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[HomoUniversalis]

Sailor Moon wrote: Humans were put on this planet the day after animals and plants were. And also, how on earth would you know if hurricanes existed before humans? Angry much, BTW?

Me angry? No, I'm laughing all the way. How could one not appreciate the ridicilous nature of your beliefs?

Quote: it is very much contradictive to fight for dogs lives, but not humans.

No it isn't. Your attempts at logic are pitiful.

Finally, regarding the savage treatment of humans, I wonder any pro-lifer can afford a computer. I would presume you would invest every dollar not put in bread and water to go to China, to set up homes for homeless children, to get orphans out of 'killing factories', where they are killed after they are born.

Mr U

[Sailor Moon]

HomoUniversalis wrote: Sailor Moon wrote: Humans were put on this planet the day after animals and plants were. And also, how on earth would you know if hurricanes existed before humans? Angry much, BTW?

Me angry? No, I'm laughing all the way. How could one not appreciate the ridicilous nature of your beliefs?

Quote: it is very much contradictive to fight for dogs lives, but not humans.

No it isn't. Your attempts at logic are pitiful.

Finally, regarding the savage treatment of humans, I wonder any pro-lifer can afford a computer. I would presume you would invest every dollar not put in bread and water to go to China, to set up homes for homeless children, to get orphans out of 'killing factories', where they are killed after they are born.

Mr U

Thats not at all true. I think globally and act locally. I am a huge proponent for a free adoption system nationwide, WHEN abortion is made illegal. I am also a great proponent of childrens rights, and human rights, all around. I also dont appreciate your generalizations regarding pro lifers.

You honestly think that the maltreatment of children is the pro life sides fault? Actually, we push hard in the media for health care, employment, and equal rights. We think its abhorrent that children are ever even called "unwanted".. yet pro choice people (many, not all, but most) dont seem to connect the dots with their words and actions to the well being of children.

Hello? We arent the ones calling children unwanted. We are the ones who run the adoption centers. We are the ones out there volunteering and donating to national and international charities, the majority of the time. WE are the ones whos paychecks goes to the needy, and of course the capable people who refuse to work, as well..

Yes there are alot of pro lifers that are fond of money. Why? Because we know that we need to make more money to continue supporting the rest of the friggin world.
We DONT like to see people getting killed, but we are willing to spend millions of dollars to keep murderers off the streets, and put them to death before they can harm any more innocent people.

Dont brush your problems with accountability off on me, and the rest of the pro life crowd. I do not accept that for one second.

[jlrobe]

Sailor Moon wrote: When you consider that humans are mammals, the same way Dogs are, and find zero historical accounts of dogs sharing their homes with humans, while humans gladly cohabitate with dogs- it is very much contradictive to fight for dogs lives, but not humans.


Think about it a little more. GIve it some thought. Look up contradictory and paradoxical. Then look more closely at my responses.

I dont want to be say it for a third time, but I will i suppose.

It is a PARADOX because pro-choicers are fighting for human rights, such as autonomy of our own bodies. Pro-lifers feel that the right to life is greater than the right to bodily autonomoy while pro-choicers say that isnt true till after the fetus is detacthed from its mother. While being attached, it is a bodily autonomoy issue, when disconnected, it is a right to life isse.

Both are sides for human rights, which is a PARADOX!!!! to pro-lifers not a contradiction.

[HomoUniversalis]

Quote: We arent the ones calling children unwanted. We are the ones who run the adoption centers. We are the ones out there volunteering and donating to national and international charities, the majority of the time. WE are the ones whos paychecks goes to the needy, and of course the capable people who refuse to work, as well..

Yes there are alot of pro lifers that are fond of money. Why? Because we know that we need to make more money to continue supporting the rest of the friggin world.
We DONT like to see people getting killed, but we are willing to spend millions of dollars to keep murderers off the streets, and put them to death before they can harm any more innocent people.

Uhm.. This is what is generally referred to as a delusional disorder, nonbizarre. Although, one would first have to define that you don't have schizophrenia, of course. I'd say you suffer from a grandiose type.

Quote: Dont brush your problems with accountability off on me, and the rest of the pro life crowd. I do not accept that for one second.

Me? I'm a utilitarian. I don't have problems with accountability. I say let live and let die. I'm all for letting people make conscious decisions, and giving them the freedom to develop in a compelling environment :).

Mr U

[Sailor Moon]

HomoUniversalis wrote: Quote: We arent the ones calling children unwanted. We are the ones who run the adoption centers. We are the ones out there volunteering and donating to national and international charities, the majority of the time. WE are the ones whos paychecks goes to the needy, and of course the capable people who refuse to work, as well..

Yes there are alot of pro lifers that are fond of money. Why? Because we know that we need to make more money to continue supporting the rest of the friggin world.
We DONT like to see people getting killed, but we are willing to spend millions of dollars to keep murderers off the streets, and put them to death before they can harm any more innocent people.

Uhm.. This is what is generally referred to as a delusional disorder, nonbizarre. Although, one would first have to define that you don't have schizophrenia, of course. I'd say you suffer from a grandiose type.

Quote: Dont brush your problems with accountability off on me, and the rest of the pro life crowd. I do not accept that for one second.

Me? I'm a utilitarian. I don't have problems with accountability. I say let live and let die. I'm all for letting people make conscious decisions, and giving them the freedom to develop in a compelling environment :).

Mr U

Reported again.. you wont last long on here if you cant be civil.

[HomoUniversalis]

Quote: Reported again.. you wont last long on here if you cant be civil.

I'll take that from a moderator, thank you. Besides, if the stigmatising and demonising of professions and entire population groups and political ideologies is allowed here, I can hardly be blamed for exercising my professional opinion on your mental wellbeing.

Mr U

[Sailor Moon]

HomoUniversalis wrote: Quote: Reported again.. you wont last long on here if you cant be civil.

I'll take that from a moderator, thank you. Besides, if the stigmatising and demonising of professions and entire population groups and political ideologies is allowed here, I can hardly be blamed for exercising my professional opinion on your mental wellbeing.

Mr U

Reported again!

And anyone can report a post, thank you.

[WilliamTheGreat]

I agree I mean last time I checked animals weren't citizens. But some people are more concerned about them than their own species. How can we even think of helping other speices when we can't help ourselves. :dance:

[HomoUniversalis]

WilliamTheGreat wrote: I agree I mean last time I checked animals weren't citizens. But some people are more concerned about them than their own species. How can we even think of helping other speices when we can't help ourselves. :dance:

Please. How can we ever help our species when we can not help ourselves? Theories of egoism, objectivism all share a cult-like asocial nature. They are best read on 14 and overcome at 15, or completely looked over.

Quote: Reported again!

Your zeal reminds me of others of your religious affiliation.

Mr U