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Impeach Blair on Iraq, says general

· PM misled public, says UN Bosnia commander
· Invasion 'a blunder of enormous significance'

"Richard Norton-Taylor
Tuesday January 10, 2006
The Guardian

A former general has called for impeachment proceedings against Tony Blair, accusing the prime minister of misleading parliament and the public over the invasion of Iraq.

General Sir Michael Rose, commander of UN forces in Bosnia in 1994, writes in today's Guardian: "The impeachment of Mr Blair is now something I believe must happen if we are to rekindle interest in the democratic process in this country once again". Britain was led into war on false pretences, he says. "It was a war that was to unleash untold suffering on the Iraqi people and cause grave damage to the west's prospects in the wider war against global terror."..."

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/labour/story/0,9061,1682983,00.html

"Enough of his excuses: Blair must be impeached over Iraq

The only way parliament can regain the trust of disaffected voters is to admit that it was wrong to support the war

Michael Rose
Tuesday January 10, 2006
The Guardian

Wars are won when the people, government and army work together for a common cause in which they genuinely believe. Whereas the people may be initially uncertain about military intervention, politicians will often be the strongest advocates - blinded by the imperatives of their political views. It will invariably be military commanders who are most cautious about using force - for they understand better than most the consequences of engaging in war.

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Although in a true democracy they must remain subordinate to their political masters, they have a clear responsibility to point out when political strategies are flawed or inadequately resourced. Since they might also have to ask their soldiers to sacrifice their lives, they must be assured that a war is just, legal and the last resort available. Yet three years ago this country was somehow led by the prime minister into war in Iraq where few, if any, of these requirements were met."

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/labour/story/0,9061,1682809,00.html


WOOOOOOT

At last, a genuine and high profile call to impeach the treacherous *****bIIIIIP****

:bana: :bana: :bana: :bana: :bana: :bana: :bana:

[Saracen]

:shock: :lol:

Good post.

There are reasons for Bush to be impeached.

It's no wonder that his pet Blair needs the same crowning as well. :twisted:

[Lord Hargreaves]

not gonna happen folks :lol:

[Pebble]

Lord Hargreaves wrote: not gonna happen folks :lol:


Indeed.

The best we could hope for would be a thacherite removal by his own party. That won't happen thought because the old gaurd soccialists don't have the presence in the party anymore...

[Windy]

Lord Hargreaves wrote: not gonna happen folks :lol:
Not least because its not possible for him to be!

[Robin Hood]

Quote: The best we could hope for would be a thacherite removal by his own party. That won't happen thought because the old gaurd soccialists don't have the presence in the party anymore...

Actually it won't happen because Blair is more popular then the alternative. Brown fairs significantly worse in the polls, and if he decapittates Blair he would sink in popularity and the next election would be a conservative landslide.

[Pebble]

Reason wrote: Quote: The best we could hope for would be a thacherite removal by his own party. That won't happen thought because the old gaurd soccialists don't have the presence in the party anymore...

Actually it won't happen because Blair is more popular then the alternative. Brown fairs significantly worse in the polls, and if he decapittates Blair he would sink in popularity and the next election would be a conservative landslide.

Kind of the same thing. Brown would have little to no support from the Blairites for obvious reasons. The socialist back benchers would support him because they hope he'd lead the party back left...whether he'd actually do so I don't know. They however can't support him because they are being steadily supplanted with Blairites.

[Robin Hood]

Quote: The socialist back benchers would support him because they hope he'd lead the party back left...whether he'd actually do so I don't know. They however can't support him because they are being steadily supplanted with Blairites.

MPs can only be 'supplanted' at elections....and the reason why the socialist 'old-guard' won't rebel is because they'd be supplanted by the conservatives in the next elections .