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Enoch · Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 8261

Reincarnation is something in which I have a firm, unwavering, belief. From various dreams I have had, repeatedly, and cues given through hypnosis (which confirmed my dreams), I know of three former lives I have led. While some may not believe in reincarnation, I know, in my heart and soul, that I have been here at least three times prior.

My question is:

Do you believe in reincarnation? If so, do you have any knowledge about any of your former lives?

XPhile2868 · Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:38 am Post subject:

Well, when we are dead, we begin to decompose in the ground, right? So what is it that is re-incarnated?

Enoch · Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 8261

XPhile2868 wrote: Well, when we are dead, we begin to decompose in the ground, right? So what is it that is re-incarnated?

Our bodies decompose, but it is our spirits, souls, or energies (whichever term you use) which comes back to live another life in a different body.

The body is merely a shell.

DarkMerlin · Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:02 pm Post subject:

I had a period where I was really into reincarnation and uncovered memories from about six or seven distinct past lives. Then there is my adeptitude for teaching certain magickal techniques that I have never actually learned or practiced with success myself. I also suspect that my unusual love of caves may be rooted in past lives (I feel more at home in a cave I've only been in for a few minutes that I ever have in any house I've lived in).

Still, upon further reflection, while I certainly suspect that there may be something to claims of reincarnation and past lives (especially when we get into young children remembering being people who died just before they were born: rare but convincing cases), I feel that my past life memories could very well be fabricated by my subconscious to represent certain aspects of my personality. So, I make no final judgements.

F'losrix · Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:00 pm Post subject:

I'm inclined to believe in reincarnation, but am skepitcal on the subject of whether people can discover their past lives through hypnosis. I'm not particularly trusting of anything discovered under hypnosis for that matter.

I used to experience deja vu a lot, of the sort where upon meeting someone for the first time (or even passing strangers) it would feel like they were someone I had met or knew before but couldn't quite place. Not just based on their physical appearance, but as though I were recognizing something intangible about them, like their soul.

Sometimes I'll experience something that feels like a memory, but can't place as having ever taken place in my present lifetime. It's usually very fleeting and I find I'm unable to recall any details if I consciously turn my attention in that direction. Like something sitting in your peripheral vision that disappears when you try to look at it face-on.

wormwood · Joined: 25 Sep 2005 Posts: 2269 Location: The P-Brane

It is hard to make a final judgment call on reincarnation, but I lean toward the possibility. The reason I believe this is because of physics. Your thoughts, feelings, and "personality" are electrical impulses firing back and forth across synapses. In essence "you" are energy. Energy can not be created or destroyed, it can only change forms. 8:)

John · Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:59 pm Post subject:

UrielsFyre wrote: XPhile2868 wrote: Well, when we are dead, we begin to decompose in the ground, right? So what is it that is re-incarnated?

Our bodies decompose, but it is our spirits, souls, or energies (whichever term you use) which comes back to live another life in a different body.

The body is merely a shell.

That seems like it would have to be organized by an intelligent power. No?

Enoch · Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 8261

John wrote: UrielsFyre wrote: XPhile2868 wrote: Well, when we are dead, we begin to decompose in the ground, right? So what is it that is re-incarnated?

Our bodies decompose, but it is our spirits, souls, or energies (whichever term you use) which comes back to live another life in a different body.

The body is merely a shell.

That seems like it would have to be organized by an intelligent power. No?

Yes, it is. Once we die we return to the other side to decide on when and where to reincarnate, as to best continue our path of teaching and learning. Once that path is over, we return to the All.

BassistVIV · Joined: 09 Jul 2005 Posts: 847 Location: Florida

I haven't completely disregarded the idea of reincarnation, but I believe that we don't know what happens when we die until we die.

John · Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:52 pm Post subject:

UrielsFyre wrote: John wrote: UrielsFyre wrote: XPhile2868 wrote: Well, when we are dead, we begin to decompose in the ground, right? So what is it that is re-incarnated?

Our bodies decompose, but it is our spirits, souls, or energies (whichever term you use) which comes back to live another life in a different body.

The body is merely a shell.

That seems like it would have to be organized by an intelligent power. No?

Yes, it is. Once we die we return to the other side to decide on when and where to reincarnate, as to best continue our path of teaching and learning. Once that path is over, we return to the All.

The "All" what? Sounds pointless. Returning to the "all" would mean to lose individual identity.

Which would invalidate to whole purpose of living all the lives.

Enoch · Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 8261

John wrote: UrielsFyre wrote: John wrote: UrielsFyre wrote: XPhile2868 wrote: Well, when we are dead, we begin to decompose in the ground, right? So what is it that is re-incarnated?

Our bodies decompose, but it is our spirits, souls, or energies (whichever term you use) which comes back to live another life in a different body.

The body is merely a shell.

That seems like it would have to be organized by an intelligent power. No?

Yes, it is. Once we die we return to the other side to decide on when and where to reincarnate, as to best continue our path of teaching and learning. Once that path is over, we return to the All.

The "All" what? Sounds pointless. Returning to the "all" would mean to lose individual identity.

Which would invalidate to whole purpose of living all the lives.

You misunderstand. The All is the divine. What you would call God. The God and the Goddess, in Wicca, are elements of the All.

maskedJR · Joined: 12 Feb 2005 Posts: 2004 Location: kansas

I have wondered about reincarnation myself, but I am more fascinated by those who have had near death experiences. Each one seems to experience much of the same, as in "oneness" complete joy and love that is beyond description. Within these individual experiences, each one said it was life changing, as in how the viewed the world and life in general. Definitely a positive experience.

I hold to the belief that our Creator or Supreme Being is exactly how they have described. Love beyond description, peace and joy. Nothing to be feared at all.

wormwood · Joined: 25 Sep 2005 Posts: 2269 Location: The P-Brane

Quote: The "All" what? Sounds pointless. Returning to the "all" would mean to lose individual identity.

Which would invalidate to whole purpose of living all the lives Well this is obviously John's first life 8:)

Losing your identity is the goal, and not invalidating. You only want to keep your identity out of fear. The idea of losing "yourself" to become part of the greater whole, is not a pleasant thought for you because you feel connected to your "self" as you know it. Did you ever think, maybe being a part of the whole is infinitely better than being completely disconnected and individuated from God?

John · Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:29 pm Post subject:

wormwood wrote: Quote: The "All" what? Sounds pointless. Returning to the "all" would mean to lose individual identity.

Which would invalidate to whole purpose of living all the lives Well this is obviously John's first life 8:)

Losing your identity is the goal, and not invalidating. You only want to keep your identity out of fear. The idea of losing "yourself" to become part of the greater whole, is not a pleasant thought for you because you feel connected to your "self" as you know it. Did you ever think, maybe being a part of the whole is infinitely better than being completely disconnected and individuated from God?

Not hardly.

It's about love and relationship. In order for relationship and love between God and us to be possible. There had to be a separation so to speak... A time of existence where we had to believe in Him through Faith. If this wasn't so...we would have always been saturated in God's love, not ever being able to develop any sense of self...therefore no relationship or love with God would be possible in our existence.

The whole “melt into the nirvana of nothingness” is the opposite of the truth. IMPO

John · Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:32 pm Post subject:

Quote: Well this is obviously John's first life

Of course it is. The one and only. It is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment.

Enoch · Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 8261

John wrote: Quote: Well this is obviously John's first life

Of course it is. The one and only. It is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment.

I wouldn't doubt this is your first life, but it certainly won't be your last.

John · Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:00 pm Post subject:

UrielsFyre wrote: John wrote: Quote: Well this is obviously John's first life

Of course it is. The one and only. It is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment.

I wouldn't doubt this is your first life, but it certainly won't be your last.

You're right! :-D I'll never experience a "last".

Enoch · Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 8261

John wrote: UrielsFyre wrote: John wrote: Quote: Well this is obviously John's first life

Of course it is. The one and only. It is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment.

I wouldn't doubt this is your first life, but it certainly won't be your last.

You're right! :-D I'll never experience a "last".

That all depends on how many times you reincarnate. But, some day, there will come a time when you stop returning to Earth for new lives. Everyone lives multiple lives on this Earth. This just may be your first, but there are still more to come.

John · Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:15 pm Post subject:

UrielsFyre wrote: John wrote: UrielsFyre wrote: John wrote: Quote: Well this is obviously John's first life

Of course it is. The one and only. It is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment.

I wouldn't doubt this is your first life, but it certainly won't be your last.

You're right! :-D I'll never experience a "last".

That all depends on how many times you reincarnate. But, some day, there will come a time when you stop returning to Earth for new lives. Everyone lives multiple lives on this Earth. This just may be your first, but there are still more to come.

Nope. You get one life...and your eternity is based off of it. Better make it count.

Life isn't like a video game that you can keep playing until you get the high score. :lol:

Enoch · Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 8261

John wrote: UrielsFyre wrote: John wrote: UrielsFyre wrote: John wrote: Quote: Well this is obviously John's first life

Of course it is. The one and only. It is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment.

I wouldn't doubt this is your first life, but it certainly won't be your last.

You're right! :-D I'll never experience a "last".

That all depends on how many times you reincarnate. But, some day, there will come a time when you stop returning to Earth for new lives. Everyone lives multiple lives on this Earth. This just may be your first, but there are still more to come.

Nope. You get one life...and your eternity is based off of it. Better make it count.

Life isn't like a video game that you can keep playing until you get the high score. :lol:

There is no "high score." Life is about learning from one another and teaching others through our actions. The lessons we learn are carried over in to the next life, so that you can learn new lessons.

Eternity is not based on the actions of one single trip down here. Eternity comes once you have learned as much as you can and taught as much as you can.