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Kt · Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 3806

SpellJammer wrote: Helena wrote: So? Abortion is the right of any mother,
How dare you call yourself a Pagan? What about the rule of three? The purpose of all living things? Karma?

Poser..
I am Pagan, not wiccan. The rule of three can bite me, and so can you.

I do not believe in karma eaither, you could call me LHP pagan if you're into that sort of polarity.

John Wilkes Booth · Joined: 01 Apr 2006 Posts: 394

Sailor Moon wrote:

I honestly dont know what all this has to do with MY thread, though.. :ot:

Wow, this Sailor Moon chick had some serious personality problems. Kudos again, mods, on getting rid of her.

John Wilkes Booth · Joined: 01 Apr 2006 Posts: 394

Sailor Moon wrote: Hey pro choicers- heres a novel idea- go spend 50 bucks, go to an amusement park, and ride a few roller coasters. Better yet- go bungee jumping, or hey- jump on your trampoline! Spend a week doing belly flops off the diving board!

Whoever heard of a 2 week pregnant woman dying from miscarriage complications?

Save your hard earned money, and HAVE FUN!

Better yet, take some herbs (below), mixed together, in some soups and salads- just the ones you know are safe, and eat all the soup you can handle for a couple weeks.

6-10 grams of pure ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) a day for 5 days can work as a morning after pill does, with nearly the same occurrence of results.

http://www.sisterzeus.com/vit_c_ab.html

Look, people, I am not telling anyone they should have an abortion- ok? But if you want to avoid all the trouble and expense, there are other ways.

Oh and pro-choicers should give Sailor Moon some kind of achievement award for thinking up so many great ideas for cheap abortions. She's actually got some good ones on there and I plan to tell my lady friends about them. I'll try my darnedest to get the word out. I promise to kill at least one embryonic human using one of the methods she recommended; in fact, if possible I'll even do it to one I hadn't planned on killing in the first place! And at that moment, SM will have actually made a difference on this Earth.

Sailor Moon: pro-choice hero.

Plodder · Joined: 01 Nov 2005 Posts: 803 Location: USA

? what? r u on crack?

The Grandmaster · Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:15 pm Post subject: Re: $5-$50 dollar abortions!

John Wilkes Booth wrote: Sailor Moon wrote:

I honestly dont know what all this has to do with MY thread, though.. :ot:

Wow, this Sailor Moon chick had some serious personality problems. Kudos again, mods, on getting rid of her.

:lol: Yeah man....wow....you have no idea...

mattwa33193 · Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 904 Location: Miami

conguy wrote: Sailor Moon wrote: But if you want to avoid all the trouble and expense, there are other ways.

Try abstinence?

According to many, abstinence is not 100% effective.

John Wilkes Booth · Joined: 01 Apr 2006 Posts: 394

mattwa33193 wrote: conguy wrote: Sailor Moon wrote: But if you want to avoid all the trouble and expense, there are other ways.

Try abstinence?

According to many, abstinence is not 100% effective.

I've found that if you just rob all pleasure and happiness from your life, you never run the risk of screwing up.

AllAmericanMan · Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 3606

Quote: I've found that if you just rob all pleasure and happiness from your life, you never run the risk of screwing up.

Having fun at the expense of the unborn is what were talking about here. You need to replace some of the "if it feels good do it" logic with some "if its whats easy it probly aint whats right" logic.

John Wilkes Booth · Joined: 01 Apr 2006 Posts: 394

AllAmericanMan wrote: Quote: I've found that if you just rob all pleasure and happiness from your life, you never run the risk of screwing up.

Having fun at the expense of the unborn is what were talking about here. You need to replace some of the "if it feels good do it" logic with some "if its whats easy it probly aint whats right" logic.
What's wrong with fun at the expense of the unborn?

Plodder · Joined: 01 Nov 2005 Posts: 803 Location: USA

you shloud not toy with life of another person.

steen · Joined: 14 Jan 2006 Posts: 1430 Location: Upper Midwest

Plodder wrote: you shloud not toy with life of another person. But the embryo is not a person, so that's just irrelevant ramblings.

Plodder · Joined: 01 Nov 2005 Posts: 803 Location: USA

Quote: per·son ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pûrsn)
n.
A living human. yes that defention is from dictionary .com

steen · Joined: 14 Jan 2006 Posts: 1430 Location: Upper Midwest

Plodder wrote: Quote: per·son ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pûrsn)
n.
A living human. yes that defention is from dictionary .com And I don't see the word 'fetus" anywhere in that definition. Are you TRYING to look stupid here?

Plodder · Joined: 01 Nov 2005 Posts: 803 Location: USA

embryo is human life
a human life is a person

simple logic iths all in the defenotion.

steen · Joined: 14 Jan 2006 Posts: 1430 Location: Upper Midwest

Ah, sophistry. I can do that as well:

Plodder can't fly.
A rock can't fly.
Therefore plodder is a rock.

Golly geee, that was amusing, wasn't it?

Now if you have anything toehr than sophistry and lies to serve up here, then it might be interesting.

AllAmericanMan · Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 3606

Steen your inability to see the development of a human life is astonishing.
Lets go over it again.

Sperm + egg = person.

Now lets go over what you say.

You say its non sensate non sentient. In other words it lacks a DEVELOPED brain. Well a developed brain doesnt appear out of thin air. It takes time to grow. Just because a person isnt fully developed doesnt make it any less of a person. Its a person since conception.

steen · Joined: 14 Jan 2006 Posts: 1430 Location: Upper Midwest

AllAmericanMan wrote: Steen your inability to see the development of a human life is astonishing. I see it just fine. But your inability to describe it without resorting to outright lying is very astonishing, albeit not very surprising as people like you clearly evidence that pro-lifers always lie.

Quote: Lets go over it again. Pointless as you will just spew the same lies, but whatever.

[quote]Sperm + egg = person. [/quote[]A lie. It is a zygote. there is no person until after birth. See Roe vs Wade, section IX.

Quote: ow lets go over what you say. until you stop lying, all I have to say is that you are lying. If you want anything else, you need to first stop lying and denounce your past cowardly misconduct.

Quote: You say its non sensate non sentient. In other words it lacks a DEVELOPED brain. Well a developed brain doesnt appear out of thin air. It takes time to grow. Correct. But until signals actually reach the brain's cortex, it very much is non-sensate, non-sentient. And that final connection that allows signals to the cortex does NOT connect until the end of the 26th week of pregnancy.

Quote: Just because a person isnt fully developed doesnt make it any less of a person. Its a person since conception. A flat-out lie. "Person" is a legal designation, and that designation has very solidly been clarified to NOT apply to the unborn. So your claim remains a lie.

AllAmericanMan · Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 3606

Steen were agrueing what should be legal and what shouldnt. All you can do is call me a liar and ignore all substance.

steen · Joined: 14 Jan 2006 Posts: 1430 Location: Upper Midwest

AllAmericanMan wrote: Steen were agrueing what should be legal and what shouldnt. All you can do is call me a liar and ignore all substance. What substance is there in you lying? Lies have no substance. If you stopped lying, it would be something else.

Plodder · Joined: 01 Nov 2005 Posts: 803 Location: USA

your Ishkabibble is getting old.