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DawoodN
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Metaphors...
To take a book of morality as a book of science is to misuse it severely. |
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Saracen
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DawoodN wrote: Metaphors...
To take a book of morality as a book of science is to misuse it severely.
Well, that's new. :?
Are you sure about this? :-| |
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Muslima
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i just recently heard the aim of the early marriage was that aisha being so young meant that she could learn more quickly and easily and that she will be able to tell with good memory unlike older people......if you look closely many of the hadiths come from aisha, especailly the one's that talk about the prophet's life and way of living, ect....
i think it makes sense since we do have a saying in arabic by the meaing that learning in childhood is like sculpting in a rock |
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Saracen
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| Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 1:19 am Post subject: |
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Muslima wrote: i just recently heard the aim of the early marriage was that aisha being so young meant that she could learn more quickly and easily and that she will be able to tell with good memory unlike older people......if you look closely many of the hadiths come from aisha, especailly the one's that talk about the prophet's life and way of living, ect....
i think it makes sense since we do have a saying in arabic by the meaing that learning in childhood is like sculpting in a rock
Aisha married at a young age to learn from the Prophet (pbuh). And yes, you are 100% correct, especially on the Hadith part. |
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Dagger
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My grandmother was maried at 13 and she is from India. And this is what? 50/55 yrs ago? My grandfather was 16
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Saracen
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| Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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Dagger wrote: My grandmother was maried at 13 and she is from India. And this is what? 50/55 yrs ago? My grandfather was 16
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It happens. |
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nrhy
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| isnīt it indian custom to have early and arranged marriages? |
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Saracen
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nrhy wrote: isnīt it indian custom to have early and arranged marriages?
I think so. |
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Clara Listensprechen
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Zeeman wrote: The culture at the time had women and men marrying at a young age..So its wasnt just the prophet but everone else did it.It was the norm..
Plus it was a marriage to strengthen ties at first considering who his wife was.
People, we have a winner. You hit the nail on the head--early arranged marriages were often made for political purposes and Ayisha was her father's daughter all the way.
Focusing on Ayisha rather hides in the background the fact that Christian royalty did exactly this same thing, and for the same reason. |
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Clara Listensprechen
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Saracen wrote: nrhy wrote: isnīt it indian custom to have early and arranged marriages?
I think so.
Brahmin practice, with strong analogy to Ayisha's and Christian royalty cases. |
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Saracen
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| Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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Clara Listensprechen wrote: Saracen wrote: nrhy wrote: isnīt it indian custom to have early and arranged marriages?
I think so.
Brahmin practice, with strong analogy to Ayisha's and Christian royalty cases.
Yep. |
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lucidnightmare
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You can't really judge the past with todays values,attitudes we take for granted now did not always exist.Things like having many wives marrying young,even at 9.I don't see a scandal with this.
It's the same for having slaves,the morality of warfare at the time,not only in Islam but any other religion.It has to be viewed in context. |
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Saracen
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lucidnightmare wrote: You can't really judge the past with todays values,attitudes we take for granted now did not always exist.Things like having many wives marrying young,even at 9.I don't see a scandal with this.
It's the same for having slaves,the morality of warfare at the time,not only in Islam but any other religion.It has to be viewed in context.
With that, I can agree with as well. It's usually subjective and from different POV's, as well as the context of the situation at the time, as you said. |
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