wouldn't have much evidence of any historic holocausts.

Quote: uh-oh open heart surgery better not be preformed anymore.
Hopefully, in open-heart surgery, a human heart does not stop functioning altogether, as it inevitably does in a nazi abortionist's butcher shop.

http://www.abortionno.org/Resources/pictures_2.html

joe christian · Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 282

The Underground wrote: joe christian wrote: Medical doctors may perform abortions in hospitals when they are medically necessary to save the woman's life. That is what hospitals and doctors are for. They do not perform abortions on demand if they are not medically necessary to save the patient from injury or death as a result of the pregancy.

Sure they do, insurance companies just don't pay for it.
Abortions are covered under most employee medical plans which cover maternity expences.

Quote: EDIT: the tenth commandment is "thall shall not covet what is thy neighbors" What do athiestic hospitals have to do with this?
Nazis who advertise their skills and competence in performing abortions on demand for women in private abortion clinics covet their neighbors wife and their neighbor's fetus as well as their neighbor's money and reproductive rights.

The Central Scrutinizer · Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 2:50 pm Post subject:

joe christian wrote: The Central Scrutinizer wrote: Now when a woman has an abortion, is it the fault of the woman for driving herself to the clinic, seeking the procedure, and signing off on it? Or the clinic for providing it?
It is the fault of the abortion providers just like it is the fault of tobacco companies for causing 285 billion dollars in health costs and fiscal damages to the the states.

You didn't answer my questions. In all of those circumstances, who was at fault?

Quote: Quote: Women know what they are getting into.
Their husbands and father's do not.
Quote: They choose to go to abortionists.
Their husbands and father's do not.

Of course they do, don't be daft. Women will inform their men if they feel they should, and they often do. Logically, men have as much to lose from an unwanted pregnancy as the woman. They understand what is going on. You are woefully underestimating the capacity of men both for understanding and decision-making.

Quote: Quote: Jews were forced to go to concentration camps.
So are human fetuses scheduled for abortions forced to go the abortion chambers.

But your argument was that the women were forced to go, not the fetuses. Is that no longer the case?

You cannot equate abortion to the Holocaust. I'm sorry. The Holocaust forcibly ripped people from their homes, from their lives, starved them for months, worked them to near death, performed medical experiments on them, and gassed or shot the no longer useful. Abortion is the choice of a woman and potentially the father, to terminate something which is, biologically speaking, not viable. This is the unresolved issue in all abortion debates and can be dealt with in other threads. Your assumptions up to this point were that the women were being forced to do something. They are not.

Quote: Quote: They did not know that they were going to shower in nerve gas, and if they did, few of them would have chosen to die in the gas chambers.
Neither do husbands and fathers know that their children's lives are going to be aborted anytime some woman and abortionist decide to secretly kill their offspring.

Yes, and somehow that makes it morally more wrong? The abortion is still an abortion, whether daddy knows or is ignorant at home watching the Seahawks.

Quote: Quote: We don't round up pregnant women and send them to "health spas" where we tell them they will get a full body massage and instead abort their fetuses.

You just tell American fathers and husbands that their daughters can be conveniently aborted any time some abortionist and woman feels like it.

Yes. Men don't carry the child. You can't even possibly understand what it's like to be pregnant and to deliver a baby. Yes, I would want to know if my wife were to have an abortion. But in what rational sense are my opinions in this matter equivalent to hers? And tell me, how many women have abandoned their husband and child because they can't stand the responsibility?

Quote: Quote: Husbands should be involved. But the fetus isn't in the man's body.
The fetus is the sexual reproduction of both the husband and wife and is no more the property of either than of the abortionists.

Product of both their bodies, but the responsibility and the labor is the woman's alone. It cannot live without her. That makes it her property, until it can live on its own.

Quote: Quote: Women, the ones who actually bear the children, must make the ultimate choice.
They cannot make "the choice" unless atheistic and secular pro-abortion nazis give them the secular right to.

No, they can make the choice by drinking poisons, or starving themselves, or using a coat hanger, or having their boyfriend punch them in the stomach or kick them down the stairs. This is not unknown to happen in times and places where safe abortions are not available. Abortion has existed almost as long as pregnancy. Roe v. Wade did not invent it.

Quote: Quote: Their men have input, but they cannot make the choice themselves.
Men can make the choice of whether to fight and die for something though, and as long as atheists give nazi abortionists the secular right to kill American babies without the husband's informed consent, no American male can be forced to serve such a secular country in a time of war.

Non sequitur.

Quote: After all, according to your philosophy, men and women can do what they want with their bodies and no government can draft men or women into performing some secular military duty they would impose on them in order to save their country from foreign invasion.

Of course the government can. It is the individual choice whether or not to report or not to report for the draft.

joe christian · Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 282

The Central Scrutinizer wrote: joe christian wrote: The Central Scrutinizer wrote: Now when a woman has an abortion, is it the fault of the woman for driving herself to the clinic, seeking the procedure, and signing off on it? Or the clinic for providing it?
It is the fault of the abortion providers just like it is the fault of tobacco companies for causing 285 billion dollars in health costs and fiscal damages to the the states.

You didn't answer my questions. In all of those circumstances, who was at fault?
The tobacco and abortion providers.

Quote: Women will inform their men if they feel they should, and they often do.
The government should inform the fathers everytime abortionists kill their offspring. Otherwise, the government has no moral right to draft American men into the Armed Services to kill Muslims.

Quote: Logically, men have as much to lose from an unwanted pregnancy as the woman. They understand what is going on.
There is no evidence of any American man being informed of his wife's abortion.

Quote: You are woefully underestimating the capacity of men both for understanding and decision-making.
You are mistakenly claiming that men are informed about anything when their wives and some professional baby-killer decide to abort their children.

Quote: But your argument was that the women were forced to go, not the fetuses. Is that no longer the case?
That was your defense and rationalization for abortions. My argument is that American men are denied their reproductive rights in marriage.

Quote: You cannot equate abortion to the Holocaust.
Of course I can since many others also do.

http://www.lifedynamics.com/DeathCamps/Holocaust.cfm

http://www.survivors.la/

http://www.trosch.org/ide/aborholo.html

http://www.knightsite.com/kc9496/unborn15.htm

http://www.whateveristrue.com/holocaust/cor1.htm

http://www.abortionfacts.com/literature/literature_927hh.asp

http://www.azrtl.org/blog/2006/02/abortion-holocaust-why-words-have.html

Quote: I'm sorry. The Holocaust forcibly ripped people from their homes, from their lives, starved them for months, worked them to near death, performed medical experiments on them, and gassed or shot the no longer useful. Abortion is the choice of a woman and potentially the father, to terminate something which is, biologically speaking, not viable.
Biological theories are responsible for both the Nazi and American Abortion Holocaust. The same anti-Judeo-Christian biological mentality and culture of death prevails.

Quote: Men don't carry the child.
They don't even get to pick up the pieces of the child once the nazi abortionists are finished with it.

Quote: You can't even possibly understand what it's like to be pregnant and to deliver a baby.
Now you are chastizing men for their male biology in order to disenfranchise men from experiencing both fatherhood and manhood.

Quote: Yes, I would want to know if my wife were to have an abortion.
That's the first admission of male responsibility and rights that you have made.

Quote: But in what rational sense are my opinions in this matter equivalent to hers?
If you are her husband, your wife has as much reponsibilty to inform you of the fate of your progeny and posterity as you have to love and protect her from destroying what God has created for the benefit of your marriage.

Quote: And tell me, how many women have abandoned their husband and child because they can't stand the responsibility?
That is exactly what women do when they allow abortionists to kill their husband's child without his knowledge and consent.

Quote: Product of both their bodies, but the responsibility and the labor is the woman's alone. It cannot live without her. That makes it her property, until it can live on its own.
That logic implies that anyone or anything which cannot live on its own may become someone elses property, and since neither people nor their fetuses are considered the property of anyone in US law anymore, your conclusion is basically illogical.

[quote] Quote: Women, the ones who actually bear the children, must make the ultimate choice.

The ultimate choice of whether abortionists may legally ply their trade or not may be made by either the SCOTUS or the supreme court of each of our 50 states.

Quote: No, they can make the choice by drinking poisons, or starving themselves, or using a coat hanger, or having their boyfriend punch them in the stomach or kick them down the stairs.
Not if that behavior is illegal and punishable with 6-8 years in prison, as it is in Chile, Colombia and El Salvador. If those states discover that a homicide has occurred, the perps can get up to 50 years in the slammer. There have been very few reports of illegal abortions in El Salvador since they amended their Constitution to guarantee the governments protection of human life from the moment of conception.

Quote: This is not unknown to happen in times and places where safe abortions are not available.
Yes, but when attempted abortions are a felony, very few are reported and the public is spared the gory details.

Quote: Abortion has existed almost as long as pregnancy. Roe v. Wade did not invent it.
RvW encourages women to kill their husbands children.

Quote: It is the individual choice whether or not to report or not to report for the draft.
Some choice. Thousands of draft-dodgers had to run away to Canada during the Vietnam War and would still be there if Jimmy Carter hadn't granted those who dodged their duty, amnesty.

Now that American abortionists and feminists have gained the right and experience of killing over 45 million American babies, we have lots of feminine cannon fodder for the war against Islamofacists overseas.

The Central Scrutinizer · Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:41 pm Post subject:

Gotta condense this a bit; the posts are getting too long.

If your only justification of your comparison of abortion to the Holocaust is by saying that other people do it, then you have no real argument. If a fetus is not a human life, those people are idiots. If a fetus is, than its still nothing like the Holocaust. It's a slogan. It's a meme. It's a couple of words--"abortion Holocaust"--that's meant to get into your head and outrage you. Don't buy the hype. It's defective.

Can you show me evidence that men do not ever know when their partners get abortions? You seem to make the claim that this is all going on behind men's backs. How could it?

Your connection of the legitimacy of abortion to the legitimacy of a military draft is a non sequitur. The conclusion does not logically follow from the premise.

And because the public doesn't hear about felonius back-alley abortions, that's ok? You're a hoot.

And finally, if I get rear-ended by someone at a stoplight and pull out my handgun and blow out their brains, is it my fault or the fault of the gun company for providing me with a weapon? It's mine! Because the choice to shoot him was mine! If I smoke, it's not because a Camel in sunglasses tells me to, it's because I choosse to light up! If my wife were to go and get an abortion, it would be because she chose to, not because former Justice Blackmun rose from the grave, and along with the current SCOTUS, Hillary Clinton, the head of NARAL, and a planned parenthood doctor, shackled her and forcibly aborted her fetus!

Where will your insane denial of personal responsibility end? Did your parents not teach you these values? People are responsible for their own actions. "The devil (Winston-Salem, Bacardi, NARAL) made me do it!" is not an acceptable answer, ever. It is an excuse. You are excusing the women and their husbands and the abortion doctors from any culpability in the act of abortion. It was they who chose, and if you're going to lay blame for the "abortion Holocaust," you can lay it at the feet of the American people. F*ck your abortionists! They are a gun. People pull the trigger.

joe christian · Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 282

The Central Scrutinizer wrote: If your only justification of your comparison of abortion to the Holocaust is by saying that other people do it, then you have no real argument.
You said that I couldn't compare US abortions to the Nazi Holocaust. I backed up my claim that I could by showing that others do also. You say I have no real argument but I say that anyone can choose to compare the US Abortion Holocaust to the the Nazi one. If you say we can't, you are only hypocritically denying us free choice while you are very generous in giving feminists and abortionist the choice of killing US babies.

Quote: If a fetus is not a human life, those people are idiots.
The fetus is a human life and those people are not idiots just because you say they are.

Quote: If a fetus is, than its still nothing like the Holocaust. It's a slogan. It's a meme. It's a couple of words--"abortion Holocaust"--that's meant to get into your head and outrage you. Don't buy the hype. It's defective.
I don't believe you. I believe them. You are just trying to discredit them in order to justify of the killing of 40 million American Judeo-Christian babies in this Abortion Holocaust.

Quote: Can you show me evidence that men do not ever know when their partners get abortions?
No. That is the way holocausts are perpetuated. There is no evidence of any man giving his written consent when his wife gets an abortion. That is why Judeo-Christian fathers cannot be held responsible for this Holocaust. The feminists and abortionists can produce no evidence that one Judeo-Christian man has ever consented to having another man or woman kill his natural child before it was born.

Quote: You seem to make the claim that this is all going on behind men's backs. How could it?
They are neither informed nor notified when abortionists kill their children, even if they are married.

Quote: And because the public doesn't hear about felonius back-alley abortions, that's ok? You're a hoot.
Some people like to read sensational crime stories in their newspapers. Others are not interested in reading about criminal activities which do not concern them. Personally, I'm not interested in newspaper stories about the sexually self-destructive behavior of women I don't even know.

Quote: And finally, if I get rear-ended by someone at a stoplight and pull out my handgun and blow out their brains, is it my fault or the fault of the gun company for providing me with a weapon? It's mine! Because the choice to shoot him was mine!
Since you don't have the right to choose to shoot anybody except in self-defense, the dealer who sold you the weapon and the state which allowed the sale of a gun to a dereanged individual like you would be in this case, would be financially co-liable for the loss of the individual to his family.

Quote: If I smoke, it's not because a Camel in sunglasses tells me to, it's because I choosse to light up!
The tobacco companies have been held liable for state medical expenditures on smokers who contracted diseases from tobacco to the tune of 285 billion dollars. That is why Joe Camel ads are banned now.

Quote: If my wife were to go and get an abortion, it would be because she chose to, not because former Justice Blackmun rose from the grave, and along with the current SCOTUS, Hillary Clinton, the head of NARAL, and a planned parenthood doctor, shackled her and forcibly aborted her fetus!
It would only be because the above pro-abortinists made it convenient for your wife to get your child's life terminated before he or she was born. If I give a kid a gun and pay him to kill you, I am exonerated simply because the kid exercised his free choice to kill you?

Quote: Where will your insane denial of personal responsibility end? Did your parents not teach you these values?
I learned a few values from them but abortion wasn't one of the virtues and values taught in those days. (I just turned 65 last month, Allah be praised!) According to my Judeo-Christian values and understanding of mental health, it is the feminist and secular pro-abortionists who are insane and will be held personally responsible for the current American Abortion Holocaust.

Quote: You are excusing the women and their husbands and the abortion doctors from any culpability in the act of abortion.
I am just excusing and forgiving the victims of abortion, not the so-called doctors who actually do the killing in atheistic and secular abortion chambers.

Quote: It was they who chose, and if you're going to lay blame for the "abortion Holocaust," you can lay it at the feet of the American people.
You can blame who you choose. Pro-lifers can blame who they choose. We choose to hold the actual abortionists culpable for their crimes against the American populace. They are the ones who have spilled innocent blood.

Quote: F*ck your abortionists!
They are your abortionists - not mine.

Quote: They are a gun. People pull the trigger.
Atheistic and secular abortionists kill one million American babies each year, not any Judeo-Christian men and women.

Prole · Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 2259 Location: Edinburgh

Christian doctors perform the majority of abortions in America. And fetuses don't have any religious affiliation.

Oops. Sorry, joe.

joe christian · Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 282

Prole wrote: Christian doctors perform the majority of abortions in America. And fetuses don't have any religious affiliation.

Oops. Sorry, joe.
Christian doctors don't kill Jewish/Christian fetuses and partially-born babies. Only atheistic, feminist and secular abortionists kill Jewish/Christian fetuses and partially-born babies in compliance with secular law.

Abortion is not a Judeo-Christian religious practice. It is a pagan and wiccan practice which atheists, feminists and abortionists are performing on Judeo-Christian fetuses and partially-born babies in America.

spearsy23 · Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 5624 Location: Fulton, Ks

joe christian wrote: Prole wrote: Christian doctors perform the majority of abortions in America. And fetuses don't have any religious affiliation.

Oops. Sorry, joe.
Christian doctors don't kill Jewish/Christian fetuses and partially-born babies. Only atheistic, feminist and secular abortionists kill Jewish/Christian fetuses and partially-born babies in compliance with secular law.

Abortion is not a Judeo-Christian religious practice. It is a pagan and wiccan practice which atheists, feminists and abortionists are performing on Judeo-Christian fetuses and partially-born babies in America.

How is a baby christian/jewish/athiest? i was under teh impression they weren't old enough to make a decision.

Background checks are not ran on abortion patients, so a doctor would have no knowledge of the patients religious practices.

joe christian · Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 282

[quote="The Underground"] joe christian wrote: Prole wrote: Christian doctors perform the majority of abortions in America. And fetuses don't have any religious affiliation.

Oops. Sorry, joe.
Christian doctors don't kill Jewish/Christian fetuses and partially-born babies. Only atheistic, feminist and secular abortionists kill Jewish/Christian fetuses and partially-born babies in compliance with secular law.

Abortion is not a Judeo-Christian religious practice. It is a pagan and wiccan practice which atheists, feminists and abortionists are performing on Judeo-Christian fetuses and partially-born babies in America.

Quote: How is a baby christian/jewish/athiest? i was under teh impression they weren't old enough to make a decision.
Judeo-Christians believe all things were created by God and that the course of our lives is known to God even before we are born. I think it is called predestination or Providence.

Quote: Background checks are not ran on abortion patients, so a doctor would have no knowledge of the patients religious practices.
How come pro-abortionists claim that 75% of US women getting abortions are Roman Catholics and Protestants then?

We are running background checks on secular abortionists and find that none of them practice any religion other than atheism or paganism.

sgtshortness · Joined: 17 Mar 2006 Posts: 82

Quote: Judeo-Christians believe all things were created by God and that the course of our lives is known to God even before we are born. I think it is called predestination or Providence.

Er... a Judeo-Christian's baby can still turn out to be atheistic if that's its predestination. Still doesnt answer the question of how a child/baby/fetus/whateveryouwannacallit is religious.

Quote: How come pro-abortionists claim that 75% of US women getting abortions are Roman Catholics and Protestants then?

We are running background checks on secular abortionists and find that none of them practice any religion other than atheism or paganism.

First one, surveys.

Second one, evidence please.

joe christian · Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 282

sgtshortness wrote: Quote: Judeo-Christians believe all things were created by God and that the course of our lives is known to God even before we are born. I think it is called predestination or Providence.

Er... a Judeo-Christian's baby can still turn out to be atheistic if that's its predestination.

That's true.
Quote: Still doesnt answer the question of how a child/baby/fetus/whateveryouwannacallit is religious.
The religious nature of the baby is whatever the mother and father say it is. If the mother is Jewish, the baby is Jewish, etc.

spearsy23 · Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 5624 Location: Fulton, Ks

joe christian wrote: sgtshortness wrote: Quote: Judeo-Christians believe all things were created by God and that the course of our lives is known to God even before we are born. I think it is called predestination or Providence.

Er... a Judeo-Christian's baby can still turn out to be atheistic if that's its predestination.

That's true.
Quote: Still doesnt answer the question of how a child/baby/fetus/whateveryouwannacallit is religious.
The religious nature of the baby is whatever the mother and father say it is. If the mother is Jewish, the baby is Jewish, etc.

My mother is Christian, i'm athiestic blows a hole in that argument doesn't it.

sgtshortness · Joined: 17 Mar 2006 Posts: 82

My parents were raised in the Chinese culture with all the nice Chinese New Year festivals and spirits and things.

Don't think they believe in them anymore.

If they do, I don't.

My friend's parents are Christian and he's not.

My other friend's parents are Buddhist and he's agnostic/atheist.

Edit: I think he's talking about the fetus and the mother/father will decide what religion the fetus is. So... the fetus, which has no capabiliy of belief in religion, has parents that will decide what a non-believing? fetus believes

sgtshortness · Joined: 17 Mar 2006 Posts: 82

By the way, you haven't given me evidence yet~

Robodoon · Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5027 Location: Lakeport

joe christian wrote: Religious Activists for Population Increase and Development

RAPID is a rapidly growing grassroots movement for the rapid increase and development of the Jewish, Christian and Islamic population in America.

We therefore denounce all medical doctors and medical organizations who perform abortions on Catholic, Protestant, Jewish and Muslim women without their being fully informed of the doctor's religion, religious affiliation or lack thereof, and their written consent acknowledging the religious identification of both the doctor, and the owners and operators of the abortion facility.

cool

joe christian · Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 282

The Underground wrote: joe christian wrote: sgtshortness wrote:
Er... a Judeo-Christian's baby can still turn out to be atheistic if that's its predestination.

That's true. The religious nature of the baby is whatever the mother and father say it is. If the mother is Jewish, the baby is Jewish, etc.

My mother is Christian, i'm athiestic blows a hole in that argument doesn't it.
Nope, because sqt and I already agreed on the possibilty of Christian babies becoming atheists when they grow up. Likewise, the babies of athiests sometimes grow up to be exemplary Christians.

All babies are created by God, nevertheless.

joe christian · Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 282

sgtshortness wrote: My parents were raised in the Chinese culture with all the nice Chinese New Year festivals and spirits and things.

Don't think they believe in them anymore.

If they do, I don't.

My friend's parents are Christian and he's not.

My other friend's parents are Buddhist and he's agnostic/atheist.

Edit: I think he's talking about the fetus and the mother/father will decide what religion the fetus is. So... the fetus, which has no capabiliy of belief in religion, has parents that will decide what a non-believing? fetus believes
In Judaism, a Jew is one whose mother was Jewish. In Judeo-Christianity, a Christian is one who was baptized as such by either parent at any time before or after birth.

Chinese paganism and Buddhist agnosticism have nothing to with Judeo-Christianity.