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Sid · Joined: 26 Oct 2004 Posts: 4613 Location: Kansas

Running it on a live CD.... Soooo fast, well, after setting up hardware... This is awesome. It took a little while to get my internet set up, and I have some things to learn, but this is awesome. My brother says that it's wayyyy faster if you just install it. I have a windows partition, and another unused NTFS partition, is there anyway I could isntall ubuntu on that? 'cause this is so awesome.

Korimyr the Rat · Joined: 11 Jan 2006 Posts: 983 Location: Wyoming

I'm jealous. I've been trying to get it to work, but I can't get the Live CD to work with my video card, much less my wireless Internet.

I'm going to get someone else to help me, because I'm sick of how much of my system is being taken up by the OS.

Protostar · Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:57 pm Post subject: Re: Running Ubuntu

Sid wrote: Running it on a live CD.... Soooo fast, well, after setting up hardware... This is awesome. It took a little while to get my internet set up, and I have some things to learn, but this is awesome. My brother says that it's wayyyy faster if you just install it. I have a windows partition, and another unused NTFS partition, is there anyway I could isntall ubuntu on that? 'cause this is so awesome.

You cannot install Ubuntu on an NTFS partition. You can tell the Ubuntu installer to format it and use it as a Linux partition (my fav. is the Reiser FS). The installation is pretty straightforward and self explainatory. MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHICH PARTITION YOU ARE FORMATTING, SO YOU DON'T MAKE THE MISTAKE OF FORMATTING THE PARTITION YOU ACTUALLY USE!!

Protostar · Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:59 pm Post subject:

Korimyr the Rat wrote: I'm jealous. I've been trying to get it to work, but I can't get the Live CD to work with my video card, much less my wireless Internet.

I'm going to get someone else to help me, because I'm sick of how much of my system is being taken up by the OS.

What video card do you use (I'm assuming an ATI model)? And what wireless chipset does your wireless NIC/laptop have? I have a Broadcom chipset and had to use ndiswrapper to get my wireless working.

Sid · Joined: 26 Oct 2004 Posts: 4613 Location: Kansas

Protostar wrote: Sid wrote: Running it on a live CD.... Soooo fast, well, after setting up hardware... This is awesome. It took a little while to get my internet set up, and I have some things to learn, but this is awesome. My brother says that it's wayyyy faster if you just install it. I have a windows partition, and another unused NTFS partition, is there anyway I could isntall ubuntu on that? 'cause this is so awesome.

You cannot install Ubuntu on an NTFS partition. You can tell the Ubuntu installer to format it and use it as a Linux partition (my fav. is the Reiser FS). The installation is pretty straightforward and self explainatory. MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHICH PARTITION YOU ARE FORMATTING, SO YOU DON'T MAKE THE MISTAKE OF FORMATTING THE PARTITION YOU ACTUALLY USE!!

Thanks. :)

Sid · Joined: 26 Oct 2004 Posts: 4613 Location: Kansas

Well, I've started installing it, and here is the crucial point. It's asking me on which partition I want to install it. It lists four choices, and three of which I understand, two I don't want to do, and 2 I hope are the answers. The four choices are...

Resize ide1 master, partion #1 (hda1) and use freed space
Erase entire disk: IDE 1 master (hda) - 120.0 GB WDC WD1200 JB-00GV
Erase entire disk and use LVM: IDE1 (had) - 120.0 GB WDC
Manually edit partition table

The fourth seems somehow must and least agreeable at the same time.
The second and third, I get the feeling I don't want to do.
The first sounds like the second choice.

Anyway, aside from Jamming "Go Back" and just always boot from the live cd for fear of Ubuntu eating my files, can anyone tell me what I would do?

Keep in mind, I'm doing this on one physical drive with a partition.

Protostar · Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:52 am Post subject:

Sid wrote: Well, I've started installing it, and here is the crucial point. It's asking me on which partition I want to install it. It lists four choices, and three of which I understand, two I don't want to do, and 2 I hope are the answers. The four choices are...

Resize ide1 master, partion #1 (hda1) and use freed space
Erase entire disk: IDE 1 master (hda) - 120.0 GB WDC WD1200 JB-00GV
Erase entire disk and use LVM: IDE1 (had) - 120.0 GB WDC
Manually edit partition table

The fourth seems somehow must and least agreeable at the same time.
The second and third, I get the feeling I don't want to do.
The first sounds like the second choice.

Anyway, aside from Jamming "Go Back" and just always boot from the live cd for fear of Ubuntu eating my files, can anyone tell me what I would do?

Keep in mind, I'm doing this on one physical drive with a partition.

I have Ubuntu and Windows both on one drive as well. I usually don't worry about stuff on my internal HD, because I have everything of importance backed up on my external HD. You want to choose the 4th option. You donot want to resize hda1, which I assume is the Windows partition you use, as you said you had another unused NTFS partition available. After you select the 4th option, it will show a list of all partitions on the HD. Make sure you know exactly which one you are formatting, before you go ahead!!! After you choose the partition you want to format, the installer should create swap space automatically.

MAKE SURE YOU STAY AWAY FROM THE SECOND AND THIRD OPTIONS. CHOOSING THEM WILL WIPE YOUR ENTIRE HD AND INSTALL UBUNTU!!

Sid · Joined: 26 Oct 2004 Posts: 4613 Location: Kansas

=( Bootsector got all effed up, My files have just been digested by Ubuntu. Oh well, everything important I keep a copy of on my thumb drive, so it's not much of a big deal.

Ubuntu is awesome, it's so much faster than XP, and I haven't even gotten to a program where speed makes a difference. I'll have to learn a new OS, but everything else I've learned with computers I've learned out of necessity, this can't be to bad.

Pzatchok · Joined: 15 Nov 2004 Posts: 7642

After installing Linux and getting it to work with its own boot loader.

Use your wondows xp disk to fix the XP boot sector. This will give you back windows unaffected. Basicly the linux boot loader and the Xp boot loader get all fuzzed up and this messes with the Xp boot sector.

If you did the install to just the second partition leaving the first one alone then your all right. Thats how I do mine now.

Kt · Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 3806

Protostar wrote: Sid wrote: Running it on a live CD.... Soooo fast, well, after setting up hardware... This is awesome. It took a little while to get my internet set up, and I have some things to learn, but this is awesome. My brother says that it's wayyyy faster if you just install it. I have a windows partition, and another unused NTFS partition, is there anyway I could isntall ubuntu on that? 'cause this is so awesome.

You cannot install Ubuntu on an NTFS partition.
You can't?! That's lame! :lol:

Protostar · Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:14 am Post subject:

Sid wrote: =( Bootsector got all effed up, My files have just been digested by Ubuntu. Oh well, everything important I keep a copy of on my thumb drive, so it's not much of a big deal.

Ubuntu is awesome, it's so much faster than XP, and I haven't even gotten to a program where speed makes a difference. I'll have to learn a new OS, but everything else I've learned with computers I've learned out of necessity, this can't be to bad.

Did you tell the installer to overwrite the XP bootloader and write GRUB to the MBR?

Sid · Joined: 26 Oct 2004 Posts: 4613 Location: Kansas

Protostar wrote: Sid wrote: =( Bootsector got all effed up, My files have just been digested by Ubuntu. Oh well, everything important I keep a copy of on my thumb drive, so it's not much of a big deal.

Ubuntu is awesome, it's so much faster than XP, and I haven't even gotten to a program where speed makes a difference. I'll have to learn a new OS, but everything else I've learned with computers I've learned out of necessity, this can't be to bad.

Did you tell the installer to overwrite the XP bootloader and write GRUB to the MBR?

Yeah, but I already re-installed ubuntu. Like I said, all I lost is my save fales, so it's not that big a deal, but this ordeal did teach me something...

During a busy part of the school year when you have three essays that need to be typed.. Don't install an OS you know nothing about. :lol:

Sid · Joined: 26 Oct 2004 Posts: 4613 Location: Kansas

Good lord, I wonder if this is how my friends feel when they ask with help in windows. Anyway, I've got video running, I managed to get doom III running (woot), but the sound was all choppy. At that point I went looking around and found OSS sound, a utility that people said would fix it. Well, I installed it, but problem is, it says I'm missing some modules. I've found these modules on the CD, but I don't know how to install them, they're .deb files. Can somone inform me of how to install them? Thanks.

Protostar · Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:59 pm Post subject:

Sid wrote: Good lord, I wonder if this is how my friends feel when they ask with help in windows. Anyway, I've got video running, I managed to get doom III running (woot), but the sound was all choppy. At that point I went looking around and found OSS sound, a utility that people said would fix it. Well, I installed it, but problem is, it says I'm missing some modules. I've found these modules on the CD, but I don't know how to install them, they're .deb files. Can somone inform me of how to install them? Thanks.

The command for that is "sudo dpkg -i package.deb". Replace package with the name of the package. This should install the application.

Ragnar Danneskjold · Joined: 11 Oct 2005 Posts: 2628 Location: Mulligan's Valley

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/8932/12484ek.jpg

dosn't have anything to do with anything here, but i'm bored.

Korimyr the Rat · Joined: 11 Jan 2006 Posts: 983 Location: Wyoming

Protostar wrote: What video card do you use (I'm assuming an ATI model)?

ATI Radeon 7000. Friend of mine came over and confirmed that removing the video card does indeed cause the live CD to work.

Still can't get the wireless to work, but we're looking for the driver now. He's had this specific card working in another computer with Mandrake, so he's pretty optimistic about getting it to work with Ubuntu.

It's a D-Link AirPlusXtremeG (DWL-G520) if that helps.

Protostar wrote: And what wireless chipset does your wireless NIC/laptop have? I have a Broadcom chipset and had to use ndiswrapper to get my wireless working.

What is this "ndiswrapper", and how would I go about obtaining it?

Protostar · Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:37 pm Post subject:

Korimyr the Rat wrote: ATI Radeon 7000. Friend of mine came over and confirmed that removing the video card does indeed cause the live CD to work.

Still can't get the wireless to work, but we're looking for the driver now. He's had this specific card working in another computer with Mandrake, so he's pretty optimistic about getting it to work with Ubuntu.

It's a D-Link AirPlusXtremeG (DWL-G520) if that helps.

So I'm assuming your system has intergrated graphics? I would suggest downloading the fglrx driver, but I think that is only for the newer Radeon cards (don't know if the 7000 is supported). I'll check into it.

Korimyr the Rat wrote: What is this "ndiswrapper", and how would I go about obtaining it?

I can't really put into words what it does (even though I understand it) but here's a link to the Main Page:

http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/

In Ubuntu you can get it by opening up Synaptic and searching for "ndiswrapper". If it can't find it, you might need to enable some repositories. Here is a Wiki article here that explains how to do that:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesCliHowto?highlight=%28Repositories%29

Protostar · Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:40 pm Post subject:

Scratch the fglrx driver. I just read that it only supports card models 8500 or higher. You're probably would have to edit the Xorg.conf file in order it work.

Korimyr the Rat · Joined: 11 Jan 2006 Posts: 983 Location: Wyoming

Protostar wrote: So I'm assuming your system has intergrated graphics?

Only advantage of cheap off-the-shelf Compaqs, apparently.

Protostar wrote: I can't really put into words what it does (even though I understand it) but here's a link to the Main Page:

Thank you. This will give me some ground to start working on.

If I can get the damned wireless card to work, I can leave Windows behind once and for all. Which is kind've nice, since apparently my system will be incapable of running Vista.

dgs_vex · Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 117

actually i dont think Ubuntu is that impressive. i dont really care about security. i dont have anything that needs protection. nor do i hack or that stuff.

Ubuntu comes with really crappy software. but the freeware stuff like firefox and vlc player are ok. however you have no driver(if they go undectected). you will have to install themselves. plus i cant play games unless i get a emulator. i can slighly navagate using bash.

i preffer windows xp pro over Ubuntu because it has no real advantages i need. its fully customizable but then agian i can customize windows to suite my needs.

btw does Ubuntu suppord 3d rendering? cause i know that windows xp home cant.