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wormwood · Joined: 25 Sep 2005 Posts: 2269 Location: The P-Brane

I know at least a few of you have read some of the 12th planet or some of his works. What did you think? Does anyone think that he could be right ?

I am not sure how much I agree with some of his interpretations, but overall it is a fascinating concept that would completely change the way we looked at our world. It sounds like a far-fetched theory, but no more than most religions if you think about it. Actually Z.S. 's interpretations, if correct, make MORE sense than contemporary religions IMO.

Kt · Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 3806

I really have nothing more to say than that i used to treat Zecharia Sitchen's theories as fact. But these days I don't see the universe how he does.

wormwood · Joined: 25 Sep 2005 Posts: 2269 Location: The P-Brane

Quote: I really have nothing more to say than that i used to treat Zecharia Sitchen's theories as fact. But these days I don't see the universe how he does. They are compelling theories. What made you stray?

To me, it seems like he missed a few elements, and probably used huge leaps in logic to justify some of his interpretations, but some of his points sound right on.

George W Bush · Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:43 am Post subject: Re: Zecharia Sitchen

wormwood wrote: I know at least a few of you have read some of the 12th planet or some of his works. What did you think? Does anyone think that he could be right ?

I am not sure how much I agree with some of his interpretations, but overall it is a fascinating concept that would completely change the way we looked at our world. It sounds like a far-fetched theory, but no more than most religions if you think about it. Actually Z.S. 's interpretations, if correct, make MORE sense than contemporary religions IMO.

the thing i like about sitchen is his literal investigation into what he writes. archaeology, interpreting ancient script, etc. are all respectable attributes to his claim.

wormwood · Joined: 25 Sep 2005 Posts: 2269 Location: The P-Brane

Quote: the thing i like about sitchen is his literal investigation into what he writes. archaeology, interpreting ancient script, etc. are all respectable attributes to his claim True, and his interpretations also explain Judaism, Lucifarianism, and every major pagan religion. Do you believe in the Nibiru aspect?

George W Bush · Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 2:05 pm Post subject:

wormwood wrote: Quote: the thing i like about sitchen is his literal investigation into what he writes. archaeology, interpreting ancient script, etc. are all respectable attributes to his claim True, and his interpretations also explain Judaism, Lucifarianism, and every major pagan religion. Do you believe in the Nibiru aspect?

its feasible in context of his research.
i'm not sure how earth would stand up to another planet getting so close to it - which, as i understand it, is the legacy behind Nibiru.
Then again, weve never seen such thing to research it - so, it stands as possible in my book. and fascinating.

wormwood · Joined: 25 Sep 2005 Posts: 2269 Location: The P-Brane

Quote: its feasible in context of his research.
i'm not sure how earth would stand up to another planet getting so close to it - which, as i understand it, is the legacy behind Nibiru.
Then again, weve never seen such thing to research it - so, it stands as possible in my book. and fascinating. They've recently discovered a body that has been confirmed to be slightly larger than pluto on the outer rim of our solar system... I doubt it's Nibiru...but it is coincidental that this is around the time Nibiru should be appearing. I guess time will tell... I guess my next question is...if it is all true, would you bow to your new alien overlords, or would you try to revolt? 8:)

Kt · Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 3806

wormwood wrote: Quote: its feasible in context of his research.
i'm not sure how earth would stand up to another planet getting so close to it - which, as i understand it, is the legacy behind Nibiru.
Then again, weve never seen such thing to research it - so, it stands as possible in my book. and fascinating. They've recently discovered a body that has been confirmed to be slightly larger than pluto on the outer rim of our solar system... I doubt it's Nibiru...but it is coincidental that this is around the time Nibiru should be appearing. I guess time will tell... I guess my next question is...if it is all true, would you bow to your new alien overlords, or would you try to revolt? 8:)

I've been bowing to my alien overlords already, so it's nothing new for me. As for Nibiru, I doubt there is any Nibiru in our solar system (although I used to believe it was returning soon) even if there was however, I'd bet you a million dollars it's uninhabited. The sumerian gods were physical beings, made of flesh and blood just like you and I, but flesh and blood dies, and now they live in spirit, that is my belief.

Here's a nice topic for discussion, the White Powder Gold, which is said to hold the key to a very long lifetime, and has qualities of DNA preservation. There are also theories that this is what kept the gods alive for so long.

wormwood · Joined: 25 Sep 2005 Posts: 2269 Location: The P-Brane

Quote: I've been bowing to my alien overlords already, so it's nothing new for me. As for Nibiru, I doubt there is any Nibiru in our solar system (although I used to believe it was returning soon) even if there was however, I'd bet you a million dollars it's uninhabited. The sumerian gods were physical beings, made of flesh and blood just like you and I, but flesh and blood dies, and now they live in spirit, that is my belief.

Here's a nice topic for discussion, the White Powder Gold, which is said to hold the key to a very long lifetime, and has qualities of DNA preservation. There are also theories that this is what kept the gods alive for so long. True, and they were here to mine gold according to Sitchen. Also, Silver has many qualities which have been found to fight disease. Maybe this is the true reason that gold is precious to every culture on earth 8:)

Kt · Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 3806

wormwood wrote: Quote: I've been bowing to my alien overlords already, so it's nothing new for me. As for Nibiru, I doubt there is any Nibiru in our solar system (although I used to believe it was returning soon) even if there was however, I'd bet you a million dollars it's uninhabited. The sumerian gods were physical beings, made of flesh and blood just like you and I, but flesh and blood dies, and now they live in spirit, that is my belief.

Here's a nice topic for discussion, the White Powder Gold, which is said to hold the key to a very long lifetime, and has qualities of DNA preservation. There are also theories that this is what kept the gods alive for so long. True, and they were here to mine gold according to Sitchen. Also, Silver has many qualities which have been found to fight disease. Maybe this is the true reason that gold is precious to every culture on earth 8:)
When i get a job again i think i'll buy some WPG.

wormwood · Joined: 25 Sep 2005 Posts: 2269 Location: The P-Brane

Quote: When i get a job again i think i'll buy some WPG. Hey can I get a dub of WPG off of you? 8:)

Seriously though Shim, what made you change your mind about Sitchen?

Kt · Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 3806

wormwood wrote: Quote: When i get a job again i think i'll buy some WPG. Hey can I get a dub of WPG off of you? 8:)

Seriously though Shim, what made you change your mind about Sitchen?

It's honestly been a long time ago, and I am not quite sure, many things I would agree with sitchin on, but many I would not.
It's been so long i forget all of the things he said that i thought was absurd.

EDIT: BTW, i like your horned god. Very pretty, but sure to freak some people on this forum out who will think you are some satan worshipper. But that's their problem, no?

wormwood · Joined: 25 Sep 2005 Posts: 2269 Location: The P-Brane

Quote: EDIT: BTW, i like your horned god. Very pretty, but sure to freak some people on this forum out who will think you are some satan worshipper. But that's their problem, no? 8:)

It is a symbol from the knights templar, who were actually a very holy order...sadly they were also a threat to the church so they were destroyed.

Edit: Some people have suggested that baphomet is a kabbalistic cipher for the Gnostic Goddess Sophia, or a variant name for the Greek Titan Goddess of wisdom "Metis."

Kt · Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 3806

wormwood wrote: Quote: EDIT: BTW, i like your horned god. Very pretty, but sure to freak some people on this forum out who will think you are some satan worshipper. But that's their problem, no? 8:)

It is a symbol from the knights templar, who were actually a very holy order...sadly they were also a threat to the church so they were destroyed.

Edit: Some people have suggested that baphomet is a kabbalistic cipher for the Gnostic Goddess Sophia, or a variant name for the Greek Titan Goddess of wisdom "Metis."

Yep, I know this, which is why i said people will "think" you are some satan worshipper :)

wormwood · Joined: 25 Sep 2005 Posts: 2269 Location: The P-Brane

Quote: Yep, I know this, which is why i said people will "think" you are some satan worshipper :lol: Touche

George W Bush · Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:44 pm Post subject:

wormwood wrote: Quote: I've been bowing to my alien overlords already, so it's nothing new for me. As for Nibiru, I doubt there is any Nibiru in our solar system (although I used to believe it was returning soon) even if there was however, I'd bet you a million dollars it's uninhabited. The sumerian gods were physical beings, made of flesh and blood just like you and I, but flesh and blood dies, and now they live in spirit, that is my belief.

Here's a nice topic for discussion, the White Powder Gold, which is said to hold the key to a very long lifetime, and has qualities of DNA preservation. There are also theories that this is what kept the gods alive for so long. True, and they were here to mine gold according to Sitchen. Also, Silver has many qualities which have been found to fight disease. Maybe this is the true reason that gold is precious to every culture on earth 8:)

answering this late...so here goes

yes, they would be aliens - aliens to this earth. ide be interested to understand if we were unexpected, or planned. sort of like a pregnancy.
like, do they have that much advanced technology to create us?
or have they adopted simple laws of biology to cast us here, like some random, gamble of spreading their civilization.

ide only hope for their happiness of our civilization - and some stories about theirs.

forthegreatergood · Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 366

wormwood wrote: Quote: the thing i like about sitchen is his literal investigation into what he writes. archaeology, interpreting ancient script, etc. are all respectable attributes to his claim True, and his interpretations also explain Judaism, Lucifarianism, and every major pagan religion. Do you believe in the Nibiru aspect?

Don't you think it is possible that Zecharia Sitchen misinterpreted some of the cuneiform texts? Such as Nibiru being another planet. Nibiru is analagous to Nippur/Nippuru/Nibruki/, a city in Sumeria. So it could have been a place far off, not far off the planet. Other misinterpretation could be beings riding in chariots going to other places such as the Abzu/Apsu(which is thought to have meant Africa), while Sitchen theorizes that these chariots could be spaceships where extraterrestrials came from a distant place. You have to comprehend the semantics. They used ships(vehicles) through space(from one city to another?) and extraterrestrials could mean beings from another city that they were unfamiliar with at that time.

wormwood · Joined: 25 Sep 2005 Posts: 2269 Location: The P-Brane

Quote: Don't you think it is possible that Zecharia Sitchen misinterpreted some of the cuneiform texts? It is very possible...there is something a bit off about the theories...but if you look at the books he uses for sources and get a translation you can see what he did. He went through every variation of the word until it fit his idea...but most of the words I found DID fit (at least one of their meanings) with his account. I have seen only a few scholarly attempts to debunk him and most center around the translation of Nephilim and don't go much deeper. At any rate he does present some compelling theories, much of which he finds basis for in the tablets.

John · Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 7:23 pm Post subject:

wormwood wrote: Quote: I really have nothing more to say than that i used to treat Zecharia Sitchen's theories as fact. But these days I don't see the universe how he does. They are compelling theories. What made you stray?

To me, it seems like he missed a few elements, and probably used huge leaps in logic to justify some of his interpretations, but some of his points sound right on.

I've found that to be true with most of my ventures into the occult. Most of them are supported in truth but skewed just enough to cause the conclusion to be 180 degrees out of phase. The strange thing about my experiences in these areas is that when I started to connect the dots and see the big picture, it helped solidify my trust in the Truth found in the Bible.

Kt · Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 3806

George W Bush wrote: wormwood wrote: Quote: I've been bowing to my alien overlords already, so it's nothing new for me. As for Nibiru, I doubt there is any Nibiru in our solar system (although I used to believe it was returning soon) even if there was however, I'd bet you a million dollars it's uninhabited. The sumerian gods were physical beings, made of flesh and blood just like you and I, but flesh and blood dies, and now they live in spirit, that is my belief.

Here's a nice topic for discussion, the White Powder Gold, which is said to hold the key to a very long lifetime, and has qualities of DNA preservation. There are also theories that this is what kept the gods alive for so long. True, and they were here to mine gold according to Sitchen. Also, Silver has many qualities which have been found to fight disease. Maybe this is the true reason that gold is precious to every culture on earth 8:)

answering this late...so here goes

yes, they would be aliens - aliens to this earth. ide be interested to understand if we were unexpected, or planned. sort of like a pregnancy.
like, do they have that much advanced technology to create us?
or have they adopted simple laws of biology to cast us here, like some random, gamble of spreading their civilization.

ide only hope for their happiness of our civilization - and some stories about theirs.
Dude, it's all here (minus the missing fragments) http://www-etcsl.orient.ox.ac.uk/edition2/etcslbycat.php
According to the myth (the texts are written by humans, and are therefore not completely reliable, but oh well) the creation of humanity is VERY deliberate.