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the_doctor
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| Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:37 am Post subject: Whaling |
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Whats everyones thoughts on whaling which is still practised by Japan, Norway and Iceland for so called scientific purposes?
Its been in the news in Australia. From what I gather, there hasn't been much in way of scientific evidence to justify this (as far a Japan is concerned, not sure about Norway or Iceland). Also thoughts on Greenpeace's activities and what could be done?
Articles below
http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/story/0,20281,17902427-5001022,00.html
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200407/s1157421.htm |
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John Galt
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Whaling is absolutley fascinating. If I could go on a Nantucket sleigh ride, I would.
I don't care if people whale. |
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connermt
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| Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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John Galt wrote: Whaling is absolutley fascinating. If I could go on a Nantucket sleigh ride, I would.
I don't care if people whale.
Seems to me that there should be a difference in 'whaling' & 'slaughter'. Personally, I don't think whaling is something that should be allowed - period. However, if it is regulated (so that there's no danger to a whale's population), then I suppose it is OK. I believe whales to be among the most wonderous creatures on the planet & it sickens me to think that people are killing them. But it would be hypocritical of me to say NO WHALING then go eat a hamburger, now wouldn't it?
As long as it is regulated & whaling is done on species that are NOT in danger of extinction I think it should be allowed. |
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Canada_Rocks
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| Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Whaling is fine for the aboriginese and tribes that rely on it for food. Regular joes shouldn't whale. |
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John Galt
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| Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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Gogo Yubari wrote: Whaling is fine for the aboriginese and tribes that rely on it for food. Regular joes shouldn't whale.
Why, just cause? |
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Canada_Rocks
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| Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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John Galt wrote: Gogo Yubari wrote: Whaling is fine for the aboriginese and tribes that rely on it for food. Regular joes shouldn't whale.
Why, just cause?
Becasue I feel it is wrong to kill a species that can't reproduce fast enough to keep up with demand. |
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Pebble
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| Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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Gogo Yubari wrote: John Galt wrote: Gogo Yubari wrote: Whaling is fine for the aboriginese and tribes that rely on it for food. Regular joes shouldn't whale.
Why, just cause?
Becasue I feel it is wrong to kill a species that can't reproduce fast enough to keep up with demand.
I wouldn't venture into the realm of what's right or wrong about it, i'd just stick with the loss of biodiversity and it being pretty bloody stupid. |
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Canada_Rocks
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Pebble wrote: Gogo Yubari wrote: John Galt wrote: Gogo Yubari wrote: Whaling is fine for the aboriginese and tribes that rely on it for food. Regular joes shouldn't whale.
Why, just cause?
Becasue I feel it is wrong to kill a species that can't reproduce fast enough to keep up with demand.
I wouldn't venture into the realm of what's right or wrong about it, i'd just stick with the loss of biodiversity and it being pretty bloody stupid.
that too. |
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Canada_Rocks
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Pebble wrote: Gogo Yubari wrote: John Galt wrote: Gogo Yubari wrote: Whaling is fine for the aboriginese and tribes that rely on it for food. Regular joes shouldn't whale.
Why, just cause?
Becasue I feel it is wrong to kill a species that can't reproduce fast enough to keep up with demand.
I wouldn't venture into the realm of what's right or wrong about it, i'd just stick with the loss of biodiversity and it being pretty bloody stupid.
that too. |
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John Galt
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Pebble wrote: Gogo Yubari wrote: John Galt wrote: Gogo Yubari wrote: Whaling is fine for the aboriginese and tribes that rely on it for food. Regular joes shouldn't whale.
Why, just cause?
Becasue I feel it is wrong to kill a species that can't reproduce fast enough to keep up with demand.
I wouldn't venture into the realm of what's right or wrong about it, i'd just stick with the loss of biodiversity and it being pretty bloody stupid.
Why is biodiversity important? Why are whales important? |
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Canada_Rocks
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John Galt wrote: Pebble wrote: Gogo Yubari wrote: John Galt wrote: Gogo Yubari wrote: Whaling is fine for the aboriginese and tribes that rely on it for food. Regular joes shouldn't whale.
Why, just cause?
Becasue I feel it is wrong to kill a species that can't reproduce fast enough to keep up with demand.
I wouldn't venture into the realm of what's right or wrong about it, i'd just stick with the loss of biodiversity and it being pretty bloody stupid.
Why is biodiversity important? Why are whales important?
Biodiversity is important becasue nature is important. Just like art is important. Certain species keep outher species in check. |
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Korimyr the Rat
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John Galt wrote: Why is biodiversity important? Why are whales important?
Conservation of resources. By restricting the killing of whales, we ensure that there are more whales to kill next year-- preserving a renewable resource. I could rattle off a list of products and commodities that whales are useful for, but there are other posters better equipped to do so.
Whaling is a "Tragedy of the Commons" issue. I don't favor this prohibition nonsense, but I do think the practice should be rather strictly regulated-- at least until whale numbers return to self-sustaining levels. |
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Axismaster
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| Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:33 pm Post subject: Whaling |
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Gogo Yubari wrote: Whaling is fine for the aboriginese and tribes that rely on it for food. Regular joes shouldn't whale.
What makes natives better than the rest of us? |
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Canada_Rocks
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| Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:04 pm Post subject: Re: Whaling |
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Axismaster wrote: Gogo Yubari wrote: Whaling is fine for the aboriginese and tribes that rely on it for food. Regular joes shouldn't whale.
What makes natives better than the rest of us?
It is part of their tradition and herritage dating back thousands of years. |
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JackarooSundown
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| Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:33 pm Post subject: Re: Whaling |
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Gogo Yubari wrote: Axismaster wrote: Gogo Yubari wrote: Whaling is fine for the aboriginese and tribes that rely on it for food. Regular joes shouldn't whale.
What makes natives better than the rest of us?
It is part of their tradition and herritage dating back thousands of years.
So? we had those traditions too, we just grew out of them.
Do you support human sacrifice? What if the tribe has THAT tradition? |
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Canada_Rocks
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| Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:40 pm Post subject: Re: Whaling |
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JackarooSundown wrote: Gogo Yubari wrote: Axismaster wrote: Gogo Yubari wrote: Whaling is fine for the aboriginese and tribes that rely on it for food. Regular joes shouldn't whale.
What makes natives better than the rest of us?
It is part of their tradition and herritage dating back thousands of years.
So? we had those traditions too, we just grew out of them.
Do you support human sacrifice? What if the tribe has THAT tradition?
Please. :roll: |
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mathurin
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| Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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the biodiversity issue has a cure, regulation
i hope you have something better than that |
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Canada_Rocks
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| Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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mathurin wrote: the biodiversity issue has a cure, regulation
i hope you have something better than that
Do I need something better then that? Serioulsy? What I am i defending aganst here. People that think whales should be hunted for food just becasue? Ooooh, what a theat. Popele think a lot of crap should happen just becasue. Go release your argumentative angst in P&G. I mean have you eaten whale meat before? Whales are poched. Not hunted. The are poched becasue only a portion of the tissue is used, unless you are aboriginese that rely on whale meat to survive. There are plenty of other animals to eat, animals that are bred to be eaten.
If this is about inalienable rights just say so. |
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anselfir
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:39 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah whaling is cool. I'd like to hunt some whale in the future. |
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mathurin
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:36 am Post subject: |
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Gogo Yubari wrote: mathurin wrote: the biodiversity issue has a cure, regulation
i hope you have something better than that
Do I need something better then that? Serioulsy? What I am i defending aganst here. People that think whales should be hunted for food just becasue? Ooooh, what a theat. Popele think a lot of crap should happen just becasue. Go release your argumentative angst in P&G. I mean have you eaten whale meat before? Whales are poched. Not hunted. The are poched becasue only a portion of the tissue is used, unless you are aboriginese that rely on whale meat to survive. There are plenty of other animals to eat, animals that are bred to be eaten.
If this is about inalienable rights just say so.
this is basic ok, im america you have to come up with a good reason to ban something
i got an idea, lets ban all names that start with the letter T
do you really need to name your kid todd? there are plenty of other names
regardless of need, if someone wants to kill a whale and the population will not be put in jeopardy, you need to have a good reason to say no, i havent seen one yet, the closest thing to one would be intelligence bordering on sentience
btw, do you mean poach? poaching implies hunting illegally, for example if i shoot a deer out of season or without a license it is poaching, it has nothing to do with how much of the animal is used. unless poch is a word i havent heard before |
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