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EugenicHegemony · Joined: 28 Jul 2005 Posts: 4658

If it's true that you're (man/woman) who's (born) gay by natural design, then why can you procreate? It would seem to me that if you weren't put on this earth to coitus, then you wouldn't even be capable of procreation. Why aren't all homosexuals sterile?

Demonic Spoon · Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 6767 Location: Ohio

Becuase sexual mentality is different from phsyical sexuality. THey are two different mechanisms of the same biological purpose-reproduction.

A hormonal imbalance in the brain, causing homosexuality, would not affect the production of eggs/sperm.

Melchior · Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 9263 Location: Palm Beach

I think it just comes down to the fact that nature isn't perfect. Not every biological design has purpose or efficiency.

Just another reason why I don't believe in God:

EugenicHegemony · Joined: 28 Jul 2005 Posts: 4658

Demonic Spoon wrote: Becuase sexual mentality is different from phsyical sexuality. THey are two different mechanisms of the same biological purpose-reproduction.

A hormonal imbalance in the brain, causing homosexuality, would not affect the production of eggs/sperm.

Ah, and it's supposed to be 100% natural, ergo no, "hormonal imbalance in the brain causing homosexuality". If it's all 100% natural, and this is as natural as the color of your eyes, then it would follow that sterilization of homosexuals would also be a 100% natural, and all would be born that way. If they are never to procreate because that's what nature intended then they would all be naturally sterile.

Demonic Spoon · Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 6767 Location: Ohio

Nature is not a thinking entity. You're missing that point. There are TWO mechanisms at work. Just because ONE is f****d up doesn't mean the other is.

floridaguy · Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Posts: 37 Location: Florida

EugenicHegemony wrote: If it's true that you're (man/woman) who's (born) gay by natural design, then why can you procreate? It would seem to me that if you weren't put on this earth to coitus, then you wouldn't even be capable of procreation. Why aren't all homosexuals sterile? Do women who reach metapause become lesbians? By using your logic they must. Or do you think they there could be another reason to have sex other than to procreate? Is that the only reason that straight people have sex?

spearsy23 · Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 5431 Location: Fulton, Ks

Because a gay person can still choose to reproduce, even though they are gay. Sperm donations or impregnating a surrogate mother.

Enoch · Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 8556

EugenicHegemony wrote: Demonic Spoon wrote: Becuase sexual mentality is different from phsyical sexuality. THey are two different mechanisms of the same biological purpose-reproduction.

A hormonal imbalance in the brain, causing homosexuality, would not affect the production of eggs/sperm.

Ah, and it's supposed to be 100% natural, ergo no, "hormonal imbalance in the brain causing homosexuality". If it's all 100% natural, and this is as natural as the color of your eyes, then it would follow that sterilization of homosexuals would also be a 100% natural, and all would be born that way. If they are never to procreate because that's what nature intended then they would all be naturally sterile.

You are making a false connection. Sexual attraction and orientation are not tied to biological ability for reproduction. Just because I don't enjoy sleeping with women doesn't mean that, should I ever sleep with a woman, she couldn't become pregnant.

Gay men and women DO have sex with the opposite gender, and produce offspring. Sometimes it is through failed attempts at heterosexual relationships, sometimes it is "out of curiosity," sometimes merely to produce a child. In addition, today's modern methods of reproductive assistance have made it so that sexual intercourse is no longer even a necessary component of procreation.

And, as I said in the lounge, this question CAN be tied to "why do men have nipples?" There is no biological need for nipples on men, so why are we born with them?

You are attempting to personify nature and biology into a "rational" entity. In addition, you are making the argument that one genetic difference should have compounded effects on seperate biological functions. If, as studies have suggested, homosexuality is due to a difference in cerebral functioning and chemistry it would not stand to reason that the chemistry would be similary altered in the reproductive organs. Blindness does not cause deafness, and neither would mental differences cause sterility.

Enoch · Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 8556

Demonic Spoon wrote: Nature is not a thinking entity. You're missing that point. There are TWO mechanisms at work. Just because ONE is f****d up doesn't mean the other is.

We are f****d up?

Nelson · Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:08 pm Post subject:

Why do you have an appendix?

spearsy23 · Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 5431 Location: Fulton, Ks

UrielsFyre wrote: Demonic Spoon wrote: Nature is not a thinking entity. You're missing that point. There are TWO mechanisms at work. Just because ONE is f****d up doesn't mean the other is.

We are f****d up?

I think he was saying your sexual mentality is f****d up, which would be correct in a non-degrading sort of way. Because being homosexual is a minority thing.

Enoch · Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 8556

The Underground wrote: UrielsFyre wrote: Demonic Spoon wrote: Nature is not a thinking entity. You're missing that point. There are TWO mechanisms at work. Just because ONE is f****d up doesn't mean the other is.

We are f****d up?

I think he was saying your sexual mentality is f****d up, which would be correct in a non-degrading sort of way. Because being homosexual is a minority thing.

Then I suggest he find a better way to say it. Saying a group is "f****d up" is not likely to help convince anyone of a position.

Demonic Spoon · Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 6767 Location: Ohio

Homosexuality is biologically wrong. That's a fact. Sex is for reproduction, and attraction is ment to aid in that.

spearsy23 · Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 5431 Location: Fulton, Ks

UrielsFyre wrote: The Underground wrote: UrielsFyre wrote: Demonic Spoon wrote: Nature is not a thinking entity. You're missing that point. There are TWO mechanisms at work. Just because ONE is f****d up doesn't mean the other is.

We are f****d up?

I think he was saying your sexual mentality is f****d up, which would be correct in a non-degrading sort of way. Because being homosexual is a minority thing.

Then I suggest he find a better way to say it. Saying a group is "f****d up" is not likely to help convince anyone of a position.

Well the point is, I don't think he meant anyone to take offense to it. I think his social skills are just a little lacking. :-D

Demonic Spoon · Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 6767 Location: Ohio

No, I simply state the facts and don't sugar coat them to the PC.

Kt · Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 3806

Demonic Spoon wrote: Homosexuality is biologically wrong. That's a fact. Sex is for reproduction, and attraction is ment to aid in that.
If sex is for reproduction what are condoms for?

Demonic Spoon · Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 6767 Location: Ohio

BIOLOGICALLY sex is for reproduction. Humans have created other uses for it.

Kt · Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 3806

Demonic Spoon wrote: BIOLOGICALLY sex is for reproduction. Humans have created other uses for it.
During sex chemicals are released in my brain causing me to experience pleasure. Sex is good clean fun, good for your body and mind.
All my former statements involved Biology.

Demonic Spoon · Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 6767 Location: Ohio

It's fun to encourage it. How many people have been born because people had sex for fun? Biology at work. If sex waS NOT fun, the species would die out

Enoch · Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 8556

Demonic Spoon wrote: No, I simply state the facts and don't sugar coat them to the PC.

Which is interesting since no one can prove, one way or another, a reason or cause for homosexuality. Therefore, you are stating conjecture.