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Mangas_Coloradas



Joined: 16 Jan 2004
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:44 am    Post subject: Punishment for Adultery  

"The blasphemy called "Hadith & Sunna" has instituted stoning to death
as the punishment for married adulterers. This is not God's law. As
stated in 24:2, the punishment for adultery is whipping in public; a
hundred symbolic lashes. As pointed out above, the basic punishment is
social pressure and scandalizing the criminal. Whipping in public
achieves this goal."

Source: http://www.submission.org/death.html

Isn't this barbaric, whipping somone for adultery ?
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Zeeman



Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 703
Location: Between Boston and Bahrain

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 1:06 pm    Post subject:  

Some might argue that cheating on your wife is more animalistic..Or word of the month on this board"barbaric".
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eynon



Joined: 03 Jul 2004
Posts: 19950
Location: Minneapolis......

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 2:40 pm    Post subject:  

It's more humane then what most divorce lawyers will do to ya :lol:


(btw....what's wrong with a little barbarism :twisted: )
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Glorfindel



Joined: 06 Oct 2004
Posts: 485
Location: AlRiyadh

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 2:46 pm    Post subject:  

Eynon81 wrote: It's more humane then what most divorce lawyers will do to ya :lol:


looool

touche
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Glorfindel



Joined: 06 Oct 2004
Posts: 485
Location: AlRiyadh

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 2:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Punishment for Adultery  

Mangas_Coloradas wrote: "The blasphemy called "Hadith & Sunna" has instituted stoning to death
as the punishment for married adulterers. This is not God's law. As
stated in 24:2, the punishment for adultery is whipping in public; a
hundred symbolic lashes. As pointed out above, the basic punishment is
social pressure and scandalizing the criminal. Whipping in public
achieves this goal."

Source: http://www.submission.org/death.html

Isn't this barbaric, whipping somone for adultery ?

first of all ..another misunderstanding you have fallen into

whipping is the punishment for those who are not married and commit adultery

stoning is the punishment for those who wre married and committed adultery

and both are not barbaric... what's barbaric is sticking your penis in every woman you know...what's barbaric is not being able to know who your father is or who your brothers are and in some cases who your mother is...what's barbaric is your carefree life style that gives no regard to the meaning or consequenes of a sexual relationships..except maybe you fear of having STDs or getting pregnant
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jeechoscopy



Joined: 25 Nov 2005
Posts: 2116
Location: Republic of Partisan/

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 2:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Punishment for Adultery  

Mangas_Coloradas wrote: "The blasphemy called "Hadith & Sunna" has instituted stoning to death
as the punishment for married adulterers. This is not God's law. As
stated in 24:2, the punishment for adultery is whipping in public; a
hundred symbolic lashes. As pointed out above, the basic punishment is
social pressure and scandalizing the criminal. Whipping in public
achieves this goal."

Source: http://www.submission.org/death.html

Isn't this barbaric, whipping somone for adultery ?

Think, Jesus messiah said that thinking about sex is also a sin. In Islam it’s not a sin. Thinking wouldn’t accountable.

Though, strict punishments are referred in Islam for some psychological effects in society. But it doesn’t mean you go out to find people involved in adultery and spread the scandal in public. Hiding is very important to let a society adopt any addiction. Punishments must be taken according to social habits rather than individuality. A broad subject mixed with society psychology and administrations.

Think and chares!!
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Mangas_Coloradas



Joined: 16 Jan 2004
Posts: 119

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 4:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Punishment for Adultery  

Glorfindel wrote: Mangas_Coloradas wrote: "The blasphemy called "Hadith & Sunna" has instituted stoning to death
as the punishment for married adulterers. This is not God's law. As
stated in 24:2, the punishment for adultery is whipping in public; a
hundred symbolic lashes. As pointed out above, the basic punishment is
social pressure and scandalizing the criminal. Whipping in public
achieves this goal."

Source: http://www.submission.org/death.html

Isn't this barbaric, whipping somone for adultery ?

first of all ..another misunderstanding you have fallen into

whipping is the punishment for those who are not married and commit adultery

stoning is the punishment for those who wre married and committed adultery

and both are not barbaric... what's barbaric is sticking your penis in every woman you know...what's barbaric is not being able to know who your father is or who your brothers are and in some cases who your mother is...what's barbaric is your carefree life style that gives no regard to the meaning or consequenes of a sexual relationships..except maybe you fear of having STDs or getting pregnant

Are you saying that throwing stones at a woman untill she dies is not
barbaric ?
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eynon



Joined: 03 Jul 2004
Posts: 19950
Location: Minneapolis......

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 4:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Punishment for Adultery  

jeechoscopy wrote: Mangas_Coloradas wrote: "The blasphemy called "Hadith & Sunna" has instituted stoning to death
as the punishment for married adulterers. This is not God's law. As
stated in 24:2, the punishment for adultery is whipping in public; a
hundred symbolic lashes. As pointed out above, the basic punishment is
social pressure and scandalizing the criminal. Whipping in public
achieves this goal."

Source: http://www.submission.org/death.html

Isn't this barbaric, whipping somone for adultery ?

Think, Jesus messiah said that thinking about sex is also a sin. In Islam it’s not a sin. Thinking wouldn’t accountable.

Though, strict punishments are referred in Islam for some psychological effects in society. But it doesn’t mean you go out to find people involved in adultery and spread the scandal in public. Hiding is very important to let a society adopt any addiction. Punishments must be taken according to social habits rather than individuality. A broad subject mixed with society psychology and administrations.

Think and chares!!

Yes Jesus said it was a sin, but he made the statement as a condemnation of Pharasaic Legalism. Woops, sorry, off topic :!oops:
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Glorfindel



Joined: 06 Oct 2004
Posts: 485
Location: AlRiyadh

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 5:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Punishment for Adultery  

Mangas_Coloradas wrote: Glorfindel wrote: Mangas_Coloradas wrote: "The blasphemy called "Hadith & Sunna" has instituted stoning to death
as the punishment for married adulterers. This is not God's law. As
stated in 24:2, the punishment for adultery is whipping in public; a
hundred symbolic lashes. As pointed out above, the basic punishment is
social pressure and scandalizing the criminal. Whipping in public
achieves this goal."

Source: http://www.submission.org/death.html

Isn't this barbaric, whipping somone for adultery ?

first of all ..another misunderstanding you have fallen into

whipping is the punishment for those who are not married and commit adultery

stoning is the punishment for those who wre married and committed adultery

and both are not barbaric... what's barbaric is sticking your penis in every woman you know...what's barbaric is not being able to know who your father is or who your brothers are and in some cases who your mother is...what's barbaric is your carefree life style that gives no regard to the meaning or consequenes of a sexual relationships..except maybe you fear of having STDs or getting pregnant

Are you saying that throwing stones at a woman untill she dies is not
barbaric ?

yes thats wha I am saying

having a society infested with sexually transmitted diseases with men having to wear plastic rubbery things on their genitals in the hope for not getting AIDS or what not from a woman is not barbaric...right?

a woman not even being able to know how many men she has had sex with is not barbaric huh?

Norsemen would be ashamed of their sexual conquests if they were to see how sex is dealt with in this day and age
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jeechoscopy



Joined: 25 Nov 2005
Posts: 2116
Location: Republic of Partisan/

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 5:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Punishment for Adultery  

Eynon81 wrote: jeechoscopy wrote: Mangas_Coloradas wrote: "The blasphemy called "Hadith & Sunna" has instituted stoning to death
as the punishment for married adulterers. This is not God's law. As
stated in 24:2, the punishment for adultery is whipping in public; a
hundred symbolic lashes. As pointed out above, the basic punishment is
social pressure and scandalizing the criminal. Whipping in public
achieves this goal."

Source: http://www.submission.org/death.html

Isn't this barbaric, whipping somone for adultery ?

Think, Jesus messiah said that thinking about sex is also a sin. In Islam it’s not a sin. Thinking wouldn’t accountable.

Though, strict punishments are referred in Islam for some psychological effects in society. But it doesn’t mean you go out to find people involved in adultery and spread the scandal in public. Hiding is very important to let a society adopt any addiction. Punishments must be taken according to social habits rather than individuality. A broad subject mixed with society psychology and administrations.

Think and chares!!

Yes Jesus said it was a sin, but he made the statement as a condemnation of Pharasaic Legalism. Woops, sorry, off topic :!oops: Absolutely on the topic!!

A Christian would be punished simply on thinking...
A Muslim would get it on a fatal addict...

Think again!!
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eynon



Joined: 03 Jul 2004
Posts: 19950
Location: Minneapolis......

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 5:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Punishment for Adultery  

jeechoscopy wrote: Eynon81 wrote: jeechoscopy wrote: Mangas_Coloradas wrote: "The blasphemy called "Hadith & Sunna" has instituted stoning to death
as the punishment for married adulterers. This is not God's law. As
stated in 24:2, the punishment for adultery is whipping in public; a
hundred symbolic lashes. As pointed out above, the basic punishment is
social pressure and scandalizing the criminal. Whipping in public
achieves this goal."

Source: http://www.submission.org/death.html

Isn't this barbaric, whipping somone for adultery ?

Think, Jesus messiah said that thinking about sex is also a sin. In Islam it’s not a sin. Thinking wouldn’t accountable.

Though, strict punishments are referred in Islam for some psychological effects in society. But it doesn’t mean you go out to find people involved in adultery and spread the scandal in public. Hiding is very important to let a society adopt any addiction. Punishments must be taken according to social habits rather than individuality. A broad subject mixed with society psychology and administrations.

Think and chares!!

Yes Jesus said it was a sin, but he made the statement as a condemnation of Pharasaic Legalism. Woops, sorry, off topic :!oops: Absolutely on the topic!!

A Christian would be punished simply on thinking...
A Muslim would get it on a fatal addict...

Think again!!

well...the point was that your don't get punished for thinking, cause that would be un-just, also that it's impossible to totally avoid sin :-|
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jeechoscopy



Joined: 25 Nov 2005
Posts: 2116
Location: Republic of Partisan/

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Punishment for Adultery  

Eynon81 wrote: jeechoscopy wrote: Eynon81 wrote: jeechoscopy wrote: Mangas_Coloradas wrote: "The blasphemy called "Hadith & Sunna" has instituted stoning to death
as the punishment for married adulterers. This is not God's law. As
stated in 24:2, the punishment for adultery is whipping in public; a
hundred symbolic lashes. As pointed out above, the basic punishment is
social pressure and scandalizing the criminal. Whipping in public
achieves this goal."

Source: http://www.submission.org/death.html

Isn't this barbaric, whipping somone for adultery ?

Think, Jesus messiah said that thinking about sex is also a sin. In Islam it’s not a sin. Thinking wouldn’t accountable.

Though, strict punishments are referred in Islam for some psychological effects in society. But it doesn’t mean you go out to find people involved in adultery and spread the scandal in public. Hiding is very important to let a society adopt any addiction. Punishments must be taken according to social habits rather than individuality. A broad subject mixed with society psychology and administrations.

Think and chares!!

Yes Jesus said it was a sin, but he made the statement as a condemnation of Pharasaic Legalism. Woops, sorry, off topic :!oops: Absolutely on the topic!!

A Christian would be punished simply on thinking...
A Muslim would get it on a fatal addict...

Think again!!

well...the point was that your don't get punished for thinking, cause that would be un-just, also that it's impossible to totally avoid sin :-|

That's the difference.

Wanna keep away from sins...?

Never think again!!
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Saracen



Joined: 01 Dec 2005
Posts: 16427
Location: On Earth

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:29 pm    Post subject:  

It seems that "barbarity" is a relativistic term.
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eynon



Joined: 03 Jul 2004
Posts: 19950
Location: Minneapolis......

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Punishment for Adultery  

jeechoscopy wrote: Eynon81 wrote: jeechoscopy wrote: Eynon81 wrote: jeechoscopy wrote: Mangas_Coloradas wrote: "The blasphemy called "Hadith & Sunna" has instituted stoning to death
as the punishment for married adulterers. This is not God's law. As
stated in 24:2, the punishment for adultery is whipping in public; a
hundred symbolic lashes. As pointed out above, the basic punishment is
social pressure and scandalizing the criminal. Whipping in public
achieves this goal."

Source: http://www.submission.org/death.html

Isn't this barbaric, whipping somone for adultery ?

Think, Jesus messiah said that thinking about sex is also a sin. In Islam it’s not a sin. Thinking wouldn’t accountable.

Though, strict punishments are referred in Islam for some psychological effects in society. But it doesn’t mean you go out to find people involved in adultery and spread the scandal in public. Hiding is very important to let a society adopt any addiction. Punishments must be taken according to social habits rather than individuality. A broad subject mixed with society psychology and administrations.

Think and chares!!

Yes Jesus said it was a sin, but he made the statement as a condemnation of Pharasaic Legalism. Woops, sorry, off topic :!oops: Absolutely on the topic!!

A Christian would be punished simply on thinking...
A Muslim would get it on a fatal addict...

Think again!!

well...the point was that your don't get punished for thinking, cause that would be un-just, also that it's impossible to totally avoid sin :-|

That's the difference.

Wanna keep away from sins...?

Never think again!!

BUT you can't avoid thinking SO you can't avoid sin......
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jeechoscopy



Joined: 25 Nov 2005
Posts: 2116
Location: Republic of Partisan/

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Punishment for Adultery  

Eynon81 wrote: jeechoscopy wrote: Eynon81 wrote: jeechoscopy wrote: Eynon81 wrote: jeechoscopy wrote: Mangas_Coloradas wrote: "The blasphemy called "Hadith & Sunna" has instituted stoning to death
as the punishment for married adulterers. This is not God's law. As
stated in 24:2, the punishment for adultery is whipping in public; a
hundred symbolic lashes. As pointed out above, the basic punishment is
social pressure and scandalizing the criminal. Whipping in public
achieves this goal."

Source: http://www.submission.org/death.html

Isn't this barbaric, whipping somone for adultery ?

Think, Jesus messiah said that thinking about sex is also a sin. In Islam it’s not a sin. Thinking wouldn’t accountable.

Though, strict punishments are referred in Islam for some psychological effects in society. But it doesn’t mean you go out to find people involved in adultery and spread the scandal in public. Hiding is very important to let a society adopt any addiction. Punishments must be taken according to social habits rather than individuality. A broad subject mixed with society psychology and administrations.

Think and chares!!

Yes Jesus said it was a sin, but he made the statement as a condemnation of Pharasaic Legalism. Woops, sorry, off topic :!oops: Absolutely on the topic!!

A Christian would be punished simply on thinking...
A Muslim would get it on a fatal addict...

Think again!!

well...the point was that your don't get punished for thinking, cause that would be un-just, also that it's impossible to totally avoid sin :-|

That's the difference.

Wanna keep away from sins...?

Never think again!!

BUT you can't avoid thinking SO you can't avoid sin......

So, there is a solution...

“Start doing and get rewards…”

Or

Beloved Mohammad said that you’d be granted if you “think” about a good job to do…

Think Good!!
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