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bowerstan · Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 166 Location: Ontario

I've been thinking about it a lot lately. Who here thinks it's real? Is it a mere biology, simple human instinct. Or is it something that separates us from animals. I mean, humans are complex enough to have emotions such as anger, sadness and happiness. So why not love? I just want to read some opinions on the matter.

Here's what I think, this may just me being a dreamer.

First of all, in our teen years we change, we slowly form into what in most cases is a concrete version of ourselves that is static. Some small things change, but for the most part we have found ourselves. Now what I've assumed is that most people when looking for love, look for understanding and similarities, things in common...That's usually the basis. Now there are also other things that will influence feelings that most people believe shouldn't, things like physical attraction, general hygenic habits etc. I don't really know what I'm getting at.

These are just a few ideas I've observed. I'd like to hear some other points of few.

bowerstan · Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 166 Location: Ontario

I consider myself a dreamer. I like to believe that love is one of the main means of achieving happiness in this life. It is for most, just talk to a truly happy married couple and you can see it.

Feelings aren't something that are controlled. If you're angry, you can attempt to supress it, but the reality is you are STILL angry just not showing it. Emotions just happen and there's nothing you can do other then trying to limit the amount of things that influence that emotion.

With that said, I can undoubtedly say that I am in love. There's no thinking or "if's" involved. There's no question. But what I'm trying to assess here what love is.

I have the feeling that is defined as love. But what is it to you?

George W Bush · Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 10:42 pm Post subject:

I dont know.

Zoot · Joined: 30 Oct 2005 Posts: 2170

BABY, DON'T HURT ME...

DON'T HURT ME...

NO MORE.

jeechoscopy · Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:30 pm Post subject:

Love is a blocked behavior...

1- you praise him/her/that.
2- you ignore mistakes from...
3- you couldn't find a fault in...

and

4- you simply, only praise him/her/that.

mardron7 · Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 49 Location: Western New York

Didn't anyone see Wedding Crashers?!

"True love is your soul's recognition of its counterpoint in another."

No one can fully explain love. Not even eHarmony.

That's why mankind invented poetry. (Well, that and to tell tales of great deeds and heroic battles.)

:shock:

Secondary Oak · Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 3418 Location: Haifa

bowerstan wrote: I've been thinking about it a lot lately. Who here thinks it's real? Is it a mere biology, simple human instinct.
Of course it's mere biology, but that doesn't mean it's not real. It's something very positive and nice, no doubt, and I long for it. Just because I know a bit about the science behind it doesn't mean I think less of it.

Plato & Socrates · Joined: 24 Dec 2005 Posts: 1750 Location: London

What is love? Well simply put, it is chemical and electrical processes and reactions inside your head. Coupled with bouts of insanity & lunacy. And what condition is that you may ask? Well one of the very earliest cases of Lunacy. A man in 17th century England found out the wife he was married to was adulteress in nature. In a jealous and emotional rage he killed he beloved, wife. With no real defense to call upon he cited the lunar full moon, has having adversely affected his behavior. Hence the word lunacy in our language. Of when one is suffering from lunacy that in turn they are described as a lunatic. So forget werewolves and silver bullets. Love is a much more vicious creature.

Borommakot · Joined: 14 Feb 2005 Posts: 564 Location: The Twilight Zone

Love is the only way our race wll survive. People grow up, fall in love, have babies, and the the process repeats its self. It's also probably the number one achivement in our society, falling love that is. So it doesn't really matter what it is chemicaly its just good that it's there.

Johannes · Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 834

Borommakot wrote: Love is the only way our race wll survive. People grow up, fall in love, have babies, and the the process repeats its self. It's also probably the number one achivement in our society, falling love that is. So it doesn't really matter what it is chemicaly its just good that it's there.

Illogical. Presuming sex and love go hand in hand is wrong.
http://msn.match.com/msn/article.aspx?articleid=3705&menuid=6&lid=0
http://thelink.concordia.ca/article.pl?sid=05/02/09/1820224
And type in www. triple "x" anything and you will see the other side of those links.

Borommakot wrote: It's also probably the number one achivement in our society, falling love that is. So it doesn't really matter what it is chemicaly its just good that it's there.

Number one achievement? What about fame, fortune, success?

Borommakot · Joined: 14 Feb 2005 Posts: 564 Location: The Twilight Zone

Johannes wrote: Borommakot wrote: Love is the only way our race wll survive. People grow up, fall in love, have babies, and the the process repeats its self. It's also probably the number one achivement in our society, falling love that is. So it doesn't really matter what it is chemicaly its just good that it's there.

Illogical. Presuming sex and love go hand in hand is wrong.
http://msn.match.com/msn/article.aspx?articleid=3705&menuid=6&lid=0
http://thelink.concordia.ca/article.pl?sid=05/02/09/1820224
And type in www. triple "x" anything and you will see the other side of those links.

Borommakot wrote: It's also probably the number one achivement in our society, falling love that is. So it doesn't really matter what it is chemicaly its just good that it's there.

Number one achievement? What about fame, fortune, success?

Most people who advance the human race were born to parents who probably loved each other and created a stable environment. People who have random sex just create problems in their lives and their children's. Besides people who are rich and famous but have no one to love usually end up miserable.

Johannes · Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 834

Borommakot wrote: Johannes wrote: Borommakot wrote: Love is the only way our race wll survive. People grow up, fall in love, have babies, and the the process repeats its self. It's also probably the number one achivement in our society, falling love that is. So it doesn't really matter what it is chemicaly its just good that it's there.

Illogical. Presuming sex and love go hand in hand is wrong.
http://msn.match.com/msn/article.aspx?articleid=3705&menuid=6&lid=0
http://thelink.concordia.ca/article.pl?sid=05/02/09/1820224
And type in www. triple "x" anything and you will see the other side of those links.

Borommakot wrote: It's also probably the number one achivement in our society, falling love that is. So it doesn't really matter what it is chemicaly its just good that it's there.

Number one achievement? What about fame, fortune, success?

Most people who advance the human race were born to parents who probably loved each other and created a stable environment. People who have random sex just create problems in their lives and their children's. Besides people who are rich and famous but have no one to love usually end up miserable.

Can you prove that most people were born from people who love eachother?
Can you prove that the rich and famous usually no one and are miserable?

tk750 · Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:50 pm Post subject:

bowerstan wrote: I consider myself a dreamer. I like to believe that love is one of the main means of achieving happiness in this life. It is for most, just talk to a truly happy married couple and you can see it.

Feelings aren't something that are controlled. If you're angry, you can attempt to supress it, but the reality is you are STILL angry just not showing it. Emotions just happen and there's nothing you can do other then trying to limit the amount of things that influence that emotion.

With that said, I can undoubtedly say that I am in love. There's no thinking or "if's" involved. There's no question. But what I'm trying to assess here what love is.

I have the feeling that is defined as love. But what is it to you?

Answer me a few psychological questions and I may be able to help you.

First off:

1) Do you prefer schedules?
2) Do you talk to many people at parties
3) Would you rather read a book or go to a party.
4) Do you or would you like to take solitary walks?

Ellron · Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 2273 Location: NY upstate

Secondary Oak wrote: bowerstan wrote: I've been thinking about it a lot lately. Who here thinks it's real? Is it a mere biology, simple human instinct.
Of course it's mere biology, but that doesn't mean it's not real. It's something very positive and nice, no doubt, and I long for it. Just because I know a bit about the science behind it doesn't mean I think less of it.

I would have to disagree.

Just on the basis that a physical thing such as chemicals can effect a supposed non physical thing as mind.

It may be part of it but not the bulk of it.

Ellron · Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 2273 Location: NY upstate

tk750 wrote: bowerstan wrote: I consider myself a dreamer. I like to believe that love is one of the main means of achieving happiness in this life. It is for most, just talk to a truly happy married couple and you can see it.

Feelings aren't something that are controlled. If you're angry, you can attempt to supress it, but the reality is you are STILL angry just not showing it. Emotions just happen and there's nothing you can do other then trying to limit the amount of things that influence that emotion.

With that said, I can undoubtedly say that I am in love. There's no thinking or "if's" involved. There's no question. But what I'm trying to assess here what love is.

I have the feeling that is defined as love. But what is it to you?

Answer me a few psychological questions and I may be able to help you.

First off:

1) Do you prefer schedules?
2) Do you talk to many people at parties
3) Would you rather read a book or go to a party.
4) Do you or would you like to take solitary walks?

No
Depends on what type of party<--hate drinking parties. To fake for me.
same thing
Take one every once in awile.

bowerstan · Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 166 Location: Ontario

tk750 wrote: bowerstan wrote: I consider myself a dreamer. I like to believe that love is one of the main means of achieving happiness in this life. It is for most, just talk to a truly happy married couple and you can see it.

Feelings aren't something that are controlled. If you're angry, you can attempt to supress it, but the reality is you are STILL angry just not showing it. Emotions just happen and there's nothing you can do other then trying to limit the amount of things that influence that emotion.

With that said, I can undoubtedly say that I am in love. There's no thinking or "if's" involved. There's no question. But what I'm trying to assess here what love is.

I have the feeling that is defined as love. But what is it to you?

Answer me a few psychological questions and I may be able to help you.

First off:

1) Do you prefer schedules?
2) Do you talk to many people at parties
3) Would you rather read a book or go to a party.
4) Do you or would you like to take solitary walks?

1) Yes for the most part, but I don't actually follow through and make them because I have a very scattered mind. I'm unorganized.
2) If I've been drinking. If not mostly friends and aquantances I already know.
3) Go to a party.
4) Definately.

Johannes · Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 834

tk750 wrote:
Answer me a few psychological questions and I may be able to help you.

First off:

1) Do you prefer schedules?
2) Do you talk to many people at parties
3) Would you rather read a book or go to a party.
4) Do you or would you like to take solitary walks?

I have to ask, are you a licensed psychologist?

Protostar · Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:41 am Post subject:

Zoot wrote: BABY, DON'T HURT ME...

DON'T HURT ME...

NO MORE.

DAMN IT ZOOT!! You beat me to it. :evil: :lol:

Cato · Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 1274 Location: Ottawa, ON

Quote: I've been thinking about it a lot lately. Who here thinks it's real? Is it a mere biology, simple human instinct. Or is it something that separates us from animals. I mean, humans are complex enough to have emotions such as anger, sadness and happiness. So why not love? I just want to read some opinions on the matter.

Love? It's such a vapid term. It pertains to almost all favorable human experience. If by 'love' you mean prolonged sexual attraction coupled with desire to procreate, I think many animals share it with us. In this light, all that makes human 'love' unique is the human tendency to mythologize experiences.

Of course, culture has lately been undergoing a process of striping 'love' of it's myth, reducing some of us to the state of dumb beasts. *nods to the above post*

The Grandmaster · Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 1:48 pm Post subject:

Cato wrote: Quote: I've been thinking about it a lot lately. Who here thinks it's real? Is it a mere biology, simple human instinct. Or is it something that separates us from animals. I mean, humans are complex enough to have emotions such as anger, sadness and happiness. So why not love? I just want to read some opinions on the matter.

Love? It's such a vapid term. It pertains to almost all favorable human experience. If by 'love' you mean prolonged sexual attraction coupled with desire to procreate, I think many animals share it with us. In this light, all that makes human 'love' unique is the human tendency to mythologize experiences.

Of course, culture has lately been undergoing a process of striping 'love' of it's myth, reducing some of us to the state of dumb beasts. *nods to the above post*

What! You calling Protostar a dumb beast!? What for? As you would say, "for shame!" Why would you do such a thing? Becuase of his awesome signature? Please, do tell.

And I haven't forgetten our Gluttany thread either, we've still got work to do over there.