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[johnson]

The last inventive weapon i read about was the sonic sound blaster than the israelis use to knock crowds off their ass.

It would be somewhat comforting to think the US government is waking up to the fact guns are limited in use.

Is this administration's military a lame duck without any new ideas since unarmed recognisance and bunker busters? Does anybody have any links or such to show something new and interesting on the horizon?

[[Bible]Monkey]

I heard they have some kind of new rifle where you don't need to pour the powder down the muzzle, then the shot and tamp it anymore. :-D


Might be in here somewhere....

[Mucks]

I'd say the latest, most effective "innovation" in weaponry is the IED. Of course, IEDs aren't really a new innovation, but they are being used more often and more effectively than ever before. (If it sounds like I'm supporting the insurgency, I'm not, I'm just stating a fact.)

And while firearms do have "limited use" (you can't cook dinner with a M-16), they are still extremely valuable and necessary for a free society. Not to mention fighting a war.

[Mucks]

[Bible]Monkey wrote: I heard they have some kind of new rifle where you don't need to pour the powder down the muzzle, then the shot and tamp it anymore. :-D


Might be in here somewhere....

Bah! That newfangled technology is just the fad of the week. I'll keep my trusty, non-rifled, two-shots-a-minute muzzleloader, thank you very much.

[Sukoi]

How about a 12 Gauge Fully Automatic Shotgun. I'll bet Cheney's hunting buddy is glad that Cheney didn't have one of these. I sure wouldn't mind having one; it would be great for home defense. :tu:

[Genus]

Red Mercury and Neutron Weapons.

[Ben_Huh]

Sukoi wrote: How about a 12 Gauge Fully Automatic Shotgun. I'll bet Cheney's hunting buddy is glad that Cheney didn't have one of these. I sure wouldn't mind having one; it would be great for home defense. :tu:

That's like France's best export outside of Letitia Casta. The Spas-12 is kick ass.

[Reverend_HellH0und]

johnson wrote: The last inventive weapon i read about was the sonic sound blaster than the israelis use to knock crowds off their ass.





Actually that was an American invention...





We are the most technologically advanced nation on the planet by almost a decade......

[Genus]

Reverend_HellH0und wrote:
We are the most technologically advanced nation on the planet by almost a decade......

Only because Roswell is in the US...

:lol:

[grim]

Reverend_HellH0und wrote:
We are the most technologically advanced nation on the planet by almost a decade......

Militarily? Mostly. With some notable exceptions. Unfortunately on the international battlefield scene... cheapo manpads rule. :]

[Reverend_HellH0und]

Ben_Huh wrote: Sukoi wrote: How about a 12 Gauge Fully Automatic Shotgun. I'll bet Cheney's hunting buddy is glad that Cheney didn't have one of these. I sure wouldn't mind having one; it would be great for home defense. :tu:

That's like France's best export outside of Letitia Casta. The Spas-12 is kick ass.



Worthless in the real world... Fun toy.....

[Kt]

UAV has great promise

[leftneckredwing]

Reverend_HellH0und wrote: Ben_Huh wrote: Sukoi wrote: How about a 12 Gauge Fully Automatic Shotgun. I'll bet Cheney's hunting buddy is glad that Cheney didn't have one of these. I sure wouldn't mind having one; it would be great for home defense. :tu:

That's like France's best export outside of Letitia Casta. The Spas-12 is kick ass.



Worthless in the real world... Fun toy.....

But one toy I wouldn't want to stand in front of when it's being played with.

I just like guns that make big holes.

[Chingu]

There are so many advances going on it is hard to keep track of - but I do - LOL

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4655196.stm

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/armyweapons/

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/navyweapons/

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/m8-oicw.htm

http://www.defensetech.org/

http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/060111_e-weapons.html

http://www.janes.com/defence/news/jdw/jdw060216_2_n.shtml

http://www.cdi.org/terrorism/new-weapons.cfm

http://www.military-information-technology.com/article.cfm?DocID=1245

http://www.mtekweaponsystems.com/FAST%20G1.html

http://www.mitre.org/news/the_edge/fall_05/darrell.html

http://www.insightmag.com/Media/MediaManager/laser.htm

http://www.aaai.org/AITopics/html/military.html

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/underwater_weapons/index.php

http://www.na.baesystems.com/landArmaments.cfm

and so on and so on -

What I find a bit unnerving - even in the hands of those with the best intentions - are weapons systems that no longwer rely on human beings being under threat of injury or death. Robotic warfare and unmanned vehical warfare is alreadyy here and will be growing by leaps and bounds over the next few decades. My worry is that it makes war too easy - but then - if teh cause is just - there shouldn't be an issue with saving lives. Just sort of a sci-fi thing to consider because it is already here.

[leftneckredwing]

Quote: What I find a bit unnerving - even in the hands of those with the best intentions - are weapons systems that no longwer rely on human beings being under threat of injury or death. Robotic warfare and unmanned vehical warfare is alreadyy here and will be growing by leaps and bounds over the next few decades. My worry is that it makes war too easy - but then - if teh cause is just - there shouldn't be an issue with saving lives. Just sort of a sci-fi thing to consider because it is already here.

Seldom will any action perpetrated upon the US require all out war. Making our reaction in Iraq without a Declaration of War highly questionable.

But with this new ability we do run some risk. We always do. But it does make actions that do not require all out war, most of them, much more effective, brief and more than likely causing far less death than is necessary. Especially on our own side.

[Ben_Huh]

Reverend_HellH0und wrote: Ben_Huh wrote: Sukoi wrote: How about a 12 Gauge Fully Automatic Shotgun. I'll bet Cheney's hunting buddy is glad that Cheney didn't have one of these. I sure wouldn't mind having one; it would be great for home defense. :tu:

That's like France's best export outside of Letitia Casta. The Spas-12 is kick ass.



Worthless in the real world... Fun toy.....

Oh I know; They can't hit the broad side of anything, but they sure are fun.

[kang]

A fully automatic shotgun?

For those times when not just the second shot didn't help?

But also the third and fourth?

ROFL

[kang]

Harbinger wrote: Chingu wrote:
What I find a bit unnerving are weapons systems that no longer rely on human beings being under threat of injury or death. Robotic warfare and unmanned vehicle warfare is already here and will be growing by leaps and bounds over the next few decades.

It's not the lack of threat to the user's life that unnerves me about automated war machines, it's just not having to see the enemy suffer. It makes it too easy for government officials to order the deaths of those they don't like.

It's like, if people had to actually kill a farm animal before they could buy meat from the super market or order some in a restaurant, people wouldn't eat so much meat.

Chivalry died with the first nocked arrow.

I wonder if it ever really existed?

[Plato & Socrates]

Reverend Hellhound wrote: We are the most technologically advanced nation on the planet by almost a decade......

THAT PREMISE IS HIGHLY DEBATABLE...