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Robodoon · Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5027 Location: Lakeport

I hear from the pro deathers about that guy who killed an abortion doctor...and just how evil what that man did was. He killed one doctor that killed life in innocents.

The Abortion mills have killed MILLIONS! and MILLIONS!

but we don't hear how that is evil?

Why is killing one person worse then killing MILLIONS?

Kt · Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 3806

Because the death of the doctor is not consentual. And that is wrong, it's called murder and it's illegal in most nations.

Until the baby is out, it is biologically a parasite to the mother, and therefore her right to have it removed at any time prior to birth.

The Grandmaster · Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:39 pm Post subject:

Shim Eun-Ha wrote: Because the death of the doctor is not consentual. And that is wrong, it's called murder and it's illegal in most nations.

Until the baby is out, it is biologically a parasite to the mother, and therefore her right to have it removed at any time prior to birth.

Indeed, it is there via her permission to allow it to stay there, a permission she can revoke at any time.

The Grandmaster

Robodoon wrote: Why is killing one person worse then killing MILLIONS?

Oh..easy. Because an abortion to a point is not the killing of a person, so no one dies. Simple as that.

steen · Joined: 14 Jan 2006 Posts: 1430 Location: Upper Midwest

Robodoon wrote: Why is killing one person worse then killing MILLIONS? Your support for domestic terrorists is duly noted.

halcyon~sky · Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 90

When I first saw the title of this post, I thought it was going to be about how by discouraging stem cell research, we waste millions of lives.

But alas, That was much too optimistic of me.

What I find funny is that the same people who preach against abortion because (A) God doesn't want us to kill innocent people (B) Stem cell research is wrong, God doesn't want us to improve our bodies (C) They don't understand the process and think it involves ripping the baby out by the umbilical cord and bashing it against a rock.

are the same people who have no problem at all with...

(A) Going into countries we have no business in and bombing the hell out of them because the people there look kind of like the people in Afghanistan - OR - Wasting perfectly good labour by placing someone in prison for 30 years and then killing them with 100,000 volts of taxpayer dollars.

(B) Getting a triple bipass surgery to unclog their arteries after they spend their entire lives eating genetically altered food.

(C) Remaining ignorant about the different steps of abortion, not caring enough to get on the internet and find out that most abortions are carried out when the fetus is about the size of a pen tip.

and these are the same people that...

(A) Applaud Bush for his superior morale standing and judgement

(B) Praise Bush for his incredibly directionless actions in Iraq

(C) For some reason aren't banning male masturbation and condoms( If one can argue that a few clumps of stem cells is a human being, then one can certainly argue that a mess of goo which turns into human life IS in fact a human).

and you will never be able to explain to me how...

(A) Conservatives think it is wrong to perform abortions, but not mercy killings (somehow a month old fetus is entitled to a great deal more rights than a comatosed 40 year old)

HMMM....Does anyone else smell BS?

Robodoon · Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5027 Location: Lakeport

Quote: [quote="Shim Eun-Ha"]Because the death of the doctor is not consentual. And that is wrong, it's called murder and it's illegal in most nations.
killing 45 million babies is a lot more murder...and murder of good.
The doctor got to live to show his evil, the unborn are with God and have never gotten to show their evil, because they were murdered in the womb.

Quote: Until the baby is out, it is biologically a parasite to the mother, and therefore her right to have it removed at any time prior to birth.

Then its fine to kill baby eagles, before they are born...cool :!oops:

Conception means the beginning of life....do you know what life is?

Robodoon · Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5027 Location: Lakeport

TheGrandmaster1 wrote: Shim Eun-Ha wrote: Because the death of the doctor is not consentual. And that is wrong, it's called murder and it's illegal in most nations.

Until the baby is out, it is biologically a parasite to the mother, and therefore her right to have it removed at any time prior to birth.

Indeed, it is there via her permission to allow it to stay there, a permission she can revoke at any time.

Maybe not being a horn dog would have been better.

People screw up....and have the right to destory what they created in their fall to passion or lust? NO!

RAPE , INCEST, HEALTH OF THE MOTHER are the only allowable reasons for abortion..in society.

Other then that fat mama got charmed by fat papa, both screwed up an screwed, dare one takes it out on what they created by their merger.

a TOLL IS A COMING, an it won't show mercy...because of their own words.

Robodoon · Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5027 Location: Lakeport

TheGrandmaster1 wrote: Robodoon wrote: Why is killing one person worse then killing MILLIONS?

Oh..easy. Because an abortion to a point is not the killing of a person, so no one dies. Simple as that.

Funny the people bellowing about DDT were saying it was killing baby eagles before they were born.

A Bird before its born has worth, but a HUMAN BEING formed in the image of the Creator of the Universe and all does not :?

I am confused :wink:

Robodoon · Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5027 Location: Lakeport

steen wrote: Robodoon wrote: Why is killing one person worse then killing MILLIONS? Your support for domestic terrorists is duly noted.

Sure it is, according to the FBI, American founding ideas are terrorist ideas.

SEE FBI FLIER
http://www.radioliberty.com/fbipam.htm

hey if believing in God, and our Nation and being against the (COMMUNISTIC, HUMANISTIC, SOCIALISTIC) UN which was designed by the powers who Hate God and our founding ideas are bad...then I must be.

a wonderful badge I must say!

We all die, and we all stand before the Almighty. ;) I'm ready how about you?

Robodoon · Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5027 Location: Lakeport

halcyon~sky wrote: When I first saw the title of this post, I thought it was going to be about how by discouraging stem cell research, we waste millions of lives.

But alas, That was much too optimistic of me.

What I find funny is that the same people who preach against abortion because (A) God doesn't want us to kill innocent people (B) Stem cell research is wrong, God doesn't want us to improve our bodies (C) They don't understand the process and think it involves ripping the baby out by the umbilical cord and bashing it against a rock.

are the same people who have no problem at all with...

(A) Going into countries we have no business in and bombing the hell out of them because the people there look kind of like the people in Afghanistan - OR - Wasting perfectly good labour by placing someone in prison for 30 years and then killing them with 100,000 volts of taxpayer dollars.

(B) Getting a triple bipass surgery to unclog their arteries after they spend their entire lives eating genetically altered food.

(C) Remaining ignorant about the different steps of abortion, not caring enough to get on the internet and find out that most abortions are carried out when the fetus is about the size of a pen tip.

and these are the same people that...

(A) Applaud Bush for his superior morale standing and judgement

(B) Praise Bush for his incredibly directionless actions in Iraq

(C) For some reason aren't banning male masturbation and condoms( If one can argue that a few clumps of stem cells is a human being, then one can certainly argue that a mess of goo which turns into human life IS in fact a human).

and you will never be able to explain to me how...

(A) Conservatives think it is wrong to perform abortions, but not mercy killings (somehow a month old fetus is entitled to a great deal more rights than a comatosed 40 year old)

HMMM....Does anyone else smell BS?

I disagree with going into AFGAN AND IRAQ
I say Bush works for the AAE which are the power Americans founding fathers warned us about
I believe in God and put my foot on those who come against Him.
I believe that Bush is working for the powers who are against GOD, LIFE and works for those who plan to kill of most of mankind. 90% in some accounts.

Hitler was the promoter of mercy killings, how do you think they got started.

Would you like to ask me some questions?

Q

Kt · Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 3806

Robodoon wrote: TheGrandmaster1 wrote: Shim Eun-Ha wrote: Because the death of the doctor is not consentual. And that is wrong, it's called murder and it's illegal in most nations.

Until the baby is out, it is biologically a parasite to the mother, and therefore her right to have it removed at any time prior to birth.

Indeed, it is there via her permission to allow it to stay there, a permission she can revoke at any time.

Maybe not being a horn dog would have been better.

People screw up....and have the right to destory what they created in their fall to passion or lust? NO!

RAPE , INCEST, HEALTH OF THE MOTHER are the only allowable reasons for abortion..in society.

Other then that fat mama got charmed by fat papa, both screwed up an screwed, dare one takes it out on what they created by their merger.

a TOLL IS A COMING, an it won't show mercy...because of their own words.

Wait now, You say it is wrong to abort babies because life starts at conception, using your logic, why is it OK to abort babies of raped mothers? Those unborn babies are god's creation too, right?

Robodoon · Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5027 Location: Lakeport

Shim Eun-Ha wrote: Robodoon wrote: TheGrandmaster1 wrote: Shim Eun-Ha wrote: Because the death of the doctor is not consentual. And that is wrong, it's called murder and it's illegal in most nations.

Until the baby is out, it is biologically a parasite to the mother, and therefore her right to have it removed at any time prior to birth.

Indeed, it is there via her permission to allow it to stay there, a permission she can revoke at any time.

Maybe not being a horn dog would have been better.

People screw up....and have the right to destory what they created in their fall to passion or lust? NO!

RAPE , INCEST, HEALTH OF THE MOTHER are the only allowable reasons for abortion..in society.

Other then that fat mama got charmed by fat papa, both screwed up an screwed, dare one takes it out on what they created by their merger.

a TOLL IS A COMING, an it won't show mercy...because of their own words.

Wait now, You say it is wrong to abort babies because life starts at conception, using your logic, why is it OK to abort babies of raped mothers? Those unborn babies are god's creation too, right?

That is the point we give to mothers to decided. In the point of Question and not lust and desire of the host....we give that mercy.

No one likes killing, but what most "conservatives" want is abortion to not be used as birth control for society or life styles.

Don't do the crime if you can't pay the time. ;)

Horn dogs keep it in you pants and loose women keep your legs closed cuz you have the babies and pay the very most in lust!

Kt · Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 3806

Robodoon wrote: Shim Eun-Ha wrote: Robodoon wrote: TheGrandmaster1 wrote: Shim Eun-Ha wrote: Because the death of the doctor is not consentual. And that is wrong, it's called murder and it's illegal in most nations.

Until the baby is out, it is biologically a parasite to the mother, and therefore her right to have it removed at any time prior to birth.

Indeed, it is there via her permission to allow it to stay there, a permission she can revoke at any time.

Maybe not being a horn dog would have been better.

People screw up....and have the right to destory what they created in their fall to passion or lust? NO!

RAPE , INCEST, HEALTH OF THE MOTHER are the only allowable reasons for abortion..in society.

Other then that fat mama got charmed by fat papa, both screwed up an screwed, dare one takes it out on what they created by their merger.

a TOLL IS A COMING, an it won't show mercy...because of their own words.

Wait now, You say it is wrong to abort babies because life starts at conception, using your logic, why is it OK to abort babies of raped mothers? Those unborn babies are god's creation too, right?

That is the point we give to mothers to decided. In the point of Question and not lust and desire of the host....we give that mercy.

No one likes killing, but what most "conservatives" want is abortion to not be used as birth control for society or life styles.

Don't do the crime if you can't pay the time. ;)

Horn dogs keep it in you pants and loose women keep your legs closed cuz you have the babies and pay the very most in lust!

What you say?

The Grandmaster · Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 8:47 pm Post subject:

Robodoon wrote: TheGrandmaster1 wrote: Shim Eun-Ha wrote: Because the death of the doctor is not consentual. And that is wrong, it's called murder and it's illegal in most nations.

Until the baby is out, it is biologically a parasite to the mother, and therefore her right to have it removed at any time prior to birth.

Indeed, it is there via her permission to allow it to stay there, a permission she can revoke at any time.

Maybe not being a horn dog would have been better.

Hmm... :think: Nah. :snoot:

Robodoon wrote: People screw up....and have the right to destory what they created in their fall to passion or lust? NO!

Why? Does having sex mean one loses the right to body autonomy? Who made up that rule?

Robodoon wrote: RAPE , INCEST, HEALTH OF THE MOTHER are the only allowable reasons for abortion..in society.

Incorrect. Since abortion is currently legal, a woman may have an abortion for any reason she chooses, and rightfully so. So that claim is patently false.

Robodoon wrote: Other then that fat mama got charmed by fat papa, both screwed up an screwed, dare one takes it out on what they created by their merger.

what the f**k?

Robodoon wrote: a TOLL IS A COMING, an it won't show mercy...because of their own words.

If you could speak coherently, that’d be great.

The Grandmaster

Robodoon wrote: TheGrandmaster1 wrote: Robodoon wrote: Why is killing one person worse then killing MILLIONS?

Oh..easy. Because an abortion to a point is not the killing of a person, so no one dies. Simple as that.

Funny the people bellowing about DDT were saying it was killing baby eagles before they were born.

A Bird before its born has worth, but a HUMAN BEING formed in the image of the Creator of the Universe and all does not :?

I am confused :wink:

Perhaps I can clear it up for you, allow me to help. I think you are trying to appeal to fairy tales, and magical cartoons in the sky here. If you want to have a serious discussion, can you not try to saying things like humans are formed in the image of some invisible fairly tale in the sky?

steen · Joined: 14 Jan 2006 Posts: 1430 Location: Upper Midwest

Robodoon wrote: steen wrote: Robodoon wrote: Why is killing one person worse then killing MILLIONS? Your support for domestic terrorists is duly noted.
ure it is, according to the FBI, American founding ideas are terrorist ideas. And the activity of those who murder physicians today very much is domestic terrorism. Your reveling in their activities, showing what a hate mongering, murderous, misogynistic pro-lifer you really are is duly noted. You no doubt make pro-life proud of having such a hate monger amongst them. I have noted how they certainly have not denounced you yet. Very telling, their support for Army-of-god types like you.

Quote: hey if believing in God, Nothing wrong with that.

Quote: and our Nation Nothing wrong with that.

Quote: and being against the (COMMUNISTIC, HUMANISTIC, SOCIALISTIC) UN Hmm, so now you have to resort to lies to make your argument. Ah, well. For a pro-life fundie who endorses the murder of physicians, a bit of racist bigotry is no surprise.

Quote: which was designed by the powers who Hate God and our founding ideas It wasn't, so you are back to bearing false witness again. You must read some unique Bible where the instruction to not bear false witness was edited out. Why else would you lie SO MUCH and spit God in the eye like that?

Quote: a wonderful badge I must say! I am not surprised that you find pride in your hate mongering and intolerant views and desire to enslave women. That is to be expected by pro-lifers, of which you must be typical, right?

Quote: We all die, and we all stand before the Almighty. ;) I'm ready how about you? I am plenty ready, following the words and teachings of Jesus rather than your inferior god, Satan.

The Grandmaster · Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 8:54 pm Post subject:

Robodoon wrote: Shim Eun-Ha wrote: Robodoon wrote: TheGrandmaster1 wrote: Shim Eun-Ha wrote: Because the death of the doctor is not consentual. And that is wrong, it's called murder and it's illegal in most nations.

Until the baby is out, it is biologically a parasite to the mother, and therefore her right to have it removed at any time prior to birth.

Indeed, it is there via her permission to allow it to stay there, a permission she can revoke at any time.

Maybe not being a horn dog would have been better.

People screw up....and have the right to destory what they created in their fall to passion or lust? NO!

RAPE , INCEST, HEALTH OF THE MOTHER are the only allowable reasons for abortion..in society.

Other then that fat mama got charmed by fat papa, both screwed up an screwed, dare one takes it out on what they created by their merger.

a TOLL IS A COMING, an it won't show mercy...because of their own words.

Wait now, You say it is wrong to abort babies because life starts at conception, using your logic, why is it OK to abort babies of raped mothers? Those unborn babies are god's creation too, right?

That is the point we give to mothers to decided. In the point of Question and not lust and desire of the host....we give that mercy.

No one likes killing, but what most "conservatives" want is abortion to not be used as birth control for society or life styles.

Don't do the crime if you can't pay the time. ;)

Horn dogs keep it in you pants and loose women keep your legs closed cuz you have the babies and pay the very most in lust!

OOoohhhhh.......

Okay. I haven't seen you in here before, and I am starting to understand where you come from. Okay. You are one of those religious zealots, one of those bible thumpers that come in here and try to spout nonsense about some invisible man in the sky saying we should behave a certain way. Let me help you our once again. Lust has nothing to do with it. A woman can have sex 30 times a day, that’s fine and dandy. Sex does not entail the loss of body autonomy. Thus, the issue isn’t whether she had sex. It is that she has the right to determine what is in her body or not, period.

Oh by the way, I say we should have as much carnal pre-marital sex and debauchery as possible. How about that? :wink:

halcyon~sky · Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 90

Quote: Oh by the way, I say we should have as much carnal pre-marital sex and debauchery as possible. How about that? Wink

ROFL...thats an easy way to piss off a conservative lol!

Seriously though Robo...don't you ever think that maybe nobody will trust your beliefs and judgement just because you SAY you believe in God? Don't try to impose your beliefs on anyone else man...I'm pretty sure that the Bible teaches that you aren't supposed to take up with the ways of the heathens but you're not supposed to force them into Christianity either? Jesus and the disciples preached in public, but did they ever start chasing poeple down trying to change laws so that what they thought was right would be the only thing that was allowed? No. They said to pray for your government that they would bring you peace. It seems as if most followers of "God" would have anyone who doesn't believe in the same way they do killed or imprisoned...Inquisition anyone?

Kt · Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 3806

Quote: Oh by the way, I say we should have as much carnal pre-marital sex and debauchery as possible. How about that?

I second that motion!

I also propose that we rename

Political Crossfire Forums Index -> "Abortion"

Into

Political Crossfire Forums Index -> "Robodoon's Forum"