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Demonic Spoon wrote: All gays are ***holes.
You're not serious, are you?

[Enoch]

First...sorry for my long absense. There has been a lot going on in my life recently. Hopefully, I will be back on with more frequency now...or, within the next few days.

Second, on to the topic. What I find amazing is that people actually waste time forming opinions on an entire group of people. Anyone who thinks they can possibly be accurate in opinions of an entire group is rather narrow-minded.

Opinions of that nature are based on stereotypes and should be seriously re-judged. Very few people fall in to the stereotypes of the group to which they belong.

[Eichen]

UrielsFyre wrote: First...sorry for my long absense. There has been a lot going on in my life recently. Hopefully, I will be back on with more frequency now...or, within the next few days.

Second, on to the topic. What I find amazing is that people actually waste time forming opinions on an entire group of people. Anyone who thinks they can possibly be accurate in opinions of an entire group is rather narrow-minded.

Opinions of that nature are based on stereotypes and should be seriously re-judged. Very few people fall in to the stereotypes of the group to which they belong.
How dare you be reasonable! We're discussing politics. ;)

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UrielsFyre wrote: First...sorry for my long absense. There has been a lot going on in my life recently. Hopefully, I will be back on with more frequency now...or, within the next few days.

Second, on to the topic. What I find amazing is that people actually waste time forming opinions on an entire group of people. Anyone who thinks they can possibly be accurate in opinions of an entire group is rather narrow-minded.

Opinions of that nature are based on stereotypes and should be seriously re-judged. Very few people fall in to the stereotypes of the group to which they belong.
Glad to have you back. I'm really hoping for some of my other favorites to return.

[Demonic Spoon]

No, I'm not serious

[Eichen]

Demonic Spoon wrote: No, I'm not serious
Well, thank you for advancing the @sshole agenda!

It just doesn't get enough exposure.

[John Galt]

UrielsFyre wrote: First...sorry for my long absense. There has been a lot going on in my life recently. Hopefully, I will be back on with more frequency now...or, within the next few days.

Second, on to the topic. What I find amazing is that people actually waste time forming opinions on an entire group of people. Anyone who thinks they can possibly be accurate in opinions of an entire group is rather narrow-minded.

Opinions of that nature are based on stereotypes and should be seriously re-judged. Very few people fall in to the stereotypes of the group to which they belong.

Well why I don't say "I think X of an entire group of people" I wouldn't say that stereotypes are merely of a minoirty of X. Stereotypes happen for a reason.

[Eichen]

John Galt wrote: UrielsFyre wrote: First...sorry for my long absense. There has been a lot going on in my life recently. Hopefully, I will be back on with more frequency now...or, within the next few days.

Second, on to the topic. What I find amazing is that people actually waste time forming opinions on an entire group of people. Anyone who thinks they can possibly be accurate in opinions of an entire group is rather narrow-minded.

Opinions of that nature are based on stereotypes and should be seriously re-judged. Very few people fall in to the stereotypes of the group to which they belong.

Well why I don't say "I think X of an entire group of people" I wouldn't say that stereotypes are merely of a minoirty of X. Stereotypes happen for a reason.
I agree, John. I hate to stereotype, but most of my straight friends are beer guzzling worker-bees that make less income because they're less talented, and overall, less intelligent than the homos I know. They have serious problems with fidelity, and even moreso keeping up with current events and cultural trends. Almost all of them are far, far behind the queers I know when it comes to literary savvy.

I acknowledge this stereotype to a degree. There are a few exceptions, but generally, I'm with you.

Either way, they're my friends, and I love them nonetheless.

[ToonArmyIsComing]

John Galt wrote: UrielsFyre wrote: First...sorry for my long absense. There has been a lot going on in my life recently. Hopefully, I will be back on with more frequency now...or, within the next few days.

Second, on to the topic. What I find amazing is that people actually waste time forming opinions on an entire group of people. Anyone who thinks they can possibly be accurate in opinions of an entire group is rather narrow-minded.

Opinions of that nature are based on stereotypes and should be seriously re-judged. Very few people fall in to the stereotypes of the group to which they belong.

Well why I don't say "I think X of an entire group of people" I wouldn't say that stereotypes are merely of a minoirty of X. Stereotypes happen for a reason.

Stereotypes occur because of variety of reasons:

1- Stereotypes are a simple way for people to simplify the complex social structures of life and society by categorizing and generalizing certain behaviours and other aspects of society.

2- Streotypes create what is essentially the social reality and structure people's interaction with each other.

3- Stereotypes are a way to create the "Other" meaning that people attribute less desirable behaviours to a certain group of people to feel good about themselves and project a sense of moral superiority.

4- Stereotypes also occur because a significant minority of a group of people share certain characteristics and act in a certain way.

And there are probably other reasons as well, but I think these are probably the major ones.

[Enoch]

Liberty4All wrote: UrielsFyre wrote: First...sorry for my long absense. There has been a lot going on in my life recently. Hopefully, I will be back on with more frequency now...or, within the next few days.

Second, on to the topic. What I find amazing is that people actually waste time forming opinions on an entire group of people. Anyone who thinks they can possibly be accurate in opinions of an entire group is rather narrow-minded.

Opinions of that nature are based on stereotypes and should be seriously re-judged. Very few people fall in to the stereotypes of the group to which they belong.
Glad to have you back. I'm really hoping for some of my other favorites to return.

Thank you. It is good to be back. There has been a lot of really bad things happening to me as of late that have kept me rather busy. Hopefully the worst of it is over and my life can return to some semblance of normality.

[John Galt]

Eichen wrote: John Galt wrote: UrielsFyre wrote: First...sorry for my long absense. There has been a lot going on in my life recently. Hopefully, I will be back on with more frequency now...or, within the next few days.

Second, on to the topic. What I find amazing is that people actually waste time forming opinions on an entire group of people. Anyone who thinks they can possibly be accurate in opinions of an entire group is rather narrow-minded.

Opinions of that nature are based on stereotypes and should be seriously re-judged. Very few people fall in to the stereotypes of the group to which they belong.

Well why I don't say "I think X of an entire group of people" I wouldn't say that stereotypes are merely of a minoirty of X. Stereotypes happen for a reason.
I agree, John. I hate to stereotype, but most of my straight friends are beer guzzling worker-bees that make less income because they're less talented, and overall, less intelligent than the homos I know. They have serious problems with fidelity, and even moreso keeping up with current events and cultural trends. Almost all of them are far, far behind the queers I know when it comes to literary savvy.

I acknowledge this stereotype to a degree. There are a few exceptions, but generally, I'm with you.

Either way, they're my friends, and I love them nonetheless.

I drink alot of beer and I can afford it because I make more than enough income to enjoy designer brews while reading my books and newspapers. Fidelity? :lol:

[John Galt]

ToonArmyIsComing wrote: John Galt wrote: UrielsFyre wrote: First...sorry for my long absense. There has been a lot going on in my life recently. Hopefully, I will be back on with more frequency now...or, within the next few days.

Second, on to the topic. What I find amazing is that people actually waste time forming opinions on an entire group of people. Anyone who thinks they can possibly be accurate in opinions of an entire group is rather narrow-minded.

Opinions of that nature are based on stereotypes and should be seriously re-judged. Very few people fall in to the stereotypes of the group to which they belong.

Well why I don't say "I think X of an entire group of people" I wouldn't say that stereotypes are merely of a minoirty of X. Stereotypes happen for a reason.

Stereotypes occur because of variety of reasons:

1- Stereotypes are a simple way for people to simplify the complex social structures of life and society by categorizing and generalizing certain behaviours and other aspects of society.

2- Streotypes create what is essentially the social reality and structure people's interaction with each other.

3- Stereotypes are a way to create the "Other" meaning that people attribute less desirable behaviours to a certain group of people to feel good about themselves and project a sense of moral superiority.

4- Stereotypes also occur because a significant minority of a group of people share certain characteristics and act in a certain way.

And there are probably other reasons as well, but I think these are probably the major ones.

I would say, stereotypically, stereotypes do not describe a minorty of a group but the majorirty. But, just as with stereotypes in general, this is not the rule as some are formed out of malice (your number 3) ("Republicans are stupid") and not from observing typical behavior or characteristics of the group.

[F'losrix]

John Galt wrote: But, just as with stereotypes in general, this is not the rule as some are formed out of malice (your number 3) ("Republicans are stupid") and not from observing typical behavior or characteristics of the group.
Right, like no one has done exactly that sort of thing to gay people. :roll:

[Enoch]

Skeptical Mystic wrote: John Galt wrote: But, just as with stereotypes in general, this is not the rule as some are formed out of malice (your number 3) ("Republicans are stupid") and not from observing typical behavior or characteristics of the group.
Right, like no one has done exactly that sort of thing to gay people. :roll:

I don't think that he was claiming that gay people aren't stereotyped.

[F'losrix]

UrielsFyre wrote: Skeptical Mystic wrote: John Galt wrote: But, just as with stereotypes in general, this is not the rule as some are formed out of malice (your number 3) ("Republicans are stupid") and not from observing typical behavior or characteristics of the group.
Right, like no one has done exactly that sort of thing to gay people. :roll:

I don't think that he was claiming that gay people aren't stereotyped.
Given the conversations I've had with him in the past, my impression is that John Galt believes the stereotypes about gay men are a legitimate representation of how most gay people act, think, live, etc. It's up to him to convince me otherwise, not you.

[Eichen]

John Galt wrote: Eichen wrote: John Galt wrote: UrielsFyre wrote: First...sorry for my long absense. There has been a lot going on in my life recently. Hopefully, I will be back on with more frequency now...or, within the next few days.

Second, on to the topic. What I find amazing is that people actually waste time forming opinions on an entire group of people. Anyone who thinks they can possibly be accurate in opinions of an entire group is rather narrow-minded.

Opinions of that nature are based on stereotypes and should be seriously re-judged. Very few people fall in to the stereotypes of the group to which they belong.

Well why I don't say "I think X of an entire group of people" I wouldn't say that stereotypes are merely of a minoirty of X. Stereotypes happen for a reason.
I agree, John. I hate to stereotype, but most of my straight friends are beer guzzling worker-bees that make less income because they're less talented, and overall, less intelligent than the homos I know. They have serious problems with fidelity, and even moreso keeping up with current events and cultural trends. Almost all of them are far, far behind the queers I know when it comes to literary savvy.

I acknowledge this stereotype to a degree. There are a few exceptions, but generally, I'm with you.

Either way, they're my friends, and I love them nonetheless.

I drink alot of beer and I can afford it because I make more than enough income to enjoy designer brews while reading my books and newspapers. Fidelity? :lol:
"designer brews"? Sounds kinda g@y, John. ;)

[00timh]

Skeptical Mystic wrote: UrielsFyre wrote: Skeptical Mystic wrote: John Galt wrote: But, just as with stereotypes in general, this is not the rule as some are formed out of malice (your number 3) ("Republicans are stupid") and not from observing typical behavior or characteristics of the group.
Right, like no one has done exactly that sort of thing to gay people. :roll:

I don't think that he was claiming that gay people aren't stereotyped.
Given the conversations I've had with him in the past, my impression is that John Galt believes the stereotypes about gay men are a legitimate representation of how most gay people act, think, live, etc. It's up to him to convince me otherwise, not you. This is not so much singling out what John may or may not feel but as for the stereotypes, the biggest problem going on today is the sensationalism that is being pushed through the media. People such as yourself Skep feel that the stereotypes are contributing to the problems of gay people and I completly agree with you. Unfortunately though for so many that is all that they see. How many movies, tv shows and demonstrations do we see which exaggerate these sterotypes?

Gay people complain about being stereotyped but then offer up the greatest fears in the face of society on a daily basis. They may be a minority as you and other claim but it appears as a majority.

If it were not for having worked with a few gay people who were not of the grandest of stereotypes I would undoubtably be feeling that those stereotypes are the norm, because that was all that I would have seen.

[Enoch]

Stereotypes exist for a reason. While they rarely apply to more than a smalls segmant of a population, there are people within each population who fit the stereotype, and thus propetuate its existance.

[lululauren]

I have a lesbian aunt, a gay uncle - my boyfriend has a gay uncle and I have had the privilege of meeting and befriending several gay people. If anything they are probably the nicest people you'll ever meet. I have no problem what-so-ever with them. They're people, just like you and me.

d00d wrote: Gays don't bother me. In fact I have a few gay friends and if you met them you wouldn't think that they are gay. One of them is actually one tough mofo and he can kick anybody's ass. They are not girly or anything like what the media portrays gay people to be. They are just regular guys that like beer, sports and all that stuff but it just so happens that they are gay.

I used to work as a bouncer and a bartender at a bar and there were a few functions that were hosted by homosexual people and all I can say is that I made a s**t load of money in tips when I was bartending that night.

So, gays don't bother me.

That was cute. Haha... I liked that. :lol:

thegriffinator13 wrote: where is the sodomites damned to hell option?

Seeing as though you're probably not joking about this... :roll:

Korimyr the Rat wrote: Really... gay, straight, male, female, it doesn't matter. Bad blowjobs are a crime against humanity.

The same can be said for men who always seem to think they know what they're doing on a woman... ;)

[Shady]

Some gays are ****. Some are great people. I don't like or dislike a person because their gay. If their an **** and gay then I'll dislike them because their an ****. End of story.