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[Melchior]

Ewrue The Veracious wrote: firstly your a biggot to for calling me a biggot

That makes no sense.

Ewrue The Veracious wrote: and secondly gay means happy not queer

Queer means STRANGE and is considered OFFENSIVE SLANG!

[Æ]

Ewrue The Veracious wrote: go find a cenuse report and get the real numbers if you feel so inclined i was just guessing but i doubt it is even 1% population that is queer. why do i have to hear about my narrowmindedness frome somebody who is narrowminded i am not predudice you are callin names my friend so you are preduduce. all i am saying is that the queer agenda is going to doom the queer population when a minority especially one so out of the mainstreem starts pushing the majority around and fanning the flames then they will be pushed back. besides the queer agenda is seeking the demise of the church so they are not even following their own retoric. if queers can speak simbly of god cherches can too and if that means telling them that wicked people burn in hell then they have as much right to say that as anyone else and queers should never get an apology from the pope or the cahtolic chuch or any other religion the bible should not be rewritten for them.
You're foaming at the mouth my friend. :lol:

Give me a ring after you've received your reality checker. :roll:

[Ewrue The Veracious]

Melchior wrote: Ewrue The Veracious wrote: firstly your a biggot to for calling me a biggot

[quote=That makes no sense.]
bulls**t people who call names are among biggots
Ewrue The Veracious wrote: and secondly gay means happy not queer

Queer means STRANGE and is considered OFFENSIVE SLANG!

stange means out of the ordinary and if your numbers are under 50% your out of the ordinary that is a factual statement backed by logic if your offended by a fact i am sorry but that dosen't make it un true i don't care who is offended just like nobody cares if i am offended, i don't get offended.

[foadi]

Ewrue The Veracious wrote: Melchior wrote: Ewrue The Veracious wrote: firstly your a biggot to for calling me a biggot

[quote=That makes no sense.]
bulls**t people who call names are among biggots
Ewrue The Veracious wrote: and secondly gay means happy not queer

Queer means STRANGE and is considered OFFENSIVE SLANG!

stange means out of the ordinary and if your numbers are under 50% your out of the ordinary that is a factual statement backed by logic if your offended by a fact i am sorry but that dosen't make it un true i don't care who is offended just like nobody cares if i am offended, i don't get offended.
Man, you're massively insecure with your sexuality if you disagree with Melchior in any way.

[Ewrue The Veracious]

Liberty4All wrote: Ewrue The Veracious wrote: go find a cenuse report and get the real numbers if you feel so inclined i was just guessing but i doubt it is even 1% population that is queer. why do i have to hear about my narrowmindedness frome somebody who is narrowminded i am not predudice you are callin names my friend so you are preduduce. all i am saying is that the queer agenda is going to doom the queer population when a minority especially one so out of the mainstreem starts pushing the majority around and fanning the flames then they will be pushed back. besides the queer agenda is seeking the demise of the church so they are not even following their own retoric. if queers can speak simbly of god cherches can too and if that means telling them that wicked people burn in hell then they have as much right to say that as anyone else and queers should never get an apology from the pope or the cahtolic chuch or any other religion the bible should not be rewritten for them.
You're foaming at the mouth my friend. :lol:

Give me a ring after you've received your reality checker. :roll: explain this remark it makes no sence. and you are the one who needs the reality check my friend for i am not the one who wants to potect the rights of happy people or samesex people if that makes any sence i just am here to discuss sexually queer agenda poloticts.

[Etienne]

Ewrue The Veracious wrote: Why do hollywood producers insist on only markiting and produsing movies about Queers. why must everything inthe world include less than .1% of the population every T.V. show has a queer on it there have been several movies about queer shepards in wyoming. I lived in wyoming there are now queers there lots of shepards however, but that is beside the point. the more crap that media pumps out about queers the more i dislike their cause. the best thing for queers to do is keep it to them selves and quit forcing your belifes down our throughts or i might just start focing my catholic views down your throat.

What exactly is the queer agenda? Is this the agenda where they have the right to marry their soul mates?

And I am pretty sure Hollywood released a movie or two that had nothing to do with homosexuality.

[gary the cheater]

Ewrue The Veracious wrote: Why do hollywood producers insist on only markiting and produsing movies about Queers. why must everything inthe world include less than .1% of the population every T.V. show has a queer on it there have been several movies about queer shepards in wyoming. I lived in wyoming there are now queers there lots of shepards however, but that is beside the point. the more crap that media pumps out about queers the more i dislike their cause. the best thing for queers to do is keep it to them selves and quit forcing your belifes down our throughts or i might just start focing my catholic views down your throat.

if you don't like the values you see on television then turn it off

[Ewrue The Veracious]

Etienne wrote: Ewrue The Veracious wrote: Why do hollywood producers insist on only markiting and produsing movies about Queers. why must everything inthe world include less than .1% of the population every T.V. show has a queer on it there have been several movies about queer shepards in wyoming. I lived in wyoming there are now queers there lots of shepards however, but that is beside the point. the more crap that media pumps out about queers the more i dislike their cause. the best thing for queers to do is keep it to them selves and quit forcing your belifes down our throughts or i might just start focing my catholic views down your throat.

What exactly is the queer agenda? Is this the agenda where they have the right to marry their soul mates?

And I am pretty sure Hollywood released a movie or two that had nothing to do with homosexuality. marrage is defind as matramony. matramony is the formation of a famaliy you cannot have a famaliy with out a mother and a father and a child this names mention sex very clearly you dn't have the right to marry anybody. marrage is a priveledge like driving or fishing because you have to have a lisense. sole mate can be your child your brother Jesus Christ or a farrari now all of those things are illigal to marry, reasons are, your child, would make you a pedafile and that is aginst the law, your brother, that is insest, Jesus Christ, he has no earthly body and that is nessasary to be legal, And a farrari is an object not a person.

you can't marry inside your own sex because the church defined marrage long ago as man and wife besides the marrid couple is called a bridegroom for the religious idea that they are a sengle body in God's eyes. now if your not religious what differance dose it make if you are wed. and if you are religious than you shouldn't be acosting your religion by doing someting compleatly aginst it.

it only matters for religious reasons i as a religious man am aginst queer marrage because they would be hijacking a solom sacramint and be blasfeming my church just like i don't walk into the middle of muslim culture wearing a thong and eating a pork sandwich

[Gremlin]

I like the dont ask dont tell idea....
....and dont touch me :twisted:


TV is getting pretty... ahh.. well... gay and MTV leads the pack.
I dont watch much TV except for Sundays in the winter, but when i flip threw the channels i get an impression that there is a lot of gay people on TV.

[Ewrue The Veracious]

gary the cheater wrote: Ewrue The Veracious wrote: Why do hollywood producers insist on only markiting and produsing movies about Queers. why must everything inthe world include less than .1% of the population every T.V. show has a queer on it there have been several movies about queer shepards in wyoming. I lived in wyoming there are now queers there lots of shepards however, but that is beside the point. the more crap that media pumps out about queers the more i dislike their cause. the best thing for queers to do is keep it to them selves and quit forcing your belifes down our throughts or i might just start focing my catholic views down your throat.

if you don't like the values you see on television then turn it off i turned off the T.V. long ago but i am bombarded by this by all the people i work with and i am trying to get through my day with out puking or thing about pervertion i just ask that queers keep it to them selves i have never seen a heterosexual pride parade or a christian pride parade because i keep it to my self unless asked.

[Ewrue The Veracious]

Gremlin wrote: I like the dont ask dont tell idea....
....and dont touch me :twisted:


TV is getting pretty... ahh.. well... gay and MTV leads the pack.
I dont watch much TV except for Sundays in the winter, but when i flip threw the channels i get an impression that there is a lot of gay people on TV. thank you it is an afront to our decentcy and breads moral degeneration.

[Seixon]

Melchior wrote: It's just a hot topic right now. Uh huh, but why? That's the issue here. Why is it such a hot topic? Who has decided that it should be?

Quote: Like I said, it's a popular issue.

The media goes crazy about everything. No, they don't. Why is it a popular issue? You're not helping by pointing out the obvious again.

Quote: Now that notion I don't agree with, 1% or 50%, a lower number in population doesn't mean a less significant cause. So an issue that affects only 1% of people is just as important as one that affects 50% of people? How do you figure? In that case, I can think of many other issues that affect only 1% of people that should also have as much publicity as homosexuality. Why aren't those just as popular?

You can't seriously say that gay rights is as important as women's suffrage. If you were to have to choose between the two, which one would you choose first? In other words, which one would be more important?

:wink:

Quote: Besides Seixon, the topic of the thread is about some kind of agenda, and the idea that homosexuals shouldn't be on TV or in the Movies at all. Where did the threadstarter say that? He is saying that there is some kind of homosexual agenda being forced upon the public, and that it is highly unrepresentative of the population.

Usually popular things are due to the fact that it affects many people, or that it can be sold to many people, because it appeals to many people. How does homosexuality fit with either of those?

Also, there is a big divide between gays (more) and lesbians (less) in the media. Why?

As for the side discussions about marriage, I don't think there can be such a thing as gay marriage, since the Bible says that a man has to take a woman as his bride (one or more...). However, I don't think the Bible forbids you from being gay on its own.

Have civil unions, and be done with it already.

[Gremlin]

Ewrue The Veracious wrote: Gremlin wrote: I like the dont ask dont tell idea....
....and dont touch me :twisted:


TV is getting pretty... ahh.. well... gay and MTV leads the pack.
I dont watch much TV except for Sundays in the winter, but when i flip threw the channels i get an impression that there is a lot of gay people on TV. thank you it is an afront to our decentcy and breads moral degeneration.


I dont think its fatal, but i fully agree that children should be shielded from this kind of stuff as if it were porno. They need to grow up and understand people-people relationships before they learn about anything sexual.... and gay is at the very root of sexual. Its at the boundary from one person to another as race and culture does.

If a generation gets exposed to what "gay" is at a young age its not fatal. The benefits will be tolerance, but there are far more negatives then positives.

[Etienne]

Ewrue The Veracious wrote: Etienne wrote: Ewrue The Veracious wrote: Why do hollywood producers insist on only markiting and produsing movies about Queers. why must everything inthe world include less than .1% of the population every T.V. show has a queer on it there have been several movies about queer shepards in wyoming. I lived in wyoming there are now queers there lots of shepards however, but that is beside the point. the more crap that media pumps out about queers the more i dislike their cause. the best thing for queers to do is keep it to them selves and quit forcing your belifes down our throughts or i might just start focing my catholic views down your throat.

What exactly is the queer agenda? Is this the agenda where they have the right to marry their soul mates?

And I am pretty sure Hollywood released a movie or two that had nothing to do with homosexuality. marrage is defind as matramony. matramony is the formation of a famaliy you cannot have a famaliy with out a mother and a father and a child this names mention sex very clearly you dn't have the right to marry anybody. marrage is a priveledge like driving or fishing because you have to have a lisense. sole mate can be your child your brother Jesus Christ or a farrari now all of those things are illigal to marry, reasons are, your child, would make you a pedafile and that is aginst the law, your brother, that is insest, Jesus Christ, he has no earthly body and that is nessasary to be legal, And a farrari is an object not a person.

So men and women who cannot have children should not be allowed to marry...because they cannot have children, and therefore cannot form a family?

2 unrelated consenting adults...who love each other, are committed to each other, who respect each other...they may not marry because they happen to be of the same sex? We are not talking about cars, or children, or animals, but rather consenting adults.

Quote: you can't marry inside your own sex because the church defined marrage long ago as man and wife besides the marrid couple is called a bridegroom for the religious idea that they are a sengle body in God's eyes. now if your not religious what differance dose it make if you are wed. and if you are religious than you shouldn't be acosting your religion by doing someting compleatly aginst it.

it only matters for religious reasons i as a religious man am aginst queer marrage because they would be hijacking a solom sacramint and be blasfeming my church just like i don't walk into the middle of muslim culture wearing a thong and eating a pork sandwich

And here you are forcing your religious views on people...

Why should marriages born out of economic convenience be valued more than a relationship between 2 people who love, honor, and respect each other? Why are arranged marriages recognized by the state, but homosexual relationships are not?

God loves us, and wants us to be happy...but not them gays?

[Ewrue The Veracious]

Etienne wrote: Ewrue The Veracious wrote: Etienne wrote: Ewrue The Veracious wrote: Why do hollywood producers insist on only markiting and produsing movies about Queers. why must everything inthe world include less than .1% of the population every T.V. show has a queer on it there have been several movies about queer shepards in wyoming. I lived in wyoming there are now queers there lots of shepards however, but that is beside the point. the more crap that media pumps out about queers the more i dislike their cause. the best thing for queers to do is keep it to them selves and quit forcing your belifes down our throughts or i might just start focing my catholic views down your throat.

What exactly is the queer agenda? Is this the agenda where they have the right to marry their soul mates?

And I am pretty sure Hollywood released a movie or two that had nothing to do with homosexuality. marrage is defind as matramony. matramony is the formation of a famaliy you cannot have a famaliy with out a mother and a father and a child this names mention sex very clearly you dn't have the right to marry anybody. marrage is a priveledge like driving or fishing because you have to have a lisense. sole mate can be your child your brother Jesus Christ or a farrari now all of those things are illigal to marry, reasons are, your child, would make you a pedafile and that is aginst the law, your brother, that is insest, Jesus Christ, he has no earthly body and that is nessasary to be legal, And a farrari is an object not a person.

So men and women who cannot have children should not be allowed to marry...because they cannot have children, and therefore cannot form a family?

2 unrelated consenting adults...who love each other, are committed to each other, who respect each other...they may not marry because they happen to be of the same sex? We are not talking about cars, or children, or animals, but rather consenting adults.

Quote: you can't marry inside your own sex because the church defined marrage long ago as man and wife besides the marrid couple is called a bridegroom for the religious idea that they are a sengle body in God's eyes. now if your not religious what differance dose it make if you are wed. and if you are religious than you shouldn't be acosting your religion by doing someting compleatly aginst it.

it only matters for religious reasons i as a religious man am aginst queer marrage because they would be hijacking a solom sacramint and be blasfeming my church just like i don't walk into the middle of muslim culture wearing a thong and eating a pork sandwich

And here you are forcing your religious views on people...

Why should marriages born out of economic convenience be valued more than a relationship between 2 people who love, honor, and respect each other? Why are arranged marriages recognized by the state, but homosexual relationships are not?

God loves us, and wants us to be happy...but not them gays? first no a man and a woman unrelated can merry. regardless of the ability to have chideren.

two people that fall in love don't ever just happen to be the same sex. you are born with your sex and you know from an eirly age that you are a boy or a girl and that girls and boys are differant the fact that some people prefer the same sex dosen't just happen they always wanted it that way if that was the way it worked why couldn't they happen not to fall in love and be friends?

and last i am not forcing my religios belifes on anybody a same sex marrage is focing my religion out of importants by saying that a merrage involves nobody else but the two being married and every marrage involves me and you.

[rytis]

Ewrue The Veracious wrote: Hollywood pushing queer agenda. that's for sure!

[Ewrue The Veracious]

Gremlin wrote: Ewrue The Veracious wrote: Gremlin wrote: I like the dont ask dont tell idea....
....and dont touch me :twisted:


TV is getting pretty... ahh.. well... gay and MTV leads the pack.
I dont watch much TV except for Sundays in the winter, but when i flip threw the channels i get an impression that there is a lot of gay people on TV. thank you it is an afront to our decentcy and breads moral degeneration.


I dont think its fatal, but i fully agree that children should be shielded from this kind of stuff as if it were porno. They need to grow up and understand people-people relationships before they learn about anything sexual.... and gay is at the very root of sexual. Its at the boundary from one person to another as race and culture does.

If a generation gets exposed to what "gay" is at a young age its not fatal. The benefits will be tolerance, but there are far more negatives then positives. i don't mean to say it is fatal but it will and is trying to bring down the pillars of religion

[Etienne]

Ewrue The Veracious wrote: Etienne wrote: Ewrue The Veracious wrote: Etienne wrote: Ewrue The Veracious wrote: Why do hollywood producers insist on only markiting and produsing movies about Queers. why must everything inthe world include less than .1% of the population every T.V. show has a queer on it there have been several movies about queer shepards in wyoming. I lived in wyoming there are now queers there lots of shepards however, but that is beside the point. the more crap that media pumps out about queers the more i dislike their cause. the best thing for queers to do is keep it to them selves and quit forcing your belifes down our throughts or i might just start focing my catholic views down your throat.

What exactly is the queer agenda? Is this the agenda where they have the right to marry their soul mates?

And I am pretty sure Hollywood released a movie or two that had nothing to do with homosexuality. marrage is defind as matramony. matramony is the formation of a famaliy you cannot have a famaliy with out a mother and a father and a child this names mention sex very clearly you dn't have the right to marry anybody. marrage is a priveledge like driving or fishing because you have to have a lisense. sole mate can be your child your brother Jesus Christ or a farrari now all of those things are illigal to marry, reasons are, your child, would make you a pedafile and that is aginst the law, your brother, that is insest, Jesus Christ, he has no earthly body and that is nessasary to be legal, And a farrari is an object not a person.

So men and women who cannot have children should not be allowed to marry...because they cannot have children, and therefore cannot form a family?

2 unrelated consenting adults...who love each other, are committed to each other, who respect each other...they may not marry because they happen to be of the same sex? We are not talking about cars, or children, or animals, but rather consenting adults.

Quote: you can't marry inside your own sex because the church defined marrage long ago as man and wife besides the marrid couple is called a bridegroom for the religious idea that they are a sengle body in God's eyes. now if your not religious what differance dose it make if you are wed. and if you are religious than you shouldn't be acosting your religion by doing someting compleatly aginst it.

it only matters for religious reasons i as a religious man am aginst queer marrage because they would be hijacking a solom sacramint and be blasfeming my church just like i don't walk into the middle of muslim culture wearing a thong and eating a pork sandwich

And here you are forcing your religious views on people...

Why should marriages born out of economic convenience be valued more than a relationship between 2 people who love, honor, and respect each other? Why are arranged marriages recognized by the state, but homosexual relationships are not?

God loves us, and wants us to be happy...but not them gays? first no a man and a woman unrelated can merry. regardless of the ability to have chideren.

Then why don't you extend this to gay men or women?

Quote: two people that fall in love don't ever just happen to be the same sex. you are born with your sex and you know from an eirly age that you are a boy or a girl and that girls and boys are differant the fact that some people prefer the same sex dosen't just happen they always wanted it that way if that was the way it worked why couldn't they happen not to fall in love and be friends?

Isn't this true for gay and straight people?

A man and a woman who have never met each other, do not love each other, are not committed to each other...are able to get married.

Two women who love each other, are committed to each other, respect and honor each other...they may not marry.

What reason do you have to deny gays the right to marry each other? Why are arranged marriages recognized by the state, but not gay relationships?

Quote: and last i am not forcing my religios belifes on anybody a same sex marrage is focing my religion out of importants by saying that a merrage involves nobody else but the two being married and every marrage involves me and you.

You are...you are defining marriage within a religious context. You are denying gays the right to marry each other based on your religious beliefs.

[Ewrue The Veracious]

religion is the foundation of all man kind's civilization regardless of your faith or lack thereof. rome, china, england, ottoman empire, africa southamerica northamerica all civilization came together on the consept of a higher power without religious faith and even athiests are religiously faithfull you heared me, without religion and faith we would be animals and no civilization would have ever come.

[Ewrue The Veracious]

Etienne wrote: Ewrue The Veracious wrote: Etienne wrote: Ewrue The Veracious wrote: Etienne wrote: Ewrue The Veracious wrote: Why do hollywood producers insist on only markiting and produsing movies about Queers. why must everything inthe world include less than .1% of the population every T.V. show has a queer on it there have been several movies about queer shepards in wyoming. I lived in wyoming there are now queers there lots of shepards however, but that is beside the point. the more crap that media pumps out about queers the more i dislike their cause. the best thing for queers to do is keep it to them selves and quit forcing your belifes down our throughts or i might just start focing my catholic views down your throat.

What exactly is the queer agenda? Is this the agenda where they have the right to marry their soul mates?

And I am pretty sure Hollywood released a movie or two that had nothing to do with homosexuality. marrage is defind as matramony. matramony is the formation of a famaliy you cannot have a famaliy with out a mother and a father and a child this names mention sex very clearly you dn't have the right to marry anybody. marrage is a priveledge like driving or fishing because you have to have a lisense. sole mate can be your child your brother Jesus Christ or a farrari now all of those things are illigal to marry, reasons are, your child, would make you a pedafile and that is aginst the law, your brother, that is insest, Jesus Christ, he has no earthly body and that is nessasary to be legal, And a farrari is an object not a person.

So men and women who cannot have children should not be allowed to marry...because they cannot have children, and therefore cannot form a family?

2 unrelated consenting adults...who love each other, are committed to each other, who respect each other...they may not marry because they happen to be of the same sex? We are not talking about cars, or children, or animals, but rather consenting adults.

Quote: you can't marry inside your own sex because the church defined marrage long ago as man and wife besides the marrid couple is called a bridegroom for the religious idea that they are a sengle body in God's eyes. now if your not religious what differance dose it make if you are wed. and if you are religious than you shouldn't be acosting your religion by doing someting compleatly aginst it.

it only matters for religious reasons i as a religious man am aginst queer marrage because they would be hijacking a solom sacramint and be blasfeming my church just like i don't walk into the middle of muslim culture wearing a thong and eating a pork sandwich

And here you are forcing your religious views on people...

Why should marriages born out of economic convenience be valued more than a relationship between 2 people who love, honor, and respect each other? Why are arranged marriages recognized by the state, but homosexual relationships are not?

God loves us, and wants us to be happy...but not them gays? first no a man and a woman unrelated can merry. regardless of the ability to have chideren.

Then why don't you extend this to gay men or women?

Quote: two people that fall in love don't ever just happen to be the same sex. you are born with your sex and you know from an eirly age that you are a boy or a girl and that girls and boys are differant the fact that some people prefer the same sex dosen't just happen they always wanted it that way if that was the way it worked why couldn't they happen not to fall in love and be friends?

Isn't this true for gay and straight people?

A man and a woman who have never met each other, do not love each other, are not committed to each other...are able to get married.

Two women who love each other, are committed to each other, respect and honor each other...they may not marry.

What reason do you have to deny gays the right to marry each other? Why are arranged marriages recognized by the state, but not gay relationships?

Quote: and last i am not forcing my religios belifes on anybody a same sex marrage is focing my religion out of importants by saying that a merrage involves nobody else but the two being married and every marrage involves me and you.

You are...you are defining marriage within a religious context. You are denying gays the right to marry each other based on your religious beliefs. first your parts have to match up that is nature two people of the same sex are not capable of becoming a bridegroom therefor the ceramony is pointless and the people are living in hypocrasy

second no it is not true for homos because they are not because it defys natue look at the anadamy

no marrage is defined in religion only nothing else defines it it is a blessed sacrament like communion or charity look it up it is not just a legal term.

gay people havent nor straight people the right to marry anybody that is not a right it is not in the constitution or the bill of rights there is no such right.

marrage is religious religios people made it up and you are married by a religious figure. it is religious as defined dy funk&wagnel.