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_FOX_



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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:57 pm    Post subject: Need help...  

Salaam,

What is JIHOD?
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Saracen



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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 2:05 pm    Post subject:  

Salaam. :)

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pharaoh



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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 2:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Need help...  

_FOX_ wrote: Salaam,

What is JIHOD?

Its JIHAD.
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Saracen



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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 2:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Need help...  

pharaoh wrote: _FOX_ wrote: Salaam,

What is JIHOD?

Its JIHAD.

Rats. I forgot to correct the guy. Thanks, pharaoh.
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Hitler_Uz



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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 5:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Need help...  

_FOX_ wrote: Salaam,

What is JIHOD?
Jihad is the threatining peaceful people
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Saracen



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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 5:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Need help...  

Hitler_Uz wrote: _FOX_ wrote: Salaam,

What is JIHOD?
Jihad is the threatining peaceful people

What are you talking about? Jihad is not threatening peaceful people. :roll:
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Hitler_Uz



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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 5:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Need help...  

Saracen wrote: Hitler_Uz wrote: _FOX_ wrote: Salaam,

What is JIHOD?
Jihad is the threatining peaceful people

What are you talking about? Jihad is not threatening peaceful people. :roll:
But Jihad is DESTROYING the GOVERNMENT :roll:
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Saracen



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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 5:49 pm    Post subject:  

Hitler Uz wrote: But Jihad is DESTROYING the GOVERNMENT

Are you talking about terrorists? Because they don't do real Jihad. Don't try to mix up the Islamic meaning with the Western meaning of Jihad.
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Hitler_Uz



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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 5:58 pm    Post subject:  

Saracen wrote: Hitler Uz wrote: But Jihad is DESTROYING the GOVERNMENT

Are you talking about terrorists? Because they don't do real Jihad. Don't try to mix up the Islamic meaning with the Western meaning of Jihad.
maybe u'r right but I don't aprove JIHAD. At any rate it means BLOOD.
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Saracen



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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 6:00 pm    Post subject:  

Hitler Uz wrote: maybe u'r right but I don't aprove JIHAD. At any rate it means BLOOD.

No it doesn't. Open the link I have on top.

Terrorism, not Jihad, means blood.
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_FOX_



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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 10:44 pm    Post subject:  

Quote: ...fighting in the name of God is fighting in the name of justice...
Quote: ...there are times, in certain circumstances, when Islam (Submission) tolerates, permits and sometimes even accepts the practise of war. Islam strongly emphasizes the ideas of justice, freedom and opposition to oppression...


well, even though if you fight in the name of God or for justice, freedom and opposition to oppression, it is still war, where people die... where u'll kill people... Isn't God the only one who decides whether you die or not? How can a human (who is sinful himself) be so sure that he is right that he allows himself to kill another human, God's creation??? :shock:
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Saracen



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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 10:52 pm    Post subject:  

_FOX_ wrote: Quote: ...fighting in the name of God is fighting in the name of justice...
Quote: ...there are times, in certain circumstances, when Islam (Submission) tolerates, permits and sometimes even accepts the practise of war. Islam strongly emphasizes the ideas of justice, freedom and opposition to oppression...


well, even though if you fight in the name of God or for justice, freedom and opposition to oppression, it is still war, where people die... where u'll kill people... Isn't God the only one who decides whether you die or not? How can a human (who is sinful himself) be so sure that he is right that he allows himself to kill another human, God's creation??? :shock:

It's not that, FOX. It's just that in war, you have to fight back. Islam is a peaceful religion, but it doesn't mean that you shouldn't protect yourself with violence when necessary.
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_FOX_



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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 11:17 pm    Post subject:  

But that web-site or the quote doesn't say anything about fighting back. It's not that somebody is fighting you and you have to fight back, it's about u have to fight for freedom, justice, and practice of religion.... You have to fight(kill) to gain them, if you can't gain them with peace. isn't it what it is?

What prophet Mohammed fought for? To spread Islam???
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Saracen



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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 11:19 pm    Post subject:  

_FOX_ wrote: But that web-site or the quote doesn't say anything about fighting back. It's not that somebody is fighting you and you have to fight back, it's about u have to fight for freedom, justice, and practice of religion.... You have to fight(kill) to gain them, if you can't gain them with peace. isn't it what it is?

What prophet Mohammed fought for? To spread Islam???

http://www.muhammad.net/

He didn't wage war. He was attacked.
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Muslima



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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 11:15 pm    Post subject:  

why does everybody relate jihad to terrorism.....they are two different concepts

it is true that many muslim terrorists do their dirty work by using the name jihad.....it si a really unpleasant thing to do...but they are different.

there are many different types of jihad...it is not only fighting
muslims could to jihad when they obey the allah and his prophet, by not doing what he forbide in islam
actually, going to work or to school is a kind of jihad!

because jihad in arabic means to put effort and energy in doing something......
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ukgirl



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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 9:46 am    Post subject:  

Saracen wrote: Hitler Uz wrote: maybe u'r right but I don't aprove JIHAD. At any rate it means BLOOD.

No it doesn't. Open the link I have on top.

Terrorism, not Jihad, means blood.

Saracen,

I wouldn't take a whole lot of notice of someone with the name of Hitler..
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Saracen



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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 11:28 am    Post subject:  

ukgirl wrote: I wouldn't take a whole lot of notice of someone with the name of Hitler..

I was thinking the same thing, but I couldn't care less either way.
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