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Bull · Joined: 14 Jun 2005 Posts: 3047 Location: North Carolina

Yep...Star Wars is true :lol: . I feel sorry for the poor man on the other side of that thing. And what's up with the article's talk of space warface?!?!? I've heard about the weaponization of space...but this is unreal!!!

Laser Guns almost ready

For real though, whatever happened to all those stories about future weapons being safe and won't kill :roll: . I knew that was just a dream...we don't have the ability to create non-lethal weapons.

Xenophen · Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:37 am Post subject:

Did Reagan dream something like this up during his presidency?

Nine_Enigmas · Joined: 10 Mar 2005 Posts: 2312

We're developing lots of non lethal weapons, there's people researching harmonic/sonic weapons that can resonate at frequency which pain nerves are sensitive to.

It's just that those kind of weapons are more in keeping with police actions, rather than weapons of war. Lasers, Xasers and even Masers are very real, and can have devastating effects when turned on human beings. However, they also have enormous industrial and scientific applications. In fact, the economization of hydrogen/deuterium fusion are dependent almost entirely on the advancement of laser science.

G.A.Pster · Joined: 19 Dec 2004 Posts: 83 Location: OR, US of A

Um, what’s this have to do with animal rights/environment?

G.A.Pster · Joined: 19 Dec 2004 Posts: 83 Location: OR, US of A

Sorry, I didn’t notice this, section dealt with scientific stuff.

anselfir · Joined: 16 Apr 2005 Posts: 23113 Location: ZzZzZzZz

gogo 100mw laser cannon ftw!

micfranklin

Bull wrote: Yep...Star Wars is true :lol: . I feel sorry for the poor man on the other side of that thing. And what's up with the article's talk of space warface?!?!? I've heard about the weaponization of space...but this is unreal!!!

Laser Guns almost ready

For real though, whatever happened to all those stories about future weapons being safe and won't kill :roll: . I knew that was just a dream...we don't have the ability to create non-lethal weapons.

Yaaaayyy! I can be a stormtrooper now and shoot people with laser guns. Seriously, that'd be pretty awesome.

Pzatchok · Joined: 15 Nov 2004 Posts: 7809

Its first arial field tests against ground targets are planned for June 2006. With a range of 15 miles it should make a good show.

A small fleat is planned for 2008 and so far all tests and plans have been ahead of schedule.

The next step is satilite based ant ballistic weapons. Who can tell the US not to place them in space?

Starwars anyone?

Nine_Enigmas · Joined: 10 Mar 2005 Posts: 2312

Pzatchok wrote: Its first arial field tests against ground targets are planned for June 2006. With a range of 15 miles it should make a good show.

A small fleat is planned for 2008 and so far all tests and plans have been ahead of schedule.

The next step is satilite based ant ballistic weapons. Who can tell the US not to place them in space?

Starwars anyone?

Well, we kind of signed several treaties to maintain the demilitarization of space.

Pzatchok · Joined: 15 Nov 2004 Posts: 7809

With who?

Russia has already let the US out of all Soviet union treaties. Why do you think we have both had our recient jump in weaponry?

bob.appleyard · Joined: 15 Oct 2005 Posts: 7901 Location: Manchestar, innit

Nine_Enigmas wrote: We're developing lots of non lethal weapons, there's people researching harmonic/sonic weapons that can resonate at frequency which pain nerves are sensitive to.

It's just that those kind of weapons are more in keeping with police actions, rather than weapons of war. Lasers, Xasers and even Masers are very real, and can have devastating effects when turned on human beings. However, they also have enormous industrial and scientific applications. In fact, the economization of hydrogen/deuterium fusion are dependent almost entirely on the advancement of laser science.

Lasers have also been posited as a prupulsion device, capable of reaching escape velocity. My mate's dad owns a biotech business. At its heart is a mass spectrometer, which requires a laser to operate.

Lasers are cool.

ieatfood · Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 6505

Pzatchok wrote:

Starwars anyone?

Dooooooo.....Dooooooo.. Doo Doo Doo Doooooooo......Dooooooo...Doo Doo Doo Doooooooo.....Dooooooo.......

Wait---if the US is the empire, who will be the rebels???

Luigidel · Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 150

ieatfood wrote: Pzatchok wrote:

Starwars anyone?

Dooooooo.....Dooooooo.. Doo Doo Doo Doooooooo......Dooooooo...Doo Doo Doo Doooooooo.....Dooooooo.......

Wait---if the US is the empire, who will be the rebels???

Well the middle east would be a great place to start. They're only explanation would be Allah, so they'd probably accept it willingly. :-D

Gdawg007 · Joined: 06 Jul 2004 Posts: 15337 Location: Albuquerque, NM

Would a laser weapon be terribly leathal? I mean, bullets kill mostly because they cause bleeding. But a laser could cauterize much of the wound, in theory, making it a less lethal weapons possibly?

And speaking of Star Wars, how come when Luke gets his hand cut off by a lightsaber he's fine, no profuse bleeding, and yet Qui Gon Jin gets one stab in the gut and dies within minutes? I mean, if the lightsaber cauterizes the wound as it cuts off the hand, why not as it enters the bowl? :lol:

Pzatchok · Joined: 15 Nov 2004 Posts: 7809

The lasers talked about in the military write ups are not used as anti personel but as anti material. Missles, tanks, bunkers, airplanes, ships, and buildings. Having the ability to target and destroy anything in your line of sight inside 15 miles in a powerfull weapon and a great force multiplier.
And thats inside the dense atmosphere. Imagine if we placed the system in a satilite and used it to stop ballistic missles at apogee before they turned and came back into the atmosphere. ICBM's would be useless against us. Enemy satilites would be useless also. We would control space unquestioningly.

As for QuiGon. If you look he was hit in the chest and you can not cauterize a large vein. Just the small ones.

anselfir · Joined: 16 Apr 2005 Posts: 23113 Location: ZzZzZzZz

Gdawg007 wrote: Would a laser weapon be terribly leathal? I mean, bullets kill mostly because they cause bleeding. But a laser could cauterize much of the wound, in theory, making it a less lethal weapons possibly?

And speaking of Star Wars, how come when Luke gets his hand cut off by a lightsaber he's fine, no profuse bleeding, and yet Qui Gon Jin gets one stab in the gut and dies within minutes? I mean, if the lightsaber cauterizes the wound as it cuts off the hand, why not as it enters the bowl? :lol: it's not anti-personnel.

ieatfood · Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 6505

Gdawg007 wrote:

And speaking of Star Wars, how come when Luke gets his hand cut off by a lightsaber he's fine, no profuse bleeding, and yet Qui Gon Jin gets one stab in the gut and dies within minutes? I mean, if the lightsaber cauterizes the wound as it cuts off the hand, why not as it enters the bowl? :lol:

if you cauterize the abdominal aorta, you die

cap'n queasy · Joined: 15 May 2004 Posts: 34968

Gdawg007 wrote: Would a laser weapon be terribly leathal? I mean, bullets kill mostly because they cause bleeding. But a laser could cauterize much of the wound, in theory, making it a less lethal weapons possibly?

And speaking of Star Wars, how come when Luke gets his hand cut off by a lightsaber he's fine, no profuse bleeding, and yet Qui Gon Jin gets one stab in the gut and dies within minutes? I mean, if the lightsaber cauterizes the wound as it cuts off the hand, why not as it enters the bowl? :lol:

I think getting cut in half would probably be fairly lethal. :wink:

mojo · Joined: 08 Sep 2005 Posts: 5562 Location: Dreamland, NC

Bull wrote: Yep...Star Wars is true :lol: . I feel sorry for the poor man on the other side of that thing. And what's up with the article's talk of space warface?!?!? I've heard about the weaponization of space...but this is unreal!!!

Laser Guns almost ready

For real though, whatever happened to all those stories about future weapons being safe and won't kill :roll: . I knew that was just a dream...we don't have the ability to create non-lethal weapons.

Actually your own article says something about this kind of non-lethal technology.

Quote: Then there’s Active Denial Technology — a non-lethal way to use millimeter-wave electromagnetic energy to stop, deter and turn back an advancing adversary. This technology, supported by the U.S. Marines, uses a beam of millimeter waves to heat a foe’s skin, causing severe pain without damage, and making the adversary flee the scene.