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Canadian_Patriot · Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 323

I have a vision.

My vision is a weather grid in which not only can we predict weather accuratly but control it and modify it to suit the needs of people in cities but agriculture as well.

Imagin if you could get rid of the droughts in Africa so that farmers could get rain to help crops, or reduce weather systems over cities to save billions a year on insurance and repairs caused by a storm system.

I have been designing such a device that can do just that in cobination with one of the strongest computers in the world in Japan. this computer is specifically designed to know the weather world wide and has a 98.9% accuracy doing so with space based systems.

This device in conjunction with the japanese system detects weather then shoots gigawatt pulses into the atmosphere pushing up the ionisphere. when you push up the ionisphere in a single location you can localize the weather because clouds will form in the area of effect which can range between a mile to several hundred or thousands of miles. It can also have the opposite effect on intense storm fronts almost immediatly destroying a weather system.

Unfortunatly i feel that if i put out information like this or sell it's design it could end up in the wrong hands. think of a nuclear bomb type situation or a new arms race for weather based weapons. This system is not like Haarp where a giant array of antenae are used but much smaller and much more powerfull. It will have an energy output of about 10-20 gigawatts. could possibly fry a whole lot of people or earth and space based systems and grids.

Any input from junior or amatuer scientists is welcome. The question for me is do i get it built and begin testing or leave it and work on another project?

Ragnar Danneskjold · Joined: 11 Oct 2005 Posts: 2628 Location: Mulligan's Valley

You can get funding if these guy get into power.

Canadian_Patriot · Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 323

funding isn't really the issue i have it is morality and the possible dangers of the implications this thing could have because i know how to build it and i know what it might do the problem is what happens if someone uses it for a weapon something i do not want to see happen.

I have dreams that show me what and how to do things. I am in no means a scientist i am a visionary like Tesla and like him i worry about the consequences of my actions on humanity.

Perhaps the people are not ready for what i can give them. I do not worry about my own personal success i have no desire for money or power. I am just a man who has a vision of how things could be and can be. how things should be and eventually will be. with all the war in the world all the secrecy i simply don't know.

I can build it but should I? or will it fall into the wrong hands?

Selfish_Meme · Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 726

Canadian_Patriot wrote: funding isn't really the issue i have it is morality and the possible dangers of the implications this thing could have because i know how to build it and i know what it might do the problem is what happens if someone uses it for a weapon something i do not want to see happen.

I have dreams that show me what and how to do things. I am in no means a scientist i am a visionary like Tesla and like him i worry about the consequences of my actions on humanity.

Perhaps the people are not ready for what i can give them. I do not worry about my own personal success i have no desire for money or power. I am just a man who has a vision of how things could be and can be. how things should be and eventually will be. with all the war in the world all the secrecy i simply don't know.

I can build it but should I? or will it fall into the wrong hands?
There are no evil technologies, only evil people. You are not morally responsible for the uses your device is put to. Also the technology will be discovered by another anyway if it hasn't already. It is better that you try and control its application than do nothing.

ieatfood · Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 6505

why don't we try finding a cure for cancer first....

before we start pushing "gigawatts" into "ionospheres."

DarkMerlin · Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:23 pm Post subject:

ieatfood wrote: why don't we try finding a cure for cancer first....

before we start pushing "gigawatts" into "ionospheres."

The two aren't mutually exclusive. After all, the people who are interested in weather control technology don't have the expertise to cure cancer, and vice versa.

connermt · Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 1526 Location: CMH OHIO

Canadian_Patriot wrote: I have a vision.

My vision is a weather grid in which not only can we predict weather accuratly but control it and modify it to suit the needs of people in cities but agriculture as well.

Imagin if you could get rid of the droughts in Africa so that farmers could get rain to help crops, or reduce weather systems over cities to save billions a year on insurance and repairs caused by a storm system.

I have been designing such a device that can do just that in cobination with one of the strongest computers in the world in Japan. this computer is specifically designed to know the weather world wide and has a 98.9% accuracy doing so with space based systems.

This device in conjunction with the japanese system detects weather then shoots gigawatt pulses into the atmosphere pushing up the ionisphere. when you push up the ionisphere in a single location you can localize the weather because clouds will form in the area of effect which can range between a mile to several hundred or thousands of miles. It can also have the opposite effect on intense storm fronts almost immediatly destroying a weather system.

Unfortunatly i feel that if i put out information like this or sell it's design it could end up in the wrong hands. think of a nuclear bomb type situation or a new arms race for weather based weapons. This system is not like Haarp where a giant array of antenae are used but much smaller and much more powerfull. It will have an energy output of about 10-20 gigawatts. could possibly fry a whole lot of people or earth and space based systems and grids.

Any input from junior or amatuer scientists is welcome. The question for me is do i get it built and begin testing or leave it and work on another project?

GREAT! Just think of the natural disaster we can creat then!!
Let's totally upset the ocean currents, the enviromental stability of the African plains & rain forests, change wind patterns
WOO HOO!
[sarcasm for those of you who don't get it]

micfranklin · Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:12 pm Post subject:

ieatfood wrote: why don't we try finding a cure for cancer first....

before we start pushing "gigawatts" into "ionospheres."

Trying to play God can have some really nasty consequences, you know. Remember what happened when that guy created Jurassic Park (although that's not realistic)

DarkMerlin · Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:50 pm Post subject:

micfranklin wrote: ieatfood wrote: why don't we try finding a cure for cancer first....

before we start pushing "gigawatts" into "ionospheres."

Trying to play God can have some really nasty consequences, you know. Remember what happened when that guy created Jurassic Park (although that's not realistic)

Yes, great argument: something went wrong in a movie, therefore it will go wrong in real life.

micfranklin · Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 5:26 pm Post subject:

DarkMerlin wrote: micfranklin wrote: ieatfood wrote: why don't we try finding a cure for cancer first....

before we start pushing "gigawatts" into "ionospheres."

Trying to play God can have some really nasty consequences, you know. Remember what happened when that guy created Jurassic Park (although that's not realistic)

Yes, great argument: something went wrong in a movie, therefore it will go wrong in real life.

Are you being sarcastic? I can't tell because it's a computer.

DarkMerlin · Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:56 pm Post subject:

micfranklin wrote: DarkMerlin wrote: micfranklin wrote: ieatfood wrote: why don't we try finding a cure for cancer first....

before we start pushing "gigawatts" into "ionospheres."

Trying to play God can have some really nasty consequences, you know. Remember what happened when that guy created Jurassic Park (although that's not realistic)

Yes, great argument: something went wrong in a movie, therefore it will go wrong in real life.

Are you being sarcastic? I can't tell because it's a computer.

Yes. I am. :-|

David · Joined: 28 Dec 2003 Posts: 12417 Location: Louisiana

The Government of both the US and the former Soviet Union have been able to do this for about 30 years that I know of.

Tracker · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 3:19 am Post subject:

Yeah, that's the Tesla power-grid you just described. His patented device, which he thoroughly tested and experimented with, 'broadcast' energy instead of transmitting it along electrical wires.

As for weather, clouds, being more than few miles above the surface of the planet, well, that is not accurate, so I question your 'weather-pattern' design. What were you trying to say? Weather only occurs very close to the surface, in very dense air. That is why aircraft easily fly over storms, above clouds. Any attempts at controlling weather must occur HERE ... not high above it.

As for your 'morality' issues -- I do not think cloud-making or rain-dances deserves much thought about it, frankly.

The idea of revitalizing farmland in areas affected by desertification is quite simple: pump water and refill inland dry sea-beds, lakes and depressions. As the water evaporates, moisture rises, condenses, and rain is made, making surrounding farmland, crops and orchards furtile again.

When hydroelectric damns are constructed, the lake behind the damn floods thousands of square miles of land. New weather-systems occur LOCALLY as a result.

The Sahara and many other desert regions, such as DeathValley, CA., were once under water ... along shores ... silt carried there and rocks rubbed together by water to make BEACHES ... but now the water is so far away, what remains is nothing but dry sand, blowing in the wind into dunes, carried aloft and deposited in 'dune-ridges' over what was once farmland and forests, suffocating life.

There is no other way to make sand. Not dirt. Sand. There is a BIG difference.

Back to your 'morality' concerns: if you are concerned about the weaponization of your invention, develop a mechanism for an GLOBAL_ATTITUDE_ADJUSTMENT FIRST.