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[Tracker]

My dog is very old. He is not in pain, but so rickety he can hardly stand. He is losing control of his bowels. I have to help him in most things he does.

I don't want him to suffer. He's very alert. Young in mind, but his body is failing him.

I don't know how to bring myself to kill him -- 'put to sleep' -- whatever, same thing.

It's hard.

Suggestions? Some 'uplifting' would be helpful -- it's so unfair, ya' know?

It feels like DisposalbePets.

[ieatfood]

Do what we do for humans when they die. Either quit your job to care for them at home or put them in a nursing home.

[Eternal]

Tracker wrote: My dog is very old. He is not in pain, but so rickety he can hardly stand. He is losing control of his bowels. I have to help him in most things he does.

I don't want him to suffer. He's very alert. Young in mind, but his body is failing him.

I don't know how to bring myself to kill him -- 'put to sleep' -- whatever, same thing.

It's hard.

Suggestions? Some 'uplifting' would be helpful -- it's so unfair, ya' know?

It feels like DisposalbePets.

I'm sorry to hear about your dog. Sounds like he might have arthritus, have you taken him to the vet yet as I'm sure they would be able to give him some kind of medication.

Hope he gets better.


Cheers, Eternal

[connermt]

Not an easy thing to go thru. I don't want to even think about it with my dog. That's a decision only you can make. If you do decide to put him asleep, make sure you are with him when it happens.

[Pebble]

Yeah, sorry to hear about your dog.

The best course of action would be to take Eternal's advice and take him to the vet, he/she should be able to help you.

[Tracker]

Yeah, I took to the vet.

I authorized the murder of my four-legged friend today.
Today, I played god?
- run through the pasture,
- and roll in the grass;
- - lay at my feet,
-- -- wearing a mask;
-- -- -- "Here I am!"
-- -- -- "You hate my smell,
-- -- -- "but it could be worse,
-- -- -- "accept me naturally, now?
-- -- -- "I'm not that horrible, am I?"
-- -- -- "and this helps us both 'cause I hate your smell worse,
-- -- -- "now you know smells are no curse?"


Did I punish my four-legged friend with chilling baths and chemical perfumes?
Do I always choose what's best?

And for that, I deserve a big BackAssAward.

They run in pastures,
They roll in grass and other things,
A different perfume, a mask, a shadow.
Because you stink.
Because we stink.
It goes in other directions,
But we always get it in reverse.

That's why I deserve that big BackAssAward.

It didn't have to be now.
It could have been later.
I chose today.
I authorized the murder, I can only imagine that's the only word to describe how it feels. Horrid.

To my Vet, hear my words:
It's not your fault.
I authorized this.
I am sorry to have you do it.
It's my fault. Not yours.
Only I am responsible, for I chose this.
You are forgiven, Vet.

To this system, experience my words:
We need find cures,
And you hold us back.
A big BackAssAward to that.

They run through pastures,
they roll on a masque,
Protecting And Serving,
Asking less in return than all other family and friends combined.
That's why I deserve that big BackAssAward.
Because these things we don't think about FIRST.

His name was Titan, his brother Zeus;
I grieved the first, an open wound.
They are both gone now.
Drowning in grief, I am.
I can't imagine life without them.
I can't imagine life without Zues.
I can't imagine life without Titan
And before, Sidartha, my cat.
And before, CheddarCheeser, another cat.
And after Sidartha, was Rhasta.

It all comes back to drown me with grief.
He looked at me, holding my eye: "Are you sure this is what you want to do?"
I looked away.
When I looked back, he looked AGAIN, longer, "This is what you want?"
When his heart stopped, my strength left me.
I collapsed,
I floundered,
I couldn't breath.
I collapsed,
I floundered,
I couldn't breath.
Guilt.
I feel horrid.

These friends are family,
These things I love,
These things are now gone.
Treasures.

Titan would run through pastures,
then roll-on a masque, when he was younger,
Then lay down beside me -- reminders I got in reverse.
But he ALWAYS was 'Protecting And Serving,'
Asking less in return than all other family and friends combined.
Could I have done more -- did I really put him out misery?

AS IT UNFOLDS -- these things happened today and the words came out just as you read them, in this way.

That's why I deserve that big BackAssAward. Do I?
Because these things I didn't think about FIRST.
Please forgive me.
Maybe I got 'playing god' in reverse. DOG.

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OnEdit: I meant "I can't imagine life without Titan," and I typed 'with' by accident.

I want to say that this is the only pet, a beloved family member, that I've ever 'put to sleep,' as the saying goes. All my other pets have died (except Sidartha who disappeared, AVID MicroChip ID#057841118; Siamese-X, seal-point, blue eyes, white feet, black 'smudge' on nose) -- anyway, all the others died from various health problems.

Titan, I authorised to be killed. He was 12. Bowel-control was sporadic. Very rickety and couldn't run or walk very far without extreme discomfort. I don't know what it would feel like to commit murder, or kill a person, but authorizing my dog to be 'put to sleep' feels like how that awful word, "murder," sounds. I just can't think of another word to describe it. I just feel horrid. If I had money, I could have afforded treatments to continue his life longer. But I don't. And I feel horrid.

[Tracker]

DisposalBePets

And this should be 'stickied' ... the topic of 'euthenasia.'

Nobody talks about it. Nobody cares about the Vet that has to do it. How do you think it makes THEM feel?

All euthenasias should be OVERSIGHTED by Vets, and the plunger pushed by the FamilyPetOwner.

It was like a piece of my life-force left me. I couldn't stand. All the color drained from my face. Maybe people who do this all the time don't think about it anymore. I never have. I never will again.

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OnEdit: possessive removed from 'euthenasia's'; I should change the word to how it feels, or at least how I think it must feel like: "family murder."

[Tracker]

I have to go dig a grave and burry Titan, now.

I asked for rain to thaw the ground.

It just worked out that way.

On your own land, you can have your own 'pet cemetery.' I don't think they allow that in the city.

I want to wait for rigors to be over. Nobody knows what that is, as it's some type of 'energy' holding 'living-cells' -- now DEAD -- rigid. It's IMPOSSIBLE, of course, according to all we know about science.

"Uploading of experiences," cell-by-cell, to the 'giant quantum computer' on the Moon that all we biological SIMULICRUMS are attached to, I guess. What's your THEORY?

[Pebble]

I'm sorry for your loss man. I know it won't mean much, but i'll say that anyway.

[Quicksurf]

I had to put to sleep an old dog I had as well, it was really tough. I know what you are going through. :cry:

[Tracker]

Thank you all for your thoughts.

The 'grief-cycle' is one of the hardest struggles humans must face, filled with guilt and sadness and personal anguish. I've never handled it very well. And I've had many losses -- but this is the first time I ordered euthenasia. I used a pick to break-through the frozen ground and dig a pit. I'll bury Titan tomrrow. I wish all who knew him were here. Even though I've railed against DeathWorship 'see me-ism' services -- this isn't the same.

Grief. I do try to handle it stoically. And your kind words are helping.

Kind Regards.

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We really do need to discuss pet-euthenasia, as 54,000,000 DisposalBePets are marched to gas-ovens annually. People are hired to do it. It makes them feel horrid, like I feel for having authorized a Vet to murder my dog -- a situation I would have given ANYTHING to have not done. Let-down, I am, and the price of that 'AfterBurn' just cost the life of my DOG. It's a NATIONAL DISGRACE -- a LegacyOfShame-factor -- and Vets and workers in the so-called 'humane-society' fields are turned into killers because as a Nation, we're too f***ing irresponsible and ESCAPE responsibility, and force others to do it. Now, I know personally. Even though I didn't just 'get rid of him' on a whim because I wanted a 'new model.' And I still feel horrid. Titan isn't hurting when walking or pooping in his bed anymore ... as embarassing as that is -- for dogs -- dogs feel extreme embarassment, too -- but it still feels like 'DisposalBePets.'

Why do they call it 'humane?' Because only humans can kill that way.

[Warmonger]

I'm sorry your dog died, man.

I know they can really grow on you. I had a dog, Daisy, that my dad got me when I was 5. She stuck around until I was 13 before she walked into the clearing at the end of her path.

I still think of her from time to time, because she brought lots of joy to my childhood. Though no other dog could ever "replace" Daisy, I have had other awesome pets since then. I hope you find another one soon.

[the_lizard_on_the_wall]

i had to kill my dog once, rabies. just shoot the poor critter. and if you dont have the balls, get some one else to do it. no pain. one moment, the dog is being petted and eating yummy food he cant normally have... next moment, doggy heaven.

[Enoch]

I've never had a dog, but I have had two cats which have both been put to sleep. The first cat was 18 years old and his eyesight was failing him, his arthritis had made him almost unable to move, and he had developed feline leukemia. The second cat was 5 and she had developed a tumor on her jaw that was growing so fast it was pushing her teeth out of her mouth and she couldn't eat.

Putting a pet to sleep is never an easy decision, and I am really sorry to hear about your dog Tracker.

[Tracker]

Thank you all for your kind words and thoughts.

I couldn't eat for a weak. And everytime I thought of it, my eyes filled with tears. Much better now.

Grief is hard. It takes the love and kindness of good people to overcome it. I thank all whom helped, in whatever way they could.

There was a video-article on CNN about the problem of dogs and the heartless people that do not spay/neuter, allowing more and more to roam, unattended and uncared for. This puts good people in the horrid situation of having to 'fix' the problem. The only tools at their disposal, is, well, 'disposal.' We all FORCE them to do THAT. It's a national shame.

[George W Bush]

talk to your pet. it'll help him and should help you. yours is supposed to be the last face they see. its all they want.
hang in there. animals die, and it s*cks.

[Kt]

George W Bush wrote: talk to your pet. it'll help him and should help you. yours is supposed to be the last face they see. its all they want.
hang in there. animals die, and it s*cks.
Dude, I think you're a little late, read the whole thread....

I decided to put my cat to sleep, He had renal failure and everything was pretty grim, I don't think it's the wrong thing to do, as far as he knows he is just falling asleep, no more pain, and I was there petting him and talking to him as it happened.

It'd be good if we could put humans to sleep.

[Tracker]

Yeah, he looked at me twice, as if to say, each time, "are you sure this the right thing to do?"

And the vet pushed the plunger and he immediately died. My head spun. I've never felt so horrid.

I can't stand the guilt. Everybody says it's the 'right thing to do." Yes, my dog was very old, could not run, could hardly walk, needed help to climb a single step, pooped in his bed ... sometimes on the truck-seat where I'd have to lift him in and out of it ... but he was alert, his body was just old. He's see a deer, get excited, take a few steps like a young dog, and stumble, and be sad because his body wouldn't move. He'd fall. He fell out of the truck, because someone had walked by, and he wanted to run over and say hello, but hit the ground so hard, he layed there as though dead, for fifteen minutes. I finally carefully picked him up ... and he weighed 105 lbs ... big yellow lab-ish ... so I picked him up, and carefully let him get his legs ... and he stumbled back to bed. It was down hill from there.

It was TIME, according to all. Past time, according to most. But I wouldn't feel guilty AT ALL if I were picking him up, helping him go potty, cleaning up after him if necessary, just a little longer, and he had died in his sleep or something of natural causes.

Grief is hard enough. I miss my old friendly dog, Titan. Guilt on top of it is truly horrid.

I am sharing this experience so others know IN ADVANCE what I did not.

[[Bible]Monkey]

It was hard, but you did what you had to do Tracker.

Quote: You can shed tears that he is gone
or you can smile because he lived.
You can close your eyes and pray that he'll come back
or you can open your eyes and see all he's left.
Your heart can be empty because you can't see him
or you can be full of the love you shared.
You can turn your back on tomorrow and live yesterday
or you can be happy for tomorrow because of yesterday.
You can remember him and only that he's gone
or you can cherish his memory and let it live on.
You can cry and lose your mind,
be empty and turn your back
or you can do what he'd want:
smile, open your eyes, love and go on.

(Author Unknown)

[Seapearl]

Tracker wrote: Thank you all for your thoughts.

The 'grief-cycle' is one of the hardest struggles humans must face, filled with guilt and sadness and personal anguish. I've never handled it very well. And I've had many losses -- but this is the first time I ordered euthenasia. I used a pick to break-through the frozen ground and dig a pit. I'll bury Titan tomrrow. I wish all who knew him were here. Even though I've railed against DeathWorship 'see me-ism' services -- this isn't the same.

Grief. I do try to handle it stoically. And your kind words are helping.

Kind Regards.

==================================================

We really do need to discuss pet-euthenasia, as 54,000,000 DisposalBePets are marched to gas-ovens annually. People are hired to do it. It makes them feel horrid, like I feel for having authorized a Vet to murder my dog -- a situation I would have given ANYTHING to have not done. Let-down, I am, and the price of that 'AfterBurn' just cost the life of my DOG. It's a NATIONAL DISGRACE -- a LegacyOfShame-factor -- and Vets and workers in the so-called 'humane-society' fields are turned into killers because as a Nation, we're too f***ing irresponsible and ESCAPE responsibility, and force others to do it. Now, I know personally. Even though I didn't just 'get rid of him' on a whim because I wanted a 'new model.' And I still feel horrid. Titan isn't hurting when walking or pooping in his bed anymore ... as embarassing as that is -- for dogs -- dogs feel extreme embarassment, too -- but it still feels like 'DisposalBePets.'

Why do they call it 'humane?' Because only humans can kill that way.

I know it must have been so difficult, so painful but you did what you had to do......I have a ten years old dog myself and I love him so much; he has always been so sensitive, his eyes, his teeth, he has had numerous surgeries. Last summer, he got very ill, we took him to the vet, he made some injections and suggested that we should put him some serosity because he was dehydrated. While waiting there for the serosity to end, holding the dog not to move, it was the first time that I lost consciousness.......Fortunately, he got well but I'm determined that if one day he suffers and can't stand living I'll resort to the vet although I know that this will be true hell for me. Thus my friend don't feel guilty or anything about it, you did the best you could do...