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Alula



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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 12:10 am    Post subject:  

go your own way
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Alula



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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 12:11 am    Post subject:  

:!oops: unless your baptised.
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garyd



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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 6:22 am    Post subject:  

With all due respect to others who have responded No amount of studying will ever make you a Christian. Studying the Bible isn't what makes one a Christian else everyone who had ever read it would become automatically a Christ. It is God who saves and not man's actions or rules none the less at some point you must choose what sort of human being you wish to be and there are many choices some good and some bad.

What seems good to man may well be an abomination before God for what seems good to a man is to magnify and glorify himself. Some seek fame but are all to willing to settle for infamy.

I give you but this one thought:

Every man has his gods. Among them are power pleasure and wealth. The worst of these however is pleasure for a man can worship at the altar of power and acheive control of armies and nations. He can worship at the altar of wealth and gain control of vast riches but a amn who worships at the altar of pleasure has control of nothing not even himself or his own desires.
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KOV-14



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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:31 pm    Post subject:  

"God is an imaginary friend for grown ups." Morgen Freeman

J/K. I don't think it really matters what you believe, I mean I believe that we all (Christian/Muslim/Jewish/Buddist/Hindu/Shinto etc.) believe in the same God but just in different ways. And if God was someone who'd send me to Hell just because I ate pork or had sex before marriage, he doesn't deserve to be my God.
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soldiercide



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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:37 pm    Post subject:  

it is my belief that god was something made up to make our lives seem less trivial.
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maninblack



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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:30 pm    Post subject:  

While many people will say that this is trivial, think about this for a second: If there is no God, how did it all begin? When did pure nothingness become something? When was energy and matter born? Which brings to mind the watchmaker argument: if you find a watch in the woods, are you going to assume that it just popped into existance by a massive explosion or are you going to beleive that someone made it and lost it there?
As for what religion is best, just search the texts for internal inconsistancies and which texts stand up to science better.
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cassandrabandra



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Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:07 am    Post subject:  

maninblack wrote:
As for what religion is best, just search the texts for internal inconsistancies and which texts stand up to science better.

if we are looking at which religious texts stand up best to science ... I'd probably go with Hinduism. Internal inconsistencies ... probably I'd go with the philosophy of Buddhism The Abrahamic faiths are all losers on the basis of internal inconsistencies.
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garyd



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Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:14 am    Post subject:  

Obviously you haven't studied the Hindu creation mythos? If you had you'd long ago given up the ntion that Hinduism has anything to do with scientific reality. I mean give me a break Cows were God's first creation?
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KOV-14



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Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:44 pm    Post subject:  

garyd wrote: Obviously you haven't studied the Hindu creation mythos? If you had you'd long ago given up the ntion that Hinduism has anything to do with scientific reality. I mean give me a break Cows were God's first creation?

Mmm...beef...
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cassandrabandra



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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:34 am    Post subject:  

garyd wrote: Obviously you haven't studied the Hindu creation mythos? If you had you'd long ago given up the ntion that Hinduism has anything to do with scientific reality. I mean give me a break Cows were God's first creation?

Perhaps you had better read up on Hindu philosophy and get back to me?
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Alula



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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:42 am    Post subject:  

I think she's read enough just enjoy your stuffed animals thats what I do.
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Parmenides



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Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 12:17 am    Post subject:  

The basic, moral values of each religion are essentially the same. Just follow a life of morality and righteousness if you don't know to believe in.
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ieatfood



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Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:25 am    Post subject:  

Parmenides wrote: The basic, moral values of each religion are essentially the same. Just follow a life of morality and righteousness if you don't know to believe in.

That's not true. In certain sects of islam, women must wear beekeeper suits. In certain sects of judaism, men have to wear funny hats and long curly hair. It's all very different.
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John Wilkes Booth



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Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 4:00 am    Post subject:  

Reform wrote: Can you define love?

Depends on which society you come from, as they all perceive that particular construct differently.
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John Wilkes Booth



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Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 4:06 am    Post subject:  

garyd wrote: Obviously you haven't studied the Hindu creation mythos? If you had you'd long ago given up the ntion that Hinduism has anything to do with scientific reality. I mean give me a break Cows were God's first creation?

For the sake of argument, why not? Just because cows are funny in our society?
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garyd



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Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 4:16 am    Post subject:  

Hindu isn't a philosopghy it is a religion there is a bit of a difference. There is also a bit of difference between Philosophy and science -the metaphysical as opposed to the physical.

Hinduism is just another theology of works. Not terribly diiferernt from Islam, Roman Catholicism, or Shintoism except that tends to be more inner directed than outer directed and philosophys of works however many or however few works they actually reqire of you are by their very nature illogical.

Their are three basic brances of theology. They are Grace, Grace +, and works and the difference between the last two is for all practiccal purposes nil.

The problem with works theologies is that they propose that which is obviously false namely that doing something good makes you less guilty opf the wrong you have done.
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Alula



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Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:00 pm    Post subject:  

well why is it wrong to look back on what you have done to try to do better?
I think your wrong I think its the fact that people try to remedy the fact that they've done something wrong and try to do better next time with precautionary measures.. By taking things and people into account. Peoples
wellbeing and feelings.
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garyd



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Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:29 am    Post subject:  

Alula there is nothing wrong at all with questioning your actions and motives and trying to improve upon them every Christian ought to for that matter every person ought to. Aristotle figured that one out Before Christ walked the earth.
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Luke



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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 4:54 pm    Post subject:  

Keep those morals that you love and if you beleive in only God, become a Jew, but if you beleive that Jesus is the son of Go, you are Christian.
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John Wilkes Booth



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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 4:14 am    Post subject:  

Alula wrote: :!oops: unless your baptised.

In which case...?
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