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[Melchior]

Seixon wrote: Melchior wrote: It's just a hot topic right now. Uh huh, but why?

That's the issue here. Why is it such a hot topic? Who has decided that it should be?

Because of the whole gay marriage controversy. The country has only recently started to recognize gay love as legitimate love, so it's a good subject to cover.

That doesn't mean the writer has some kind of agenda.

Seixon wrote: Melchior wrote: Like I said, it's a popular issue.

The media goes crazy about everything.

No, they don't. Why is it a popular issue? You're not helping by pointing out the obvious again.

See above^

And yes, the media takes every issue it covers to the point of oblivion.

That's not to say the issue isn't important or made less significant.

Seixon wrote: So an issue that affects only 1% of people is just as important as one that affects 50% of people? How do you figure?

If 80% of the people want fast food chains to give out free milkshakes... it's not gonna happen.

If 1% of the people is being denied milkshake service because of their race/religion/sex/politics/orientation/etc. That's an issue.

Seixon wrote: In that case, I can think of many other issues that affect only 1% of people that should also have as much publicity as homosexuality. Why aren't those just as popular?

Can you give me some specifics? The only kind of people I can think of with such a small population are Albino.

If people with albinism have something worthy to fight for, then sure it deserves coverage, and just as with the gay rights movement, if the problem isn't fixed it can last for as long as it needs to.

Anyway, I still don't believe the 1% figure, so I'm arguing hypothetically.

Seixon wrote: You can't seriously say that gay rights is as important as women's suffrage. If you were to have to choose between the two, which one would you choose first? In other words, which one would be more important?

I'll take that as a joke, I'm not going to choose between the two.



Seixon wrote: Melchior wrote: Besides Seixon, the topic of the thread is about some kind of agenda, and the idea that homosexuals shouldn't be on TV or in the Movies at all.

Where did the threadstarter say that?

Quote: the best thing for queers to do is keep it to them selves and quit forcing your belifes down our throughts

Sounds to me like he wants them off his TV.

Seixon wrote: He is saying that there is some kind of homosexual agenda being forced upon the public, and that it is highly unrepresentative of the population.

Right, that's what I said he said. :?

Seixon wrote: Usually popular things are due to the fact that it affects many people, or that it can be sold to many people, because it appeals to many people. How does homosexuality fit with either of those?

It affects homosexuals, bisexuals and lesbians, which make up a fair amount of people in the world.

It appeals to anyone who has been discriminated against because they are different.

Seixon wrote: Also, there is a big divide between gays (more) and lesbians (less) in the media. Why?

I don't know, I can only speculate. It doesn't make sense I agree.

Seixon wrote: As for the side discussions about marriage, I don't think there can be such a thing as gay marriage, since the Bible says that a man has to take a woman as his bride (one or more...). However, I don't think the Bible forbids you from being gay on its own.

I don't think the Bible applies to contracts under the law.

Gay marriage = Two men consent to a "marriage" contract.

Marriage = commitment or partnership between each-other, with certain conditions and agreements.

Seixon wrote: Have civil unions, and be done with it already.

What the hell is the difference? Why are you assigning them a whole other term for their social contract?

[Melchior]

Super Conservative! wrote: I'm curious: what qualifies someone as being gay?

~ Being attracted to men ~ < Only definition.

You can get married to a woman, have sex, have kids, and still be gay. It's just as easily the same vice-versa.

[00timh]

cool_chick wrote: 00timh wrote: cool_chick wrote: 00timh wrote: sublime wrote: Melchior wrote: Oh god.

First of all, I still don't believe that .1% figure, it's bulls**t.

Secondly, are you seriously complaining about the fact that homosexual characters are allowed on TV and in the Movies? That sounds incredibly prejudice, and ignorant to assume they there is a central agenda behind all of it.

Homosexuality is becoming a more relaxed, and more of a popular interest in both debate, acceptance, and fiction. What's difficult to grasp?

This percentage seems low to me, too. But the usual percentage quoted by the activists seems way too high. If it were true there would be well over 25-30 million Gays in this country. I don't believe there are that many.

Of course there is an agenda behind most of what Hollywood does these days. They have taken it upon themselves to hit all the LIBERAL HOT BUTTON ISSUES leading up to the 2006 elections.

The movie about the two cowboys was way out of date. Gays are no longer forced to live secret lives. So this was a throwback to the 1960s....by a generation that only knows and cares about the issues of their youth.........issues that are no longer "issues."

But you see they view these as issues that made them what they are today. Many only have jobs now because they work for organizations that keep the issues in front of the public. If the issues die, their jobs go away.

Hollywood is largely part of the Democrat Party, and it's a party which has failed to come up to the present and has nothing else that is SAFE to talk about. Their views on many things are now not acceptable to the public, such as their views on national security, so sticking with the old tried and true keeps them away from trouble. Besides, if they can CONVINCE Blacks, women, and Gays that they still are not accepted in society they will get more votes.

They are all living in the past because those issues have driven their lives; those issues made them feel important; and many now have a vested interest (such as Jesse Jackson) in making Americans believe they are still issues. Otherwise, he and thousands of others would be out of a job.

When they try to take on subject of geo-politics as they've done this past year, they show a simpletons view of the world. A world in which EVERYBODY is even in terms of guilt, for instance. A world in which whatever America did 30 or 40 years ago must now enter into the equation of what she now about terror, for instance.

Hollywood is largely made up of people inflated with their own importance in the world because sycophants and photographers follow them about. They believe we want their input on politics. We do not! Such good points which also shows a hypocricy. way back when carter was president, his medling was good. Clinton's too. Now Bush is furthering world peace and this time directly confronting the issue instead of playing footsie. Now they feel he is the problem.


LOL, you're kidding right? No. When Clinton and Carter were meddling in the middle east they were heros, Bush is a villain. None of their efforts brought us any peace. Terrorism isn't new.


Meddling, yes. "world peace" that's a joke.

You left out two presidents between Carter and Bush, (Bush I and Reagan) who were also "heroes" when meddling.

Meddling is bogus, but Bush's meddling goes to new and rediculous unwelcome heights. So if this is some sort of "victim" stance on your part, may I suggest you give it up? You may suggest it all you want but I won't. Reagan and Bush I were also considered villains by the hollywood elite. I am only talking about the Hollywood hypocricy here. Clearly you should be able to see it for what it is.

[cool_chick]

00timh wrote: cool_chick wrote: 00timh wrote: cool_chick wrote: 00timh wrote: sublime wrote: Melchior wrote: Oh god.

First of all, I still don't believe that .1% figure, it's bulls**t.

Secondly, are you seriously complaining about the fact that homosexual characters are allowed on TV and in the Movies? That sounds incredibly prejudice, and ignorant to assume they there is a central agenda behind all of it.

Homosexuality is becoming a more relaxed, and more of a popular interest in both debate, acceptance, and fiction. What's difficult to grasp?

This percentage seems low to me, too. But the usual percentage quoted by the activists seems way too high. If it were true there would be well over 25-30 million Gays in this country. I don't believe there are that many.

Of course there is an agenda behind most of what Hollywood does these days. They have taken it upon themselves to hit all the LIBERAL HOT BUTTON ISSUES leading up to the 2006 elections.

The movie about the two cowboys was way out of date. Gays are no longer forced to live secret lives. So this was a throwback to the 1960s....by a generation that only knows and cares about the issues of their youth.........issues that are no longer "issues."

But you see they view these as issues that made them what they are today. Many only have jobs now because they work for organizations that keep the issues in front of the public. If the issues die, their jobs go away.

Hollywood is largely part of the Democrat Party, and it's a party which has failed to come up to the present and has nothing else that is SAFE to talk about. Their views on many things are now not acceptable to the public, such as their views on national security, so sticking with the old tried and true keeps them away from trouble. Besides, if they can CONVINCE Blacks, women, and Gays that they still are not accepted in society they will get more votes.

They are all living in the past because those issues have driven their lives; those issues made them feel important; and many now have a vested interest (such as Jesse Jackson) in making Americans believe they are still issues. Otherwise, he and thousands of others would be out of a job.

When they try to take on subject of geo-politics as they've done this past year, they show a simpletons view of the world. A world in which EVERYBODY is even in terms of guilt, for instance. A world in which whatever America did 30 or 40 years ago must now enter into the equation of what she now about terror, for instance.

Hollywood is largely made up of people inflated with their own importance in the world because sycophants and photographers follow them about. They believe we want their input on politics. We do not! Such good points which also shows a hypocricy. way back when carter was president, his medling was good. Clinton's too. Now Bush is furthering world peace and this time directly confronting the issue instead of playing footsie. Now they feel he is the problem.


LOL, you're kidding right? No. When Clinton and Carter were meddling in the middle east they were heros, Bush is a villain. None of their efforts brought us any peace. Terrorism isn't new.


Meddling, yes. "world peace" that's a joke.

You left out two presidents between Carter and Bush, (Bush I and Reagan) who were also "heroes" when meddling.

Meddling is bogus, but Bush's meddling goes to new and rediculous unwelcome heights. So if this is some sort of "victim" stance on your part, may I suggest you give it up? You may suggest it all you want but I won't. Reagan and Bush I were also considered villains by the hollywood elite. I am only talking about the Hollywood hypocricy here. Clearly you should be able to see it for what it is.


Oh baloney. Bush and Reagan were as much "villians" as Clinton and Carter were.

Good God dude.

[FCTE]

Who pays Hollywood any mind anyway?? They haven't come out with a good movie in at least a decade. This is why I read.

[Little Wimp]

cool_chick wrote: Little Wimp wrote: :thrhj: would the Bush bashers and locksteppers please take it to private messages :arrow: .

Yes, lets.....let's get back to gay bashing and discussing the paranoid "destruction" of society they cause.....that's so much more fun anyway....... Equate some movie about a gay couple to communism and the fearmongering is complete. :tu:

I left "fear monger" out in the previous post. Sorry. It's not so much the movie about a gay couple that exhibits a left-wing anti-family, anti-America agenda as it is a lineup of movies including: a movie about 2 homosexual Cowboys, a movie about a transsexual, a pro communism in Hollywood anti- McCarthy smear film, 2 movies sympathetic Islam extremism etc..... This is why people such as myself regard Hollywood as simply a propaganda vehicle, not as concerned about making money as they are about indoctrination.

By the way, I can make a case that Marxist intellectuals have used homosexuality as a vehicle to achieve their ends, but I believe you to be far too intellectually dishonest to admit it. Therefore it's not worth my time.

[00timh]

cool_chick wrote: 00timh wrote: cool_chick wrote: 00timh wrote: cool_chick wrote: 00timh wrote: sublime wrote: Melchior wrote: Oh god.

First of all, I still don't believe that .1% figure, it's bulls**t.

Secondly, are you seriously complaining about the fact that homosexual characters are allowed on TV and in the Movies? That sounds incredibly prejudice, and ignorant to assume they there is a central agenda behind all of it.

Homosexuality is becoming a more relaxed, and more of a popular interest in both debate, acceptance, and fiction. What's difficult to grasp?

This percentage seems low to me, too. But the usual percentage quoted by the activists seems way too high. If it were true there would be well over 25-30 million Gays in this country. I don't believe there are that many.

Of course there is an agenda behind most of what Hollywood does these days. They have taken it upon themselves to hit all the LIBERAL HOT BUTTON ISSUES leading up to the 2006 elections.

The movie about the two cowboys was way out of date. Gays are no longer forced to live secret lives. So this was a throwback to the 1960s....by a generation that only knows and cares about the issues of their youth.........issues that are no longer "issues."

But you see they view these as issues that made them what they are today. Many only have jobs now because they work for organizations that keep the issues in front of the public. If the issues die, their jobs go away.

Hollywood is largely part of the Democrat Party, and it's a party which has failed to come up to the present and has nothing else that is SAFE to talk about. Their views on many things are now not acceptable to the public, such as their views on national security, so sticking with the old tried and true keeps them away from trouble. Besides, if they can CONVINCE Blacks, women, and Gays that they still are not accepted in society they will get more votes.

They are all living in the past because those issues have driven their lives; those issues made them feel important; and many now have a vested interest (such as Jesse Jackson) in making Americans believe they are still issues. Otherwise, he and thousands of others would be out of a job.

When they try to take on subject of geo-politics as they've done this past year, they show a simpletons view of the world. A world in which EVERYBODY is even in terms of guilt, for instance. A world in which whatever America did 30 or 40 years ago must now enter into the equation of what she now about terror, for instance.

Hollywood is largely made up of people inflated with their own importance in the world because sycophants and photographers follow them about. They believe we want their input on politics. We do not! Such good points which also shows a hypocricy. way back when carter was president, his medling was good. Clinton's too. Now Bush is furthering world peace and this time directly confronting the issue instead of playing footsie. Now they feel he is the problem.


LOL, you're kidding right? No. When Clinton and Carter were meddling in the middle east they were heros, Bush is a villain. None of their efforts brought us any peace. Terrorism isn't new.


Meddling, yes. "world peace" that's a joke.

You left out two presidents between Carter and Bush, (Bush I and Reagan) who were also "heroes" when meddling.

Meddling is bogus, but Bush's meddling goes to new and rediculous unwelcome heights. So if this is some sort of "victim" stance on your part, may I suggest you give it up? You may suggest it all you want but I won't. Reagan and Bush I were also considered villains by the hollywood elite. I am only talking about the Hollywood hypocricy here. Clearly you should be able to see it for what it is.


Oh baloney. Bush and Reagan were as much "villians" as Clinton and Carter were.

Good God dude. I'm trying to somewhat stay on the topic of this thread and talk about Hollywood.

As for hollywood, they are going to new lows in terms of trying to preach to the average American about their brand of morality. Sublime made a brilliant point about how they are diging up old hatred and issues to kep their cause alive and make themselves feel good. Sometimes you see people figuratevely looking under rocks to find racism and homophobia and then going AHA! This entire year has been about their preaching of their issues and besides, there are far more homosexuals in the industry than in the average community. they are pandering to their base and interests now more than ever. It doesn't mean they shouldn't make movies that have gay characters or even entire movies based on it but to do so and then watch them give all the awards to these movies and pat themselves on the back for being brave is sometimes nauseating to watch.

[cool_chick]

Little Wimp wrote: cool_chick wrote: Little Wimp wrote: :thrhj: would the Bush bashers and locksteppers please take it to private messages :arrow: .

Yes, lets.....let's get back to gay bashing and discussing the paranoid "destruction" of society they cause.....that's so much more fun anyway....... Equate some movie about a gay couple to communism and the fearmongering is complete. :tu:

I left "fear monger" out in the previous post. Sorry. It's not so much the movie about a gay couple that exhibits a left-wing anti-family, anti-America agenda as it is a lineup of movies including: a movie about 2 homosexual Cowboys, a movie about a transsexual, a pro communism in Hollywood anti- McCarthy smear film, 2 movies sympathetic Islam extremism etc..... This is why people such as myself regard Hollywood as simply a propaganda vehicle, not as concerned about making money as they are about indoctrination.

By the way, I can make a case that Marxist intellectuals have used homosexuality as a vehicle to achieve their ends, but I believe you to be far too intellectually dishonest to admit it. Therefore it's not worth my time.


Oh gawd, such drama! :roll:

I see what you mean...I'm indoctrinated......because of a movie about a gay couple ore one's view about McCarthy, or a......the horrors.....transsexual film, I've this desire to be a communist now. It's all clear. We're going to be communist in 5 years because of a couple movies........oh the fear.......

Dude, if you take nothing-but-entertainment that literally and view it something other than it is, entertainment, then it is you with the problem.

[cool_chick]

00timh wrote: cool_chick wrote: 00timh wrote: cool_chick wrote: 00timh wrote: cool_chick wrote: 00timh wrote: sublime wrote: Melchior wrote: Oh god.

First of all, I still don't believe that .1% figure, it's bulls**t.

Secondly, are you seriously complaining about the fact that homosexual characters are allowed on TV and in the Movies? That sounds incredibly prejudice, and ignorant to assume they there is a central agenda behind all of it.

Homosexuality is becoming a more relaxed, and more of a popular interest in both debate, acceptance, and fiction. What's difficult to grasp?

This percentage seems low to me, too. But the usual percentage quoted by the activists seems way too high. If it were true there would be well over 25-30 million Gays in this country. I don't believe there are that many.

Of course there is an agenda behind most of what Hollywood does these days. They have taken it upon themselves to hit all the LIBERAL HOT BUTTON ISSUES leading up to the 2006 elections.

The movie about the two cowboys was way out of date. Gays are no longer forced to live secret lives. So this was a throwback to the 1960s....by a generation that only knows and cares about the issues of their youth.........issues that are no longer "issues."

But you see they view these as issues that made them what they are today. Many only have jobs now because they work for organizations that keep the issues in front of the public. If the issues die, their jobs go away.

Hollywood is largely part of the Democrat Party, and it's a party which has failed to come up to the present and has nothing else that is SAFE to talk about. Their views on many things are now not acceptable to the public, such as their views on national security, so sticking with the old tried and true keeps them away from trouble. Besides, if they can CONVINCE Blacks, women, and Gays that they still are not accepted in society they will get more votes.

They are all living in the past because those issues have driven their lives; those issues made them feel important; and many now have a vested interest (such as Jesse Jackson) in making Americans believe they are still issues. Otherwise, he and thousands of others would be out of a job.

When they try to take on subject of geo-politics as they've done this past year, they show a simpletons view of the world. A world in which EVERYBODY is even in terms of guilt, for instance. A world in which whatever America did 30 or 40 years ago must now enter into the equation of what she now about terror, for instance.

Hollywood is largely made up of people inflated with their own importance in the world because sycophants and photographers follow them about. They believe we want their input on politics. We do not! Such good points which also shows a hypocricy. way back when carter was president, his medling was good. Clinton's too. Now Bush is furthering world peace and this time directly confronting the issue instead of playing footsie. Now they feel he is the problem.


LOL, you're kidding right? No. When Clinton and Carter were meddling in the middle east they were heros, Bush is a villain. None of their efforts brought us any peace. Terrorism isn't new.


Meddling, yes. "world peace" that's a joke.

You left out two presidents between Carter and Bush, (Bush I and Reagan) who were also "heroes" when meddling.

Meddling is bogus, but Bush's meddling goes to new and rediculous unwelcome heights. So if this is some sort of "victim" stance on your part, may I suggest you give it up? You may suggest it all you want but I won't. Reagan and Bush I were also considered villains by the hollywood elite. I am only talking about the Hollywood hypocricy here. Clearly you should be able to see it for what it is.


Oh baloney. Bush and Reagan were as much "villians" as Clinton and Carter were.

Good God dude. I'm trying to somewhat stay on the topic of this thread and talk about Hollywood.

As for hollywood, they are going to new lows in terms of trying to preach to the average American about their brand of morality. Sublime made a brilliant point about how they are diging up old hatred and issues to kep their cause alive and make themselves feel good. Sometimes you see people figuratevely looking under rocks to find racism and homophobia and then going AHA! This entire year has been about their preaching of their issues and besides, there are far more homosexuals in the industry than in the average community. they are pandering to their base and interests now more than ever. It doesn't mean they shouldn't make movies that have gay characters or even entire movies based on it but to do so and then watch them give all the awards to these movies and pat themselves on the back for being brave is sometimes nauseating to watch.

Dude, a movie about two gay guys is not doing what you're claiming here. It's a freaking movie! If you don't want to see it, don't go. But instead of not going, you want to force YOUR views on others by censorship. Sorry bud, you lose. Iran may be a better place for you. I do not feel threatened. This movie affects me ZERO. I could care less. If they want to make a movie about gay cowboys, who gives a sh!t? Why should I care? My life is still just the way it has always been, as it was 10 years ago, as it was 20 years ago, moral, happy, and well adjusted.

How has your life changed in light of things like this movie? Are you less moral now? Are your children little immoral beings? Do they not have family values because of things like this movie?

[passing1]

Ewrue The Veracious wrote: Why do hollywood producers insist on only markiting and produsing movies about Queers. why must everything inthe world include less than .1% of the population every T.V. show has a queer on it there have been several movies about queer shepards in wyoming. I lived in wyoming there are now queers there lots of shepards however, but that is beside the point. the more crap that media pumps out about queers the more i dislike their cause. the best thing for queers to do is keep it to them selves and quit forcing your belifes down our throughts or i might just start focing my catholic views down your throat.

You have to understand the creative process: The best films and music lyrics come from people's personal experience...

As a writer, most of what you write is either directly or indirectly from your own experience...

My second job in L.A. was at a theatre centre downtown that put on plays. 40% of the employees were gay...

As far as percentage, that was very, very high, but the percentage of gays behind the scenes in the movie business: Writers, directors, casting, producers, and on the other side, yes-actors: Is a much higher percentage than in the general public...

The newest trend of acceptance in Hollywood is bi-sexuality, which isn't the same as gay, but is tolerent of gays for obvious reasons...

So you have an environment in Hollywood where gays are not judged, and a lot of gays and bi-sexuals are creating the material for actors to perform...

Here's the point: Whether it be blacks in music and movies, hispanics, women or gays, each group fights to get their art made and sold...

I don't think gay producers and studio execs sit around a table and contemplate the takeover of American pop culture, but like any other minority group, they want to have their place there without persecution, and with acceptance...

You say 1% of the population is gay, even though that number is way off...

But the point is, what you are witnessing is a minority group with a tradition of being persecuted follow a beaten path of acceptance: They are putting a human face to their image and breaking down stereotypes, and using the entertainment industry to project these images...

I don't think they care one bit if you turn gay or not...that's not their agenda.

[Little Wimp]

cool_chick wrote: Little Wimp wrote: cool_chick wrote: Little Wimp wrote: :thrhj: would the Bush bashers and locksteppers please take it to private messages :arrow: .

Yes, lets.....let's get back to gay bashing and discussing the paranoid "destruction" of society they cause.....that's so much more fun anyway....... Equate some movie about a gay couple to communism and the fearmongering is complete. :tu:

I left "fear monger" out in the previous post. Sorry. It's not so much the movie about a gay couple that exhibits a left-wing anti-family, anti-America agenda as it is a lineup of movies including: a movie about 2 homosexual Cowboys, a movie about a transsexual, a pro communism in Hollywood anti- McCarthy smear film, 2 movies sympathetic Islam extremism etc..... This is why people such as myself regard Hollywood as simply a propaganda vehicle, not as concerned about making money as they are about indoctrination.

By the way, I can make a case that Marxist intellectuals have used homosexuality as a vehicle to achieve their ends, but I believe you to be far too intellectually dishonest to admit it. Therefore it's not worth my time.


Oh gawd, such drama! :roll:

I see what you mean...I'm indoctrinated......because of a movie about a gay couple ore one's view about McCarthy, or a......the horrors.....transsexual film, I've this desire to be a communist now. It's all clear. We're going to be communist in 5 years because of a couple movies........oh the fear.......

Dude, if you take nothing-but-entertainment that literally and view it something other than it is, entertainment, then it is you with the problem.
. It's not about being indoctrinated into communism or the Marxist state of mind. As if one watches enough of the garbage it comes out of Hollywood somehow they will become Vladimir Lenin. That is not what I'm saying at all. The agenda currently being pursued by Hollywood is the 1 of social upheaval - attacking anything considered to be traditional or the societal norm, ripping it down so a "new" society can be built in its place..

That's the big problem about the Marxist left. These Idiots are still pursuing an agenda of destroying the West via the avenues that I have mentioned earlier, yet the ideology that they embrace and hope to see fill the void once their social revolution is complete is an ideology that is a proven complete failure. . Cultural Marxists will continue plan A: destroy the hegemonies of the West, without a plan B waiting in the wings.

[Shady]

If you don't like what Hollywood is peddling- don't buy it. It's as simple as that.

[letsgooilers]

Ewrue The Veracious wrote: Melchior wrote: Ewrue The Veracious wrote: go find a cenuse report and get the real numbers if you feel so inclined i was just guessing but i doubt it is even 1% population that is queer.

Census forms are meant to burn.

I have been around, homosexuals are everywhere. Walk into any bar/club/restaurant in any city, you'll meet a few.

Ewrue The Veracious wrote: why do i have to hear about my narrowmindedness frome somebody who is narrowminded i am not predudice you are callin names my friend so you are preduduce.

Whoa, ever heard of these?: ,

I said your post was prejudice, because you are basically telling me homosexual characters shouldn't be allowed on TV and in Cinema.

That's what I got from your post, correct me if that's wrong.

Ewrue The Veracious wrote: all i am saying is that the queer agenda is going to doom the queer population when a minority especially one so out of the mainstreem starts pushing the majority around and fanning the flames then they will be pushed back.

There is no "queer agenda"

Stop saying that, all homosexuals want is to attain equality under that law, in society, and to go on with their lives.

Brokeback Mountain is JUST A MOVIE. Maybe it's a good movie, maybe it's a bad movie, but it's a MOVIE nonetheless.

Ewrue The Veracious wrote: besides the queer agenda is seeking the demise of the church so they are not even following their own retoric.

WTF?

Link?

Proof?

I have never heard of the "outright citizens for the end of religious practice" organization. That wouldn't make sense anyway, seeing as how many gays are religious.

Ewrue The Veracious wrote: if queers can speak simbly of god cherches can too and if that means telling them that wicked people burn in hell then they have as much right to say that as anyone else and queers should never get an apology from the pope or the cahtolic chuch or any other religion the bible should not be rewritten for them.

You just aren't making sense anymore. gay people are religiouse true happy people are religious

now for some vocabulary

gay 1. happy and carefree: jolly 2. brightly colored or ornamintal 3.jaunty: sporty 4. full of or given to lighthearted plesure 5. raskish; libertine. also see gayness.

Homo: prefix meaning substantualy mixed.

Sexual: 1. of a sexual nature 2. agjictive discribing trait of a person (ie) sexualy mature, sexualy active

learn english it is a great language.

I will not point out the irony. I will not point out the irony. I will not point out the irony. Ah, screw it.

Funny that you should comment on someone else's english skills considering your own skills are quite poor.

[cool_chick]

Ok, let's take a look at all the movies released in 2005. How many are about gay people? What, 1.....maybe 2?

Yet in the 100s of releases, this 1 or 2 is "gay" or "shoving it down our throats"? They are not allowed to be in even ONE movie?

Look at the percentage compared to the whole. There's your 1% figure OP....and this time, the 1% figure is accurate!



January 2005
Appleseed
The Chorus
Coach Carter
Elektra
Racing Stripes
Freeze Frame
Assault on Precinct 13
Are We There Yet?
Beautiful Boxer
Head-On
Monsieur M.
She's One of Us
Watermarks
Aliens of the Deep
Alone In The Dark
Beyond the Gates
Fascination
Hide and Seek
Lost Embrace
Sharks 3D
Travellers and Magicians

February 2005

Daybreak
The World's Fastest Indian
Assisted Living
Bendito Infierno
Boogeyman
Nobody Knows
The Nomi Song
Rory O'Shea Was Here
Swimming Upstream
The Wedding Date

The Wild Parrots of Telegraph Hill
Bride and Prejudice
Hitch
INSIDE Deep Throat
Laura's Star
My Mother's Smile
National Lampoon's Blackball
Ong Bak: Muay Thai Warrior
Pooh's Heffalump Movie
Uncle Nino
Alexandra's Project
Because of Winn-Dixie
Bigger Than the Sky
Constantine
Downfall
Harry and Max
Imaginary Heroes
Schultze Gets the Blues
Sky Blue
Son of the Mask
Turtles Can Fly
Bewafaa
Cursed
Diary of a Mad Black Woman
Man of the House
The Other Side of the Street
Up and Down
With Friends Like These


March 2005

The Best of Youth
Be Cool
Dear Frankie
Emile
Face
Gunner Palace
The Jacket
The Pacifier
Walk on Water
The Boys and Girl From County Claire
Don't Move
Dot the I
Hostage
In My Country
Mail Order Wife
Millions
Night of Henna
Off the Map
The Passion Recut
Robots
The Upside of Anger
Reeker
16 Years of Alcohol
Ice Princess
Melinda and Melinda
The Rider Named Death
The Ring Two
Schizo
Steamboy
Mondovino
Miss Congeniality 2: Armed and Fabulous
The Ballad of Jack and Rose
D.E.B.S.
Dallas 362
Guess Who
Lipstick & Dynamite: The First Ladies of Wrestling
Mickybo and Me
Naked Fame
Nina's Tragedies
Oldboy
One Night With the King
Beauty Shop
Dust to Glory
The Great Mughal
Kontroll
Look at Me
Sin City
Chrystal
Eros
Fever Pitch
Happily Ever After
A Hole in My Heart
In The City
Kung Fu Hustle
Sahara
Smile
Winter Solstice
Palindromes
State Property 2
The Amityville Horror
Double Dare
Down and Derby
House of D
It's All Gone Pete Tong
Perlasca
Torremolinos 73
Up for Grabs
A Wake in Providence
The Year of the Yao
Save the Green Planet
Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room
The Game of Their Lives
The Interpreter
King's Ransom
The League of Gentlemen's Apocalypse
A Lot Like Love
Madison
The Man Who Copied
Off to War
One Missed Call
Waqt
The L.A. Riot Spectacular
3-Iron
A Tout De Suite
Death of a Dynasty
Finding Home
Funny Ha Ha
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
The Holy Girl
Ladies in Lavender
Machuca
XXX: State of the Union
Man-Thing


May 2005
Colour Me Kubrick
Writer of O
Andrew and Jeremy Get Married
Brothers
Citizen Verdict
Crash
Fighting Tommy Riley
A Hole in One
House of Wax
Jiminy Glick in Lalawood
Kingdom Of Heaven
Le Grand Role
Modigliani
Mysterious Skin
Lemming
Man to Man
Kicking and Screaming
Kings and Queen
Layer Cake
Ma Mere
Mad Hot Ballroom
Mindhunters
Monster-in-Law
Tell Them Who You Are
Unleashed
Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith
Dominion: Prequel to the Exorcist
Second Best
Sex, Politics & Cocktails
Bomb the System
Bunty Aur Babli
A League of Ordinary Gentlemen
The Longest Yard
Madagascar
The Ninth Day
Saving Face
Sequins
My Brother
Operetta tanuki goten



June 2005
Or (My Treasure)
The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants
Après Vous
Caterina in the Big City
Cinderella Man
Deep Blue
Lords of Dogtown
Milwaukee, Minnesota
Pure
Rock School
5x2
The Adventures of Shark Boy & Lava Girl in 3-D
The Bridge of San Luis Rey
Calvaire
High Tension
The Honeymooners
Howl's Moving Castle
McLibel
Mr. and Mrs. Smith
Parineeta
Batman Begins
The Great Water
Heights
Me and You and Everyone We Know
My Summer of Love
The Perfect Man
The Talent Given Us
Herbie: Fully Loaded
Bewitched
George A. Romero's Land of the Dead
The Last Mogul
Lila Says
March of the Penguins
Rize
Yes
Tropical Malady
War of the Worlds


July 2005
The Beat That My Heart Skipped
Julie Johnson
Rebound
Rip Cage
Twist of Faith
Undead
The World
Punk: Attitude
The Beautiful Country
Cronicas
Dark Water
Fantastic Four
Murderball
Saraband
Steve and Sky
Dracula III: Legacy
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
God's Sandbox
Happy Endings
Memories of Murder
The Pearl
The Reception
The Warrior
Wedding Crashers
9 Songs
Bad News Bears
The Devil's Rejects
The Edukators
Hustle and Flow
The Island
Last Days
Monumental: David Brower's Fight for Wild America
November
Viruddh
The Aristocrats
Balzac and the Little Chinese Seamstress
Must Love Dogs
Oyster Farmer
Sky High
Stealth
Tony Takitani


August 2005
Junebug
This Divided State
2046
Bailey's Billion$
Broken Flowers
The Chumscrubber
The Dukes of Hazzard
My Date With Drew
Saint Ralph
Secuestro Express
Chaos
A State of Mind
Asylum
Balls
Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo
Football Days
Four Brothers
The Goebbels Experiment
The Great Raid
Grizzly Man
Mangal Pandey - The Rising
Pretty Persuasion
The Skeleton Key
Spirit Trap
Piccadilly Cowboy
Reel Paradise
Supercross
The Untold Story of Emmett Louis Till
The 40 Year Old Virgin
El Crimen Perfecto
Now & Forever
Red Eye
Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance
Valiant
The Baxter
The Brothers Grimm
The Cave
Dirty Deeds
Eternal
Formula 17
The Memory of a Killer
The Mighty Celt
Undiscovered
The Constant Gardener
Games of Love and Chance
Giuliani Time
William Eggleston in the Real World



September 2005
The Business
Margaret Cho: The Assassin Tour
A Sound of Thunder
Three Dancing Slaves
The Transporter 2
Underclassman
Carlito's Way: The Rise to Power
Touch the Sound
An Unfinished Life
Cote D'Azur (Crustacés et Coquillages)
Eve and the Fire Horse
The Exorcism of Emily Rose
Green Street Hooligans
Kamikaze Girls
Keane
Make It Funky!
The Man
Mobsters and Mormons
Music from the Inside Out
Salaam Namaste
Steal Me
Lucid
The Future of Food
Cry_Wolf
Everything is Illuminated
G
Hard Goodbyes: My Father
HellBent
Human Error
Just Like Heaven
Lord of War
One Bright Shining Moment
Proof
Separate Lies
The Thing About My Folks
Thumbsucker
Tim Burton's Corpse Bride
Trilogy: The Weeping Meadow
Venom
Boy Eats Girl
Daltry Calhoun
Dear Wendy
Dirty Love
Dorian Blues
Flightplan
A History of Violence
Into the Fire
Magnificent Desolution: Walking on the Moon 3D
Occupation: Dreamland
Oliver Twist
Roll Bounce
Forty Shades of Blue
The Prize Winner of Defiance, Ohio
Capote
Duma
Going Shopping
The Greatest Game Ever Played
Into the Blue
Little Manhattan
MirrorMask
Screen Door Jesus
Serenity
Sueño
Three Days of Rain
The War Within



October 2005
Death Tunnel
The Squid and the Whale
Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit
The Overture
Aggressives,The
Before the Fall
Dandelion
Good Night, And Good Luck.
The Gospel
In Her Shoes
Rag Tale
Sacred Stage
Two For the Money
Waiting
Cruel World
Domino
Elizabethtown
The Fog
Guy X
Innocent Voices
Loggerheads
Nine Lives
The President's Last Bang
Where the Truth Lies
Three of Hearts
Ushpizin
After Innocence
Congo: White King, Red Rubber, Black Death
Doom
Dreamer: Inspired by a True Story
Emmanuel's Gift
Innocence
Kids in America
Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang
National Lampoon's Barely Legal
North Country
Protocols of Zion
The Roost
Shopgirl
Stay
Wasabi Tuna
The Work and the Glory: American Zion
Ballets Russes
Guarding Eddy
The Legend of Zorro
New York Doll
Paradise Now
The Passenger
Prime
Saw II
Three... Extremes
The Weather Man
Dog Soldiers: Fresh Meat



November 2005
Chicken Little
Christmas in the Clouds
The Comedians of Comedy
The Dying Gaul
Gay Sex in the 70s
I Love Your Work
Jarhead
National Lampoon's Adam & Eve
Show Me
States of Grace
Get Rich or Die Tryin'
Les Chevaliers du ciel
Pulse
Swenkas
Bee Season
Cape of Good Hope
Derailed
Duane Hopwood
Ellie Parker
Good Morning, Night
Lie with Me
Niagara Motel
Pride & Prejudice
Sarah Silverman: Jesus is Magic
Tennis, Anyone...?
Zathura
Havoc
Breakfast on Pluto
The Syrian Bride
Naughty or Nice
Zizek!
The Aryan Couple
Blackmail Boy
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
Private
Taj Mahal - An Eternal Love Story
Unveiled
Walk the Line
39 Pounds of Love
The Ice Harvest
In the Mix
Just Friends
Rent
Streets of Legend
Syriana
Yours, Mine & Ours
Down to the Bone
The Libertine
Mrs. Palfrey at the Claremont
The Boys of Baraka



December 2005
Aeon Flux
Be Here to Love Me: A Film About Townes Van Zandt
Far Side of the Moon
First Descent
Keeping Mum
The Kid & I
Transamerica
Brokeback Mountain
The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe
Ek Ajnabee
Isn't This a Time
Marebito
Memoirs of a Geisha
Mrs. Henderson Presents
Neal N' Nikki
Creep
The Grace Lee Project
Happy Here and Now
King Kong
The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada
The Tiger and the Snow
Electric Shadows
The Family Stone
Hoodwinked
Lassie
The Producers
Angel-A
Cheaper by the Dozen 2
Fun with Dick and Jane
The White Countess
Cache
Munich
The Ringer
Casanova
The Intruder
The New World
Rumor Has It...
Wolf Creek
Match Point
The Matador

[beachbum bob]

last time I looked, no one can force you to see a movie...whats the whining about again???

[letsgooilers]

FCTE wrote: Who pays Hollywood any mind anyway?? They haven't come out with a good movie in at least a decade. This is why I read.

try:

This show
or this show
or this show
or this show


And those are the ones that have come out in the last five years and I could think of off the top of my head.

[cool_chick]

beachbum bob wrote: last time I looked, no one can force you to see a movie...whats the whining about again???

Supposedly Hollywood is now turning us into communists through movies.

LOL

[Little Wimp]

cool_chick wrote: beachbum bob wrote: last time I looked, no one can force you to see a movie...whats the whining about again???

Supposedly Hollywood is now turning us into communists through movies.

LOL
No, it's the reality that Hollywood is a Marxist kabal set out to attack the traditions in societal norms of this nation with the hopes that it would make it easier to implement Marxism in a morally bankrupt culturally deficient America.. You're jumping to conclusions, I am not.

[letsgooilers]

Little Wimp wrote: cool_chick wrote: beachbum bob wrote: last time I looked, no one can force you to see a movie...whats the whining about again???

Supposedly Hollywood is now turning us into communists through movies.

LOL
No, it's the reality that Hollywood is a Marxist kabal set out to attack the traditions in societal norms of this nation with the hopes that it would make it easier to implement Marxism in a morally bankrupt culturally deficient America.. You're jumping to conclusions, I am not.

I'm really, really hoping that a joke. +p

[Little Wimp]

letsgooilers wrote: Little Wimp wrote: cool_chick wrote: beachbum bob wrote: last time I looked, no one can force you to see a movie...whats the whining about again???

Supposedly Hollywood is now turning us into communists through movies.

LOL
No, it's the reality that Hollywood is a Marxist kabal set out to attack the traditions in societal norms of this nation with the hopes that it would make it easier to implement Marxism in a morally bankrupt culturally deficient America.. You're jumping to conclusions, I am not.

I'm really, really hoping that a joke. +p
Sadly it isn't,... but your grammar is. :wink: