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Protostar · Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 9:13 pm Post subject: Openoffice.org/Firefox....

only 29.95 plus free shipping!

http://www.oooff.com/openoffice.html

:rotf::rotf::rotf: Anyone who pays money for Oo and Firefox is a fool. Hell, the software is free on Windows, if you have to pay for it on Linux you know there is a problem. Linspire blows. That's my opinion though. What does everyone else think?

Shady · Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 7413 Location: VA

If it was good enough I'd pay for it. Better to pay for something good and keep the afloat then steal stuff and have to eventually deal with crappier things. I'm willling to pay for quality-at a reasonable price. I don't buy Photoshop. 700 bucks? Wtf?

FCTE · Joined: 11 Mar 2004 Posts: 19114

Protostar wrote: only 29.95 plus free shipping!

http://www.oooff.com/openoffice.html

:rotf::rotf::rotf: Anyone who pays money for Oo and Firefox is a fool. Hell, the software is free on Windows, if you have to pay for it on Linux you know there is a problem. Linspire blows. That's my opinion though. What does everyone else think?

Rob is going to kill you.

endersshadow · Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 10130 Location: Dallas

Shady wrote: If it was good enough I'd pay for it. Better to pay for something good and keep the afloat then steal stuff and have to eventually deal with crappier things. I'm willling to pay for quality-at a reasonable price. I don't buy Photoshop. 700 bucks? Wtf?

Dude, it's free as in always free not just "I-took-it" free. It's called free software. Join the movement.

Don't buy Photoshop: Use GIMP. Get into Free Software :tu:

Protostar · Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:08 am Post subject: Re: Openoffice.org/Firefox....

FCTE wrote: Protostar wrote: only 29.95 plus free shipping!

http://www.oooff.com/openoffice.html

:rotf::rotf::rotf: Anyone who pays money for Oo and Firefox is a fool. Hell, the software is free on Windows, if you have to pay for it on Linux you know there is a problem. Linspire blows. That's my opinion though. What does everyone else think?

Rob is going to kill you.

Why? Does he use Linspire? I assumed he used Ubuntu. If I were to try and get my folks to switch to Linux, I would never recommend Linspire. That is worse than Windows in my opinion.

endersshadow · Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 10130 Location: Dallas

Protostar wrote: Why? Does he use Linspire? I assumed he used Ubuntu. If I were to try and get my folks to switch to Linux, I would never recommend Linspire. That is worse than Windows in my opinion.

He used to, but now he uses Ubuntu. :-D

But I agree, Linspire is an absolute stain on Linux as a whole :-|

Pebble · Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 1143

Trying to make money out of the open source movement...doesn't that go against the whole principle?

From the research I did a while back, i'd take ubuntu if I ever went linux, which is looking more and more likely.

poweRob · Joined: 14 Jul 2004 Posts: 22703

endersshadow wrote: Protostar wrote: Why? Does he use Linspire? I assumed he used Ubuntu. If I were to try and get my folks to switch to Linux, I would never recommend Linspire. That is worse than Windows in my opinion.

He used to, but now he uses Ubuntu. :-D

But I agree, Linspire is an absolute stain on Linux as a whole :-|

This is correct. Although my dual boot XP/Ubuntu computer blew up... (motherboard issue not a software issue).

I did linspire for a while and was very disappointed. Very very clunky especially for a linux OS.

Sid · Joined: 26 Oct 2004 Posts: 4613 Location: Kansas

Wait, I know that OOo and Firefox are distributed for free, but doesn't someone still own the liscense to them? Couldn't someone get sued for this?

endersshadow · Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 10130 Location: Dallas

Sid wrote: Wait, I know that OOo and Firefox are distributed for free, but doesn't someone still own the liscense to them? Couldn't someone get sued for this?

Yes the MPL (Firefox's license) and the GPL (OO.o's license) allow you to sell the products, so long as you ship the software.

It's important to note that this is not really that odd. Red Hat, Mandriva, and SuSE all ship a collection of open sourced software, and supply the source codes. They just back them up with support. The difference here is that Red Hat, Mandriva, and SuSE make it very clear that they're selling you support as well as a few extra tools, while Linspire is trying to cover up the fact that these programs are available for free elsewhere and even that they are open sourced.

FCTE · Joined: 11 Mar 2004 Posts: 19114

Mepis and Xandros also cost money and charge a monthly support fee.

Why you would do this when Ubuntu and others have awesome free support in the form of forums is beyond me.

beachbum bob · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:24 am Post subject:

FCTE wrote: Mepis and Xandros also cost money and charge a monthly support fee.

Why you would do this when Ubuntu and others have awesome free support in the form of forums is beyond me.

I've used Xandros since day one on two of my computers..along with RH, Mandrake, and Gentoo

and I've stuck with xandros for several reasons
1. out the box setup integration into a windows network is a no-brainer
2. codeweavers crossover for running windows apps like office if you have to..(my case I have to) but I do use oo for everything else
3. my wife had no problem using it with no explanation....that was the deciding factor

I continue to toy with new linux distros as they come out but so far Xandros is the clear winner...for non-command line world

Protostar · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:41 am Post subject:

beachbum bob wrote: FCTE wrote: Mepis and Xandros also cost money and charge a monthly support fee.

Why you would do this when Ubuntu and others have awesome free support in the form of forums is beyond me.

I've used Xandros since day one on two of my computers..along with RH, Mandrake, and Gentoo

and I've stuck with xandros for several reasons
1. out the box setup integration into a windows network is a no-brainer
2. codeweavers crossover for running windows apps like office if you have to..(my case I have to) but I do use oo for everything else
3. my wife had no problem using it with no explanation....that was the deciding factor

I continue to toy with new linux distros as they come out but so far Xandros is the clear winner...for non-command line world

I tried Xandros OCE and was not pleased with it at all. It was sluggish and never was able to add Debian repositories correctly. It also froze up more than Windows. The best part, IMO, was the customized bootloader and even that didnot work correctly as it didnot add Windows the the grub list (or whatever list Xandros uses). Suse was great but I left it as well because it was too slow. I'm about to try the Flight 4 release of Ubuntu Dapper.

beachbum bob · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:35 pm Post subject:

Protostar wrote: beachbum bob wrote: FCTE wrote: Mepis and Xandros also cost money and charge a monthly support fee.

Why you would do this when Ubuntu and others have awesome free support in the form of forums is beyond me.

I've used Xandros since day one on two of my computers..along with RH, Mandrake, and Gentoo

and I've stuck with xandros for several reasons
1. out the box setup integration into a windows network is a no-brainer
2. codeweavers crossover for running windows apps like office if you have to..(my case I have to) but I do use oo for everything else
3. my wife had no problem using it with no explanation....that was the deciding factor

I continue to toy with new linux distros as they come out but so far Xandros is the clear winner...for non-command line world

I tried Xandros OCE and was not pleased with it at all. It was sluggish and never was able to add Debian repositories correctly. It also froze up more than Windows. The best part, IMO, was the customized bootloader and even that didnot work correctly as it didnot add Windows the the grub list (or whatever list Xandros uses). Suse was great but I left it as well because it was too slow. I'm about to try the Flight 4 release of Ubuntu Dapper.

OCE was buggy...I've bought the deluxe version and will upgrade to the business version as I have a domain network system I want to integrate at home...
Ubuntu been pretty interesting...

leftneckredwing · Joined: 13 Nov 2004 Posts: 32350 Location: North America

Protostar wrote: only 29.95 plus free shipping!

http://www.oooff.com/openoffice.html

:rotf::rotf::rotf: Anyone who pays money for Oo and Firefox is a fool. Hell, the software is free on Windows, if you have to pay for it on Linux you know there is a problem. Linspire blows. That's my opinion though. What does everyone else think?

Well Proto, since you are my Linux guru, I don't doubt anything you say about it.

So far, my only limitations are myself. When I'm not too lazy to figure out things on my own, everything works, it just takes more work. But the education has been very worthwhile. And the software is solid and you sure can't complain about the price.