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politicalpup

so that leaves: government interference, and whether it's a lifestyle choice or inherent.

feel free to say anything that's constructively argumentative. comments like "the government s*cks", or "gays are gross" prevent the development of a productive discourse.

thanks.

(i'm keeping this short because i'm on vacation and can't be on here long; but believe me, i intend on responding.) :wink:

lordcelerborn · Joined: 01 Jul 2005 Posts: 255 Location: San Diego

Homosexualism? As for government invovlement, shouldn't be happening. Let the church decide about marriage. As for inherent versus choice, I don't think it matters. Accept people for who they are....

Also, this should probably be in society.

politicalpup · Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:09 am Post subject:

is that grammatically incorrect?

d357r0y3r · Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 539

I just don't see why the government would condone something so inherently unnatural. Why would evolution allow for a being who was only attracted to the same sex? They can't reproduce naturally. I suppose some would argue that if you're a man, and you love another man, then love is love. But why is it that you only love other men? That doesn't make sense. Do you love them only for the sexual organ they have? What if a woman acted and looked a whole lot like a man, minus the sexual organ? Then could you love them?

I don't claim to understand the human brain. These are just issues in my own mind that question that validity of homosexuality.

DavidXV · Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 9828

politicalpup wrote: is that grammatically incorrect? Quick, call the grammar police!

PrinceJunius · Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:25 am Post subject:

I really don't care what the government decides to do. I'm going to have same-sex relations with or without the government's permission, so it doesn't really matter anyway. And in the future, if I have a stable male partner, I will refer to him as my "husband", regardless of whether the government recognizes him as such or not.

As for whether it's a choice or not, I can tell you from experience that it's not. If you don't believe me, that's your privilege.

Israel · Joined: 13 Jan 2005 Posts: 2188

DavidXV wrote: politicalpup wrote: is that grammatically incorrect? Quick, call the grammar police!
I'm here, what's the problem?

cap'n queasy · Joined: 15 May 2004 Posts: 34968

From a strictly non-religous standpoint there are many health risks associated with this behavior.

And I don't just mean AIDS. Sodomy will mess up your plumbing pretty good.

DavidXV · Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 9828

Israel wrote: DavidXV wrote: politicalpup wrote: is that grammatically incorrect? Quick, call the grammar police!
I'm here, what's the problem? :!oops: My mistake, I misread, he was asking about his own post, and and I thought he was saying the post under his was incorrect. Grade him!

d357r0y3r · Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 539

cap'n queasy wrote: From a strictly non-religous standpoint there are many health risks associated with this behavior.

And I don't just mean AIDS. Sodomy will mess up your plumbing pretty good.

Heh, Sodomy even with a woman doesn't really attract me. Just seems like it would get awkward.

Nico · Joined: 03 Nov 2004 Posts: 10827 Location: Auckland

Moved

politicalpup · Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:44 am Post subject:

for the record, i'm a she. and sodomy is a sexual perversion that i find less frightening than being homosexual; but please, stay on topic.

cap'n queasy · Joined: 15 May 2004 Posts: 34968

Lifestyle choice. IMHO.

lordcelerborn · Joined: 01 Jul 2005 Posts: 255 Location: San Diego

d357r0y3r wrote: I just don't see why the government would condone something so inherently unnatural. Why would evolution allow for a being who was only attracted to the same sex? They can't reproduce naturally. I suppose some would argue that if you're a man, and you love another man, then love is love. But why is it that you only love other men? That doesn't make sense. Do you love them only for the sexual organ they have? What if a woman acted and looked a whole lot like a man, minus the sexual organ? Then could you love them?

I don't claim to understand the human brain. These are just issues in my own mind that question that validity of homosexuality.
:gdgf: Not preventing doesn't translate into condoning. The government has no bussiness deciding who you can and can't sleep with... unless your President ;-). As for why your attracted to someone of the same sex? Why are you attracted to anyone period? :roll:

Maybe you like their sense of humor, or their personality. Doesn't matter, in the end, a real "relationship" is almost never sexually based. In fact, I have a friend (male) who is in love with another man, but absolutely repulsed by the idea of his "organ" :lol: .

politicalpup · Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:57 am Post subject:

you must be one of those deranger liberals. LMAO did you not read my original post? no comments like those allowed.

Jay2014 · Joined: 31 May 2005 Posts: 1243

d357r0y3r wrote: I just don't see why the government would condone something so inherently unnatural. Why would evolution allow for a being who was only attracted to the same sex? They can't reproduce naturally. I suppose some would argue that if you're a man, and you love another man, then love is love. But why is it that you only love other men? That doesn't make sense. Do you love them only for the sexual organ they have? What if a woman acted and looked a whole lot like a man, minus the sexual organ? Then could you love them?

I don't claim to understand the human brain. These are just issues in my own mind that question that validity of homosexuality.

i dont want it condoned, i just want government completely out of marrige. let individual churches decide who they will marry. the government doesnt condone smoking (in fact, they actively discourage it) but they dont ban it. letting people make their own choices is not an endorsment of those choices.

F'losrix · Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:16 am Post subject:

cap'n queasy wrote: From a strictly non-religous standpoint there are many health risks associated with this behavior.

And I don't just mean AIDS. Sodomy will mess up your plumbing pretty good.
And what about homosexuals that don't practice sodomy?

F'losrix · Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:20 am Post subject:

cap'n queasy wrote: Lifestyle choice. IMHO.
Is heterosexuality also a 'lifestyle choice' then?

I absolutely hate this business of classifying homosexuality as a 'lifestyle' because that word is defined thus:

a way of life or style of living that reflects the attitudes and values of a person or group

Homosexuals do not all share common attitudes and values - no more than heterosexuals do.

F'losrix · Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:22 am Post subject:

politicalpup wrote: you must be one of those deranger liberals. LMAO did you not read my original post? no comments like those allowed.

And just how does calling someone a 'deranged liberal' contribute to what is supposed to be a 'constructively argumentative' discussion?

If you want a civil discussion, try practicing some civility yourself!

IronBrigadeMike (IBM) · Joined: 08 May 2005 Posts: 6615 Location: VA

lordcelerborn wrote: d357r0y3r wrote: I just don't see why the government would condone something so inherently unnatural. Why would evolution allow for a being who was only attracted to the same sex? They can't reproduce naturally. I suppose some would argue that if you're a man, and you love another man, then love is love. But why is it that you only love other men? That doesn't make sense. Do you love them only for the sexual organ they have? What if a woman acted and looked a whole lot like a man, minus the sexual organ? Then could you love them?

I don't claim to understand the human brain. These are just issues in my own mind that question that validity of homosexuality.
:gdgf: Not preventing doesn't translate into condoning. The government has no bussiness deciding who you can and can't sleep with... unless your President ;-). As for why your attracted to someone of the same sex? Why are you attracted to anyone period? :roll:

Maybe you like their sense of humor, or their personality. Doesn't matter, in the end, a real "relationship" is almost never sexually based. In fact, I have a friend (male) who is in love with another man, but absolutely repulsed by the idea of his "organ" :lol: .

To reproduce and support mankind, the way God and nature intended it to be.