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[Sailor Moon]

lululauren wrote: 1. Who is more correct?

My opinions on abortion have recently changed. I used to be pro-life. I used to feel that all children should be born because there is always the option of adoption. However now that I have lived through SEEING how screwed up this country and this world can get - and how neglected and abused "unwanted" children can be, I've learned that honestly it's probably better off for there to be an abortion option. There are so many children that are available for adoption right now, including TEENAGERS who are hard to adopt out. There are babies, children and teenagers from other countries who would be wonderful for adoption (but for some... apparently skin color and such is a bigger deal than being a good parent). If the couple gets pregnant and there is a difference of opinion between the two that can not be agreed on, then *I* feel it's the woman's choice. I understand that that hurts a lot of men's feelings because they are the father of the child and they are half of the reason why the child was born - but the truth is it really isn't their decision whether or not a woman has to go through the nine months of pregnancy just so that the man COULD run away when the baby is born. If the couple is married then I personally feel that the man has a bit more of a say - but still has no ability to force the woman to go through it. If it's a couple or a one night stand, then he has no rights.

2. Who's fault is the pregnancy?

They're both at "fault".

3. What is (or was) the best course of action?

If abortion is being used as a course of birth control because the woman was too self righteous to protect herself - then the best course of action is for me to stay out of it. *I* don't agree with using abortion as birth control.

If abortion is being used because is was honestly an accident. The woman/parents can't take care of this child. They can't afford it, love it enough and/or stomach the idea of adoption - then honestly it's probably better to just go through with the abortion.

I am on the fence with this topic. It's a very touchy subject. I feel that if life would be better not happening, then don't let it happen.

Lauren, you really oughta change your sig if thats how you feel:


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Anyone else who is "wasted space" in the eyes of our wonderful "leaders"...

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Quote: Let me give an example story:
A man and a woman, in the heat of the moment, have sex(boy I just get right to the point don't I?) They don't use protection of any kind. The mother becomes pregnant before she is able to use the Morning after Pill(Oh Goodness, another FUN topic) , and wants to get an abortion. The father however, wants to have the baby.

1. Who is more correct?
2. Who's fault is the pregnancy?
3. What is (or was) the best course of action?

ready? GO!
1. No one is more correct or less correct because there is only correct and incorrect.
2. I wouldn't use the word 'fault' like we're describing some sort of accident or crime. Sex is never accidental when neither side coerces it. Instead of 'fault', I would use 'responsibility'. Both members are equally responsible for the creation of a life and they owe the child their support.
3. The right action. Principles may not always have the best outcome as pragmatics, but they are in the end still right.

[RichardPol]

Hecatomb wrote: Well the fact that you refer to it as a lump of cells put's your stance in clear daylight

Actually not true.... Calling it what it is... a ball of cells. Now whether or not I think that that ball of cells deserves to live is a different thing alltogether

[The Grandmaster]

Hecatomb wrote: Well the fact that you refer to it as a lump of cells put's your stance in clear daylight.. :roll:


Do you mean to say it is not a lump of cells?

[Sailor Moon]

If YOU ARE a lump of cells, then it is AS MUCH of a lump of cells as you are.

Dont compare THAT lump to another, now.. theyre both a whole life.