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[Melchior]

Ewrue The Veracious wrote: The perpouse of the parts matching up is simple the anus is not an entry feces is supposed to leave the body through it and by putting body parts into that orafice you sperad desease.

Sounds like someone doesn't know about their prostate. :lol:

Anal sex isn't just some crazy idea someone thought up one day. It's ancient, intimate, and complex. It isn't even an exclusively homosexual practice, it's popular among heterosexuals even if they don't openly admit it.

So please, it's not worth debating. :roll:

[AnOpenMind]

By the way "Crash" won best picture instead of Brokeback Mountain, so maybe they aren't pushing a gay agenda as much as first thought.

[Ewrue The Veracious]

Etienne wrote: Ewrue The Veracious wrote: animals don't practice homosexuality when two puppies are humping that is a form of domination it is rape. the perpouse of the parts matching up is simple the anus is not an entry feces is supposed to leave the body through it and by putting body parts into that orafice you sperad desease. also childbirth procreation. you cannot have a family without a mother father or as it is called bridegroom.

First...

Quote: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanimal.html

But, actually, some same-sex birds do do it. So do beetles, sheep, fruit bats, dolphins, and orangutans. Zoologists are discovering that homosexual and bisexual activity is not unknown within the animal kingdom.


Roy and Silo, two male chinstrap penguins at New York's Central Park Zoo have been inseparable for six years now. They display classic pair-bonding behavior—entwining of necks, mutual preening, flipper flapping, and the rest. They also have sex, while ignoring potential female mates.

Wild birds exhibit similar behavior. There are male ostriches that only court their own gender, and pairs of male flamingos that mate, build nests, and even raise foster chicks.

And second...

You cannot have a family without a mother and a father? So again...people who can't have children shouldn't be able to marry, because they can't have children, and therefore can't form a family. It takes a mother and a father, and since they can't have children, they can't be a mother and a father.

Quote: how can you steal a religious sacramint from all the churches and say it is a legal contract. a barmitsva is not a legal contract first communion is not a legal contract tething is not a legal contract. by the homosexuals stealing our sacrament they are stomping on my belifes and that isn't illigal but that is why i am aginst it.

Gay couples are NOT stealing your religious sacrament. YOU are depriving gay couples of the same benefits UNDER THE LAW awarded to heterosexual couples. no you are wrong animals dont pick a samesex mate unl;ess they are animals that reproduce that way and animals mating with others of the same sex is a domination tactic they don't do it for plesure they do it to establish their rank in their pack or environment.

you can be a family if you devorce or cannot have childeren this isn't something that can be helped. plus there is medical advances every day that can render a steral person fertile agian. there is hope for them and also adoption.

i am in noway depriving any rights to anybody i can't marry a dude you cant marry a person of your sex nobody can merry a person of their same sex it is in descriminatory and universal and it leaves no one out at all 100% equal. and it is a religious sacrament has been for all time always will be for ever and ever. never was a state thing or federal issue. it is a religious sacrament look who invented it.

[Ewrue The Veracious]

Melchior wrote: Ewrue The Veracious wrote: The perpouse of the parts matching up is simple the anus is not an entry feces is supposed to leave the body through it and by putting body parts into that orafice you sperad desease.

Sounds like someone doesn't know about their prostate. :lol:

Anal sex isn't just some crazy idea someone thought up one day. It's ancient, intimate, and complex. It isn't even an exclusively homosexual practice, it's popular among heterosexuals even if they don't openly admit it.

So please, it's not worth debating. :roll: i am a heterosexual person and i have never wanted any thing put up my butt nor will i ever want anything crammed into it. i know all about the prostate it is a gland that produces a horomone that produces an erection. and pushing something aginst it to climax is about like proding your pituitary galnd to make you grow taller. it is un natural has no perpouse and has been the speader of a desease known as HIV.

[Carl]

Melchior wrote: it's popular among heterosexuals even if they don't openly admit it.

I've known many heterosexual women in my life that had opinions on anal sex. None of them liked it, and the vast majority complained about their husband or boyfriend constantly pressuring them to engage in it.

Anecdotal, to be sure, yet I have the distinct impression that most heterosexual anal sex involves a measure of coercion...

I do not think any man that is interested in his wife's pleasure spends much time considering anal sex. And vice-versa.

[AnOpenMind]

Almost any kind of sexual activity spreads HIV, not just that kind.

[Ewrue The Veracious]

AnOpenMind wrote: By the way "Crash" won best picture instead of Brokeback Mountain, so maybe they aren't pushing a gay agenda as much as first thought. all i know about the movies is that an exccelent movie filled with values adventure and great acting (the cronicals of narnia) which was a smashing success has no mention in the news or commercials every single break in the TV shows. and a discusting porno about two queers is mentioned on the news daily and is advratised massively and spoken about as if it was the HolyBible, tends to support the agenda theory that queer is good and Christ is bad

[Etienne]

Ewrue The Veracious wrote: Etienne wrote: Ewrue The Veracious wrote: animals don't practice homosexuality when two puppies are humping that is a form of domination it is rape. the perpouse of the parts matching up is simple the anus is not an entry feces is supposed to leave the body through it and by putting body parts into that orafice you sperad desease. also childbirth procreation. you cannot have a family without a mother father or as it is called bridegroom.

First...

Quote: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanimal.html

But, actually, some same-sex birds do do it. So do beetles, sheep, fruit bats, dolphins, and orangutans. Zoologists are discovering that homosexual and bisexual activity is not unknown within the animal kingdom.


Roy and Silo, two male chinstrap penguins at New York's Central Park Zoo have been inseparable for six years now. They display classic pair-bonding behavior—entwining of necks, mutual preening, flipper flapping, and the rest. They also have sex, while ignoring potential female mates.

Wild birds exhibit similar behavior. There are male ostriches that only court their own gender, and pairs of male flamingos that mate, build nests, and even raise foster chicks.

And second...

You cannot have a family without a mother and a father? So again...people who can't have children shouldn't be able to marry, because they can't have children, and therefore can't form a family. It takes a mother and a father, and since they can't have children, they can't be a mother and a father.

Quote: how can you steal a religious sacramint from all the churches and say it is a legal contract. a barmitsva is not a legal contract first communion is not a legal contract tething is not a legal contract. by the homosexuals stealing our sacrament they are stomping on my belifes and that isn't illigal but that is why i am aginst it.

Gay couples are NOT stealing your religious sacrament. YOU are depriving gay couples of the same benefits UNDER THE LAW awarded to heterosexual couples. no you are wrong animals dont pick a samesex mate unl;ess they are animals that reproduce that way and animals mating with others of the same sex is a domination tactic they don't do it for plesure they do it to establish their rank in their pack or environment.

Zoologists have observed animals engaging in homosexual behavior, yet I am wrong?

Quote: you can be a family if you devorce or cannot have childeren this isn't something that can be helped. plus there is medical advances every day that can render a steral person fertile agian. there is hope for them and also adoption.

But you said you can't have a family without a mother and a father. If people can't have children, then they can't become mothers and fathers, and therefore shouldn't be allowed to marry.

Quote: i am in noway depriving any rights to anybody i can't marry a dude you cant marry a person of your sex nobody can merry a person of their same sex it is in descriminatory and universal and it leaves no one out at all 100% equal. and it is a religious sacrament has been for all time always will be for ever and ever. never was a state thing or federal issue. it is a religious sacrament look who invented it.

If two women love each other, and are committed to each other in a long term relationship, then you are depriving them of the benefits awarded to heterosexual couples by denying them the right to marry.

[Ewrue The Veracious]

AnOpenMind wrote: Almost any kind of sexual activity spreads HIV, not just that kind. anal sex started it and spreads it much more effectively. and ecoly is a bacteria that lives in feces and you can get an infection from anal sex and sped this infection. fecal matter is not something you want to be on your genitals ask any docter.

[Carl]

Etienne wrote: If two women love each other, and are committed to each other in a long term relationship, then you are depriving them of the benefits awarded to heterosexual couples by denying them the right to marry.

Everyone in America, gay or straight, has the right to marry under precisely the same terms as everyone else. It's not an issue of rights.

[Etienne]

Carl wrote: Etienne wrote: If two women love each other, and are committed to each other in a long term relationship, then you are depriving them of the benefits awarded to heterosexual couples by denying them the right to marry.

Everyone in America, gay or straight, has the right to marry under precisely the same terms as everyone else. It's not an issue of rights.

Everyone is America has a right to marry their soul mate?

[Melchior]

Ewrue The Veracious wrote: i am a heterosexual person and i have never wanted any thing put up my butt nor will i ever want anything crammed into it. i know all about the prostate it is a gland that produces a horomone that produces an erection. and pushing something aginst it to climax is about like proding your pituitary galnd to make you grow taller. it is un natural has no perpouse and has been the speader of a desease known as HIV.

Some men like it, some men don't, it seems you never bothered to consider it, but that's your problem.

What I am telling you is that it is totally natural and completely healthy, as long as certain precautions are made. I can't sit here and listen to you talk about anal sex like it's a harmful drug or some kind of fad.

AnOpenMind wrote: Almost any kind of sexual activity spreads HIV, not just that kind.

Thank you.

Carl wrote: Melchior wrote: it's popular among heterosexuals even if they don't openly admit it.

I've known many heterosexual women in my life that had opinions on anal sex. None of them liked it, and the vast majority complained about their husband or boyfriend constantly pressuring them to engage in it.

Anecdotal, to be sure, yet I have the distinct impression that most heterosexual anal sex involves a measure of coercion...

I do not think any man that is interested in his wife's pleasure spends much time considering anal sex. And vice-versa.

First of all, I wasn't talking about just women.

But now that you brought it up I suggest you do some searching. It's true though, anal sex is definitely not popular among women, most women are only thinking about their husbands in that regard.

[Melchior]

Ewrue The Veracious wrote: AnOpenMind wrote: Almost any kind of sexual activity spreads HIV, not just that kind. anal sex started it and spreads it much more effectively. and ecoly is a bacteria that lives in feces and you can get an infection from anal sex and sped this infection. fecal matter is not something you want to be on your genitals ask any docter.

Anyone has half a brain-cell to maintain good hygiene.

Are you telling me unsanitary/unprotected straight sex is safer?

[Carl]

Etienne wrote: Everyone is America has a right to marry their soul mate?

I don't believe there's anything in the common terms of marriage that all are equally afforded that references abstractions such as "soul mate".

The right to marriage extends to all Americans equally, under equal conditions. It is not an issue of rights.

[Ewrue The Veracious]

Etienne wrote: Ewrue The Veracious wrote: Etienne wrote: Ewrue The Veracious wrote: animals don't practice homosexuality when two puppies are humping that is a form of domination it is rape. the perpouse of the parts matching up is simple the anus is not an entry feces is supposed to leave the body through it and by putting body parts into that orafice you sperad desease. also childbirth procreation. you cannot have a family without a mother father or as it is called bridegroom.

[irst...

Quote: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanimal.html

But, actually, some same-sex birds do do it. So do beetles, sheep, fruit bats, dolphins, and orangutans. Zoologists are discovering that homosexual and bisexual activity is not unknown within the animal kingdom.


Roy and Silo, two male chinstrap penguins at New York's Central Park Zoo have been inseparable for six years now. They display classic pair-bonding behavior—entwining of necks, mutual preening, flipper flapping, and the rest. They also have sex, while ignoring potential female mates.

Wild birds exhibit similar behavior. There are male ostriches that only court their own gender, and pairs of male flamingos that mate, build nests, and even raise foster chicks.

And second...

You cannot have a family without a mother and a father? So again...people who can't have children shouldn't be able to marry, because they can't have children, and therefore can't form a family. It takes a mother and a father, and since they can't have children, they can't be a mother and a father.

Quote: how can you steal a religious sacramint from all the churches and say it is a legal contract. a barmitsva is not a legal contract first communion is not a legal contract tething is not a legal contract. by the homosexuals stealing our sacrament they are stomping on my belifes and that isn't illigal but that is why i am aginst it.

Gay couples are NOT stealing your religious sacrament. YOU are depriving gay couples of the same benefits UNDER THE LAW awarded to heterosexual couples. no you are wrong animals dont pick a samesex mate unl;ess they are animals that reproduce that way and animals mating with others of the same sex is a domination tactic they don't do it for plesure they do it to establish their rank in their pack or environment.

[quote=Zoologists have observed animals engaging in homosexual behavior, yet I am wrong?]
there is no homosexualality between animals it is a domination tactic now your appling this theory to the debate then i should be allowed to eat you because crabs are canables i should be allowed to piss on your car and it would become my property. animals do not engage in sexual intorcorse with the same sex for the reasons people do it. it is to gain a position over each other for servival. your arguemnt however well stated it is or grounded in scince, has no bering and dosent prove that the homosexual behavior of mankind is the equivelant.

Quote: you can be a family if you devorce or cannot have childeren this isn't something that can be helped. plus there is medical advances every day that can render a steral person fertile agian. there is hope for them and also adoption.

[quote=But you said you can't have a family without a mother and a father. If people can't have children, then they can't become mothers and fathers, and therefore shouldn't be allowed to marry.]
do you know what good faith is. in the hope that people cannot bear children may be able to is enough to allow them to merry nomatter if the hope is very slight. a mother can also be a potintial mother and same with father. and there is also adoption. with two people of the same sex there is no way that they can procreate with each other and they will never be allowed to adopt children because the child will never understand the gender roles or normalcy and with perverted people as his parents he will become a pervert himself.

Quote: i am in noway depriving any rights to anybody i can't marry a dude you cant marry a person of your sex nobody can merry a person of their same sex it is in descriminatory and universal and it leaves no one out at all 100% equal. and it is a religious sacrament has been for all time always will be for ever and ever. never was a state thing or federal issue. it is a religious sacrament look who invented it.

If two women love each other, and are committed to each other in a long term relationship, then you are depriving them of the benefits awarded to heterosexual couples by denying them the right to marry. no i am not depriving them of a long term relationship they could find a man to marry and if they cant too bad marrage is definded as between a man and a woman end of that debate no opinion will ever change that fact ever.

[Ewrue The Veracious]

Melchior wrote: Ewrue The Veracious wrote: AnOpenMind wrote: Almost any kind of sexual activity spreads HIV, not just that kind. anal sex started it and spreads it much more effectively. and ecoly is a bacteria that lives in feces and you can get an infection from anal sex and sped this infection. fecal matter is not something you want to be on your genitals ask any docter.

Anyone has half a brain-cell to maintain good hygiene.

Are you telling me unsanitary/unprotected straight sex is safer? yes marginally you cannot get ecoly from it and it also has a perpouse, procreation.

[Etienne]

Carl wrote: Etienne wrote: Everyone is America has a right to marry their soul mate?

I don't believe there's anything in the common terms of marriage that all are equally afforded that references abstractions such as "soul mate".

But there is love, honor...

[Ewrue The Veracious]

Etienne wrote: Carl wrote: Etienne wrote: If two women love each other, and are committed to each other in a long term relationship, then you are depriving them of the benefits awarded to heterosexual couples by denying them the right to marry.

Everyone in America, gay or straight, has the right to marry under precisely the same terms as everyone else. It's not an issue of rights.

Everyone is America has a right to marry their soul mate? what if your so called sole mate is a 5 year old, or a dead person, or a farrari, or any thing else. nobody has the right to marry their sole mate.

[Etienne]

Ewrue The Veracious wrote: Etienne wrote: Ewrue The Veracious wrote: Etienne wrote: Ewrue The Veracious wrote: animals don't practice homosexuality when two puppies are humping that is a form of domination it is rape. the perpouse of the parts matching up is simple the anus is not an entry feces is supposed to leave the body through it and by putting body parts into that orafice you sperad desease. also childbirth procreation. you cannot have a family without a mother father or as it is called bridegroom.

[irst...

Quote: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanimal.html

But, actually, some same-sex birds do do it. So do beetles, sheep, fruit bats, dolphins, and orangutans. Zoologists are discovering that homosexual and bisexual activity is not unknown within the animal kingdom.


Roy and Silo, two male chinstrap penguins at New York's Central Park Zoo have been inseparable for six years now. They display classic pair-bonding behavior—entwining of necks, mutual preening, flipper flapping, and the rest. They also have sex, while ignoring potential female mates.

Wild birds exhibit similar behavior. There are male ostriches that only court their own gender, and pairs of male flamingos that mate, build nests, and even raise foster chicks.

And second...

You cannot have a family without a mother and a father? So again...people who can't have children shouldn't be able to marry, because they can't have children, and therefore can't form a family. It takes a mother and a father, and since they can't have children, they can't be a mother and a father.

Quote: how can you steal a religious sacramint from all the churches and say it is a legal contract. a barmitsva is not a legal contract first communion is not a legal contract tething is not a legal contract. by the homosexuals stealing our sacrament they are stomping on my belifes and that isn't illigal but that is why i am aginst it.

Gay couples are NOT stealing your religious sacrament. YOU are depriving gay couples of the same benefits UNDER THE LAW awarded to heterosexual couples. no you are wrong animals dont pick a samesex mate unl;ess they are animals that reproduce that way and animals mating with others of the same sex is a domination tactic they don't do it for plesure they do it to establish their rank in their pack or environment.

[quote=Zoologists have observed animals engaging in homosexual behavior, yet I am wrong?]
there is no homosexualality between animals it is a domination tactic now your appling this theory to the debate then i should be allowed to eat you because crabs are canables i should be allowed to piss on your car and it would become my property. animals do not engage in sexual intorcorse with the same sex for the reasons people do it. it is to gain a position over each other for servival. your arguemnt however well stated it is or grounded in scince, has no bering and dosent prove that the homosexual behavior of mankind is the equivelant.

Quote: you can be a family if you devorce or cannot have childeren this isn't something that can be helped. plus there is medical advances every day that can render a steral person fertile agian. there is hope for them and also adoption.

[quote=But you said you can't have a family without a mother and a father. If people can't have children, then they can't become mothers and fathers, and therefore shouldn't be allowed to marry.]
do you know what good faith is. in the hope that people cannot bear children may be able to is enough to allow them to merry nomatter if the hope is very slight. a mother can also be a potintial mother and same with father. and there is also adoption. with two people of the same sex there is no way that they can procreate with each other and they will never be allowed to adopt children because the child will never understand the gender roles or normalcy and with perverted people as his parents he will become a pervert himself.

Quote: i am in noway depriving any rights to anybody i can't marry a dude you cant marry a person of your sex nobody can merry a person of their same sex it is in descriminatory and universal and it leaves no one out at all 100% equal. and it is a religious sacrament has been for all time always will be for ever and ever. never was a state thing or federal issue. it is a religious sacrament look who invented it.

If two women love each other, and are committed to each other in a long term relationship, then you are depriving them of the benefits awarded to heterosexual couples by denying them the right to marry. no i am not depriving them of a long term relationship they could find a man to marry and if they cant too bad marrage is definded as between a man and a woman end of that debate no opinion will ever change that fact ever.

It sounds like gender is more important to you than love, honor, and commitment...

[Etienne]

Ewrue The Veracious wrote: Etienne wrote: Carl wrote: Etienne wrote: If two women love each other, and are committed to each other in a long term relationship, then you are depriving them of the benefits awarded to heterosexual couples by denying them the right to marry.

Everyone in America, gay or straight, has the right to marry under precisely the same terms as everyone else. It's not an issue of rights.

Everyone is America has a right to marry their soul mate? what if your so called sole mate is a 5 year old, or a dead person, or a farrari, or any thing else. nobody has the right to marry their sole mate.

I thought we were talking about consenting adults living in a free society?