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dcoltonbrown



Joined: 13 Nov 2005
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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 1:10 am    Post subject:  

eXploiTeD wrote: I honestly did not know that. From a Canadian to an American, thanks for the heads up.
no sweat, buddy!
(make that two Canadians of good and common demeanor I have had the pleasure to meet on this forum)
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Boondoggle



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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 3:48 am    Post subject:  

dcoltonbrown wrote: Canada_rocks wrote: dcoltonbrown wrote: Canada_rocks wrote: Quote: "Thus, if a terrorist organization located in Afghanistan attempted to maintain communications with an individual in Canada, CSE would have the legal mandate to monitor both ends of the message traffic," he said in an essay about the law.


Step bellow the willy-nilly interceptions that go on in the US but interceptions nontheless. Leave it to the CSE to bow down to NSA initiatives.
there is one canadian...but of course, he can't discuss his own issues without an attack on the US. But then again, it is CR.

Where is the normal outrage over this invasion of privacy? WHere is the vitriol we have come to learn to love from our canadian foes.

Americans, where is your outrage?

I am pissed off, but your clearly attempting to make this thread an "in your face, Canada" thread so i simply responded by putting you in your place.
apparantly, you are not as pissed off about this as you are the Patriot Act or NSA.

Incidently, where are all of your canadian friends? I saw garythecanadian online, and I am sure there are a handful more lurking in the shadows. Why do they only respond to anti-american topics?

Actually, if you check the record, you'll find that I usually respond to Canadian threads. You'll also find that I've not posted anything about the NSA.

As for the Patriot Act, just think about the name for a moment. Is it supposed to imply that you are a patriot if you support it and unpatriotic if you don't? The Patriot Act has nothing to do with being patriotic.

You try to imply that Canadians should pay attention to their own backyard, but I follow Canadian news more than American news. However, unless you want either more Canadian threads or Canadians hijacking American threads, I think it's understandable that people generally stick to the topic, and that is often American politics, or more specifically, American foreign policy.
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LDA



Joined: 07 Nov 2005
Posts: 506
Location: Raleigh, NC

Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 4:08 am    Post subject:  

Canada_rocks wrote: dcoltonbrown wrote: Canada_rocks wrote: dcoltonbrown wrote: Canada_rocks wrote: Quote: "Thus, if a terrorist organization located in Afghanistan attempted to maintain communications with an individual in Canada, CSE would have the legal mandate to monitor both ends of the message traffic," he said in an essay about the law.


Step bellow the willy-nilly interceptions that go on in the US but interceptions nontheless. Leave it to the CSE to bow down to NSA initiatives.
there is one canadian...but of course, he can't discuss his own issues without an attack on the US. But then again, it is CR.

Where is the normal outrage over this invasion of privacy? WHere is the vitriol we have come to learn to love from our canadian foes.

Americans, where is your outrage?

I am pissed off, but your clearly attempting to make this thread an "in your face, Canada" thread so i simply responded by putting you in your place.
apparantly, you are not as pissed off about this as you are the Patriot Act or NSA.

Incidently, where are all of your canadian friends? I saw garythecanadian online, and I am sure there are a handful more lurking in the shadows. Why do they only respond to anti-american topics?

Give me a break buddy. If sombody that wasnt looking for a fight had poseted that article and was looking for a real discusion I would be against the CSE all the way. But you are clearly looking for a reason to rub our faces in s**t so my opposition now becomes you and not the article.

So make your point.

I have made mine. I don;t agree with the CSE, CSIS or anybody who spies on me period.

Jesus Christ, CR. When do you NOT look for an opportunity to rub our faces in s**t? You make up s**t, just to make Bush look bad, along with the rest of the left. You're in no place to criticize this legitimate discussion.
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Canada_Rocks



Joined: 07 Jan 2005
Posts: 9012
Location: Vancouver

Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 5:01 am    Post subject:  

LDA wrote: Canada_rocks wrote: dcoltonbrown wrote: Canada_rocks wrote: dcoltonbrown wrote: Canada_rocks wrote: Quote: "Thus, if a terrorist organization located in Afghanistan attempted to maintain communications with an individual in Canada, CSE would have the legal mandate to monitor both ends of the message traffic," he said in an essay about the law.


Step bellow the willy-nilly interceptions that go on in the US but interceptions nontheless. Leave it to the CSE to bow down to NSA initiatives.
there is one canadian...but of course, he can't discuss his own issues without an attack on the US. But then again, it is CR.

Where is the normal outrage over this invasion of privacy? WHere is the vitriol we have come to learn to love from our canadian foes.

Americans, where is your outrage?

I am pissed off, but your clearly attempting to make this thread an "in your face, Canada" thread so i simply responded by putting you in your place.
apparantly, you are not as pissed off about this as you are the Patriot Act or NSA.

Incidently, where are all of your canadian friends? I saw garythecanadian online, and I am sure there are a handful more lurking in the shadows. Why do they only respond to anti-american topics?

Give me a break buddy. If sombody that wasnt looking for a fight had poseted that article and was looking for a real discusion I would be against the CSE all the way. But you are clearly looking for a reason to rub our faces in s**t so my opposition now becomes you and not the article.

So make your point.

I have made mine. I don;t agree with the CSE, CSIS or anybody who spies on me period.

Jesus Christ, CR. When do you NOT look for an opportunity to rub our faces in s**t? You make up s**t, just to make Bush look bad, along with the rest of the left. You're in no place to criticize this legitimate discussion.

And taking Coltons side in Political suicide. But whatever, the right should know poltical suicide very well. Maybe you should actually read coltons attacks on Canada, but I wouldn't expect you to give a flying-f**k about it.

Wouldn't surprise me if you thought the movie 'Canadian Bacon' was actually a documentary.

And I never make s**t up. I tell it how it is. One thing I don't do, is come here and tell all the Americans that they are wieners and insignificant.
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Crazy Canuck



Joined: 28 Oct 2005
Posts: 189

Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 1:10 pm    Post subject:  

dcoltonbrown wrote:
ahh, but whether or not the eaves droppoing is legal or not is still debatable. Nonetheless, the anti-american, knee jerk reaction from canadians is quite evident as they point there fingers at anything American. AND, even at that, 3 pages and FINALLY a canadian comes in to discuss the issue. Hell, your comrades DIDN"T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THE LAW!

How is it still debatable? Bush didn't have permission to extend his authority the way he did...which makes it illegal. Case closed.

You're confused again! Being anti-Bush isn't anti-American. Besides, you didn't even know about Bush's illegal use of wiretapping until it made the news.
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Yea, Canadians and their personal attacks. Pathetic.
As for your resources, we can buy oil elsewhere. As for brains, bravery and ingenuity :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: You must be visiting the canadian propoganda sites!

You insult my entire country and all of its inhabitants and in response, I patriotically insulted you and made accurate reference to Bush's illegal behaviour. I have news for you boy, but yourself plus Bush doesn't add up to America to give you any justification to ridicule an entire nation and all of its inhabitants.

If you can buy oil elsewhere, where would that be? Perhaps Iraq as planned, but not until your mighty military can keep a few rebel hooligans under control.

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You know, the cold war. We were your deterrent. If anyone attacked you, you knew America would be there. So instead of being a real nation (sort of like being a real man) instead of building a military so you could defend yourself, you became dependent upin America's military prowess.

LMAO! Who was the U.S. supposedly deterring from attacking Canada? Your government and the Soviets were simply participating in a highly immature little boys game of "Mine is bigger than yours! Na na na boo boo!" :roll: The Cold War was a classic exhibit of unnecessary and expensive reactionary BS that only proved to the rest of the world how utterly childish, half-witted, egoistic, and cowardly the Soviet and American governments were at the time.

If Canada was dependent on America during the Cold War, it wasn't for defense; it was for your government and the Soviets to finally come to your senses so we wouldn't be caught in the middle of two mentally deficient beasts attacking each other. :roll:

Your "real nation...real man" theory is comical! Is a man who fears everyone and builds up a massive personal defense arsenal that must be bigger and better than everyone elses, more manly and strong than a man who prefers to use no weapons and his own strength and brains? For example....The U.S. will be Rambo and Canada will be Superman. Rambo has muscles but he's too afraid to use them and instead, hides behind a machine gun with unlimited bullets. Superman has great strength, morals and brains. Rambo instigates the fight and starts shooting at Superman...Superman swoops in, not wanting violence and uses his strength to jam up Rambo's gun, rendering him useless except for a match of brute muscle strength. Rambo, seeing his bravery tool that he referred to as a gun, no longer usable, runs "wee wee wee" all the way home and cries to his mommy for his pacifier. LMAO! Real manly and strong, indeed! :P


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Yea, it is called trade. Absorb may not be the best word, trade. 80% of you exports goes to the US. And yes, it is out of Charity and obligation. If it weren't for NAFTA, you guys would be suffereing.

I'm glad you see that it's called trade and not charity. Oh wait, you then contradict yourself and refer to it as charity again. You really need to bolster your thinking skills and come back with a real rebuttal! If it weren't for Canada, you guys would be declaring war on more nations than Iraq for oil. You also neglect to mention that Canada is your biggest trading partner as well. :roll:

Quote: We have the money that sustains you!

You must be visiting American propaganda sites that veer you away from the truth.

Quote: 30K in vietnam...good for them. You had a few brave men.
Korea, NATO operation
WWII, UK had to declare war for you
Pearl Harbor...they f****d with us and we entered the war as a truly INDEPENDENT nation. We didn't have to give praise to the king.

Where to begin with your erroneous statements? I'll just deal with the last one...Canada was a sovereign nation, free of British control before WW II. Your lack of facts is humorous! Do some research on the Statute of Westminster in 1931.

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WE freed north america

So, by your rationale, France rightfully owns the U.S.? After all, if it weren't for them, you wouldn't have won your independence. By the way, Canada freed itself and we did it without violence.

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1. You created the law because of US pressure, not because we were working close together. Your lax immigration policy raised concern...canada had no choice as americas lapdog.
2. I bet Canada gets attacked before the US OR the terrorist come across the Canadian border
3. Done with your insults yet?

LOL, Canada just can't win with arrogant jerks such as yourself, can we? When we do things as your friends, you label us as "lapdogs". When we utilize our independent rights to make our own decisions regarding such things as invading Iraq for the 2nd time, we're your "enemy". :roll:

If Canada's immigration policy was lax, what the hell was yours that allowed 19 hijackers to legally be living in your country, taking flight training and self defense? They didn't come from Canada.

Thank you for hoping that we get attacked. If we get attacked it will be because we're America's friend. Fortunately for your country, we won't allow a handful of arrogant, half-witted blowhards such as yourself, scare us into being your enemies.
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Turkish



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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Location: Newfoundland

Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 2:25 pm    Post subject:  

Quote: Your "real nation...real man" theory is comical! Is a man who fears everyone and builds up a massive personal defense arsenal that must be bigger and better than everyone elses, more manly and strong than a man who prefers to use no weapons and his own strength and brains? For example....The U.S. will be Rambo and Canada will be Superman. Rambo has muscles but he's too afraid to use them and instead, hides behind a machine gun with unlimited bullets. Superman has great strength, morals and brains. Rambo instigates the fight and starts shooting at Superman...Superman swoops in, not wanting violence and uses his strength to jam up Rambo's gun, rendering him useless except for a match of brute muscle strength. Rambo, seeing his bravery tool that he referred to as a gun, no longer usable, runs "wee wee wee" all the way home and cries to his mommy for his pacifier. LMAO! Real manly and strong, indeed! :P

Dont stoop down to coltons level, it doesnt get you anywhere and only makes you look bad. He trolls to get reactions like yours so he can have what he believes is more proof towards his argument against canada. You cant win with him cause he wont move away from his narrow and ignorant beliefs. Dont bother.

Quote: Where to begin with your erroneous statements? I'll just deal with the last one...Canada was a sovereign nation, free of British control before WW II. Your lack of facts is humorous! Do some research on the Statute of Westminster in 1931.

I tried to explain the statute of westminister and how canadian government works, but either he just doesnt understand or he refuses to let go of a talking point he loves to bring up in anti canadian threads. Either way, he wont change his views. [/quote]
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dcoltonbrown



Joined: 13 Nov 2005
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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 5:41 pm    Post subject:  

Crazy Canuck wrote: You insult my entire country and all of its inhabitants and in response, I patriotically insulted you and made accurate reference to Bush's illegal behaviour. I have news for you boy, but yourself plus Bush doesn't add up to America to give you any justification to ridicule an entire nation and all of its inhabitants.
You shouldn't call a black person boy, it is severely racist, and as usual an insult hurled by a canadian at anyone who dares to have an opposing opinion. Real tolerant there, racist!
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If you can buy oil elsewhere, where would that be? Perhaps Iraq as planned, but not until your mighty military can keep a few rebel hooligans under control.
It wasn't until recently that Canada became our #1 supplier. Venezuela is a close second. Then there are the arab nations, and of course, Iraq. We can get by without you, its not the same in reverse!


I will respond from the rest after I recooperate from your racist statement. Wow, how drole, yet uniquely canadian
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dcoltonbrown



Joined: 13 Nov 2005
Posts: 1337

Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 5:42 pm    Post subject:  

Canada_rocks wrote: LDA wrote: Canada_rocks wrote: dcoltonbrown wrote: Canada_rocks wrote: dcoltonbrown wrote: Canada_rocks wrote: Quote: "Thus, if a terrorist organization located in Afghanistan attempted to maintain communications with an individual in Canada, CSE would have the legal mandate to monitor both ends of the message traffic," he said in an essay about the law.


Step bellow the willy-nilly interceptions that go on in the US but interceptions nontheless. Leave it to the CSE to bow down to NSA initiatives.
there is one canadian...but of course, he can't discuss his own issues without an attack on the US. But then again, it is CR.

Where is the normal outrage over this invasion of privacy? WHere is the vitriol we have come to learn to love from our canadian foes.

Americans, where is your outrage?

I am pissed off, but your clearly attempting to make this thread an "in your face, Canada" thread so i simply responded by putting you in your place.
apparantly, you are not as pissed off about this as you are the Patriot Act or NSA.

Incidently, where are all of your canadian friends? I saw garythecanadian online, and I am sure there are a handful more lurking in the shadows. Why do they only respond to anti-american topics?

Give me a break buddy. If sombody that wasnt looking for a fight had poseted that article and was looking for a real discusion I would be against the CSE all the way. But you are clearly looking for a reason to rub our faces in s**t so my opposition now becomes you and not the article.

So make your point.

I have made mine. I don;t agree with the CSE, CSIS or anybody who spies on me period.

Jesus Christ, CR. When do you NOT look for an opportunity to rub our faces in s**t? You make up s**t, just to make Bush look bad, along with the rest of the left. You're in no place to criticize this legitimate discussion.

And taking Coltons side in Political suicide. But whatever, the right should know poltical suicide very well. Maybe you should actually read coltons attacks on Canada, but I wouldn't expect you to give a flying-f**k about it.

Wouldn't surprise me if you thought the movie 'Canadian Bacon' was actually a documentary.

And I never make s**t up. I tell it how it is. One thing I don't do, is come here and tell all the Americans that they are wieners and insignificant.

Political Suicide? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Someone here running for office?
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dcoltonbrown



Joined: 13 Nov 2005
Posts: 1337

Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 8:15 pm    Post subject:  

Boondoggle wrote: dcoltonbrown wrote: Canada_rocks wrote: dcoltonbrown wrote: Canada_rocks wrote: Quote: "Thus, if a terrorist organization located in Afghanistan attempted to maintain communications with an individual in Canada, CSE would have the legal mandate to monitor both ends of the message traffic," he said in an essay about the law.


Step bellow the willy-nilly interceptions that go on in the US but interceptions nontheless. Leave it to the CSE to bow down to NSA initiatives.
there is one canadian...but of course, he can't discuss his own issues without an attack on the US. But then again, it is CR.

Where is the normal outrage over this invasion of privacy? WHere is the vitriol we have come to learn to love from our canadian foes.

Americans, where is your outrage?

I am pissed off, but your clearly attempting to make this thread an "in your face, Canada" thread so i simply responded by putting you in your place.
apparantly, you are not as pissed off about this as you are the Patriot Act or NSA.

Incidently, where are all of your canadian friends? I saw garythecanadian online, and I am sure there are a handful more lurking in the shadows. Why do they only respond to anti-american topics?

Actually, if you check the record, you'll find that I usually respond to Canadian threads. You'll also find that I've not posted anything about the NSA.

As for the Patriot Act, just think about the name for a moment. Is it supposed to imply that you are a patriot if you support it and unpatriotic if you don't? The Patriot Act has nothing to do with being patriotic.

You try to imply that Canadians should pay attention to their own backyard, but I follow Canadian news more than American news. However, unless you want either more Canadian threads or Canadians hijacking American threads, I think it's understandable that people generally stick to the topic, and that is often American politics, or more specifically, American foreign policy.
how about you guys go to a canadian forum?
You guys already hijack threads (as seen here)
Canadians don't start canadiancentric threads, only anti-american drivel...why?
Here is a great canadian forum...canadianpoliticsonline.com

But, you demonize the patriot act because of the name. Would it be better if we called it the defense against killer muslim act? :roll:
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dcoltonbrown



Joined: 13 Nov 2005
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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 9:07 pm    Post subject:  

[quote="Crazy Canuck"]
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LMAO! Who was the U.S. supposedly deterring from attacking Canada? Your government and the Soviets were simply participating in a highly immature little boys game of "Mine is bigger than yours! Na na na boo boo!" :roll: The Cold War was a classic exhibit of unnecessary and expensive reactionary BS that only proved to the rest of the world how utterly childish, half-witted, egoistic, and cowardly the Soviet and American governments were at the time.
Then why is Canada in NATO? If defense is utterlyu ridiculous and Canadian is not threatened by any nation in any way...why so yo have ANY alliances?

Quote: If Canada was dependent on America during the Cold War, it wasn't for defense; it was for your government and the Soviets to finally come to your senses so we wouldn't be caught in the middle of two mentally deficient beasts attacking each other. :roll:
once again, seems to me as if Canada chose a side and chose to live under one sides umbrella.
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Your "real nation...real man" theory is comical! Is a man who fears everyone and builds up a massive personal defense arsenal that must be bigger and better than everyone elses, more manly and strong than a man who prefers to use no weapons and his own strength and brains? For example....The U.S. will be Rambo and Canada will be Superman. Rambo has muscles but he's too afraid to use them and instead, hides behind a machine gun with unlimited bullets. Superman has great strength, morals and brains. Rambo instigates the fight and starts shooting at Superman...Superman swoops in, not wanting violence and uses his strength to jam up Rambo's gun, rendering him useless except for a match of brute muscle strength. Rambo, seeing his bravery tool that he referred to as a gun, no longer usable, runs "wee wee wee" all the way home and cries to his mommy for his pacifier. LMAO! Real manly and strong, indeed! :P
I've been to Canada, I have worked with Canadians, I have slept with some pretty ugly canadian chicks...Canada is no superman. Hell, Canada can't even claim mini-me status!

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I'm glad you see that it's called trade and not charity. Oh wait, you then contradict yourself and refer to it as charity again. You really need to bolster your thinking skills and come back with a real rebuttal! If it weren't for Canada, you guys would be declaring war on more nations than Iraq for oil. You also neglect to mention that Canada is your biggest trading partner as well. :roll:
no, its charity. We can get our products from any other nation. It would take you a while to make up that deficit.
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You must be visiting American propaganda sites that veer you away from the truth.
We purchase 80% of your exports. Doesn't that take money?

Quote: 30K in vietnam...good for them. You had a few brave men.
Korea, NATO operation
WWII, UK had to declare war for you
Pearl Harbor...they f****d with us and we entered the war as a truly INDEPENDENT nation. We didn't have to give praise to the king.
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Where to begin with your erroneous statements? I'll just deal with the last one...Canada was a sovereign nation, free of British control before WW II. Your lack of facts is humorous! Do some research on the Statute of Westminster in 1931.
yea, this has been discussed before. the STatute of Westminster didn't really give Canada independence blah, blkah...look around in one of the threads, it was another issue skirted by you canadians.
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So, by your rationale, France rightfully owns the U.S.? After all, if it weren't for them, you wouldn't have won your independence. By the way, Canada freed itself and we did it without violence.
You know, france didn't really do much for us. A few years into the war, they donated some money and a measley 5500 troops...after the colonials started to turn the tide. Yes, they helped without a doubt...but not as much as a canadian would want to say. I would even venture to argue that we would have won without the French.

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Thank you for hoping that we get attacked. If we get attacked it will be because we're America's friend. Fortunately for your country, we won't allow a handful of arrogant, half-witted blowhards such as yourself, scare us into being your enemies.
but, you are not america;s friend. If you get attacke it will be because of your naivity. Canada is a prime target. You have terror cells operating already...America has tightened her borders, so the next best thing for the terrorists is to blow up canadians in the name in allah.

Don't worry, well open up an airport for you, well even provide a little aid. Hell, well probably fight for you too.
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Turkish



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Posts: 135
Location: Newfoundland

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 1:44 am    Post subject:  

Tell me something, is the United States spending anymore on there defense to "defend" canada? Honestly now, I doubt you would spending any less no matter how much we spend on our military. Your a paranoid country and with good reason to be, your defense spending would always be around what you spent through out the years.

Also your racist comment is hilarious...you of all people cant lecture someone on being prejudice. Your prejudice against a whole nation that includes black, white and all other colors of skins. You see canadians as insignifigant in comparisom to Americans, you feel we dont even have the right to be a soveriegn nation...but your complaing about a supposed racist comment? How can anyone take such a walking condradiction, such as yourself, seriously. Get off the high horse and take a look in the mirror before you make another comment like that again.

Thank god the majority of americans are not like you, because that would be a sad country.
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Boondoggle



Joined: 18 Oct 2004
Posts: 1276

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 6:45 am    Post subject:  

dcoltonbrown wrote: Boondoggle wrote: dcoltonbrown wrote: Canada_rocks wrote: dcoltonbrown wrote: Canada_rocks wrote: Quote: "Thus, if a terrorist organization located in Afghanistan attempted to maintain communications with an individual in Canada, CSE would have the legal mandate to monitor both ends of the message traffic," he said in an essay about the law.


Step bellow the willy-nilly interceptions that go on in the US but interceptions nontheless. Leave it to the CSE to bow down to NSA initiatives.
there is one canadian...but of course, he can't discuss his own issues without an attack on the US. But then again, it is CR.

Where is the normal outrage over this invasion of privacy? WHere is the vitriol we have come to learn to love from our canadian foes.

Americans, where is your outrage?

I am pissed off, but your clearly attempting to make this thread an "in your face, Canada" thread so i simply responded by putting you in your place.
apparantly, you are not as pissed off about this as you are the Patriot Act or NSA.

Incidently, where are all of your canadian friends? I saw garythecanadian online, and I am sure there are a handful more lurking in the shadows. Why do they only respond to anti-american topics?

Actually, if you check the record, you'll find that I usually respond to Canadian threads. You'll also find that I've not posted anything about the NSA.

As for the Patriot Act, just think about the name for a moment. Is it supposed to imply that you are a patriot if you support it and unpatriotic if you don't? The Patriot Act has nothing to do with being patriotic.

You try to imply that Canadians should pay attention to their own backyard, but I follow Canadian news more than American news. However, unless you want either more Canadian threads or Canadians hijacking American threads, I think it's understandable that people generally stick to the topic, and that is often American politics, or more specifically, American foreign policy.
how about you guys go to a canadian forum?
You guys already hijack threads (as seen here)
Canadians don't start canadiancentric threads, only anti-american drivel...why?
Here is a great canadian forum...canadianpoliticsonline.com

But, you demonize the patriot act because of the name. Would it be better if we called it the defense against killer muslim act? :roll:

How about I do what I like and you deal with it? I do visit Canadian forums BTW.

Hijack threads as seen here? Explain this has been hijacked. You bring up both Canadian and American policy in your argument; therefore, both are fair game in the debate (if you can call it that).

Actually, I have started Canadian threads, and I've replied to Canadian threads that others have started. I also, however, talk about international issues. Whether it be war, sanctions, or the UN, just to name a few, they're not simply American issues.
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Boondoggle



Joined: 18 Oct 2004
Posts: 1276

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 7:39 am    Post subject:  

dcoltonbrown wrote: Crazy Canuck wrote:
LMAO! Who was the U.S. supposedly deterring from attacking Canada? Your government and the Soviets were simply participating in a highly immature little boys game of "Mine is bigger than yours! Na na na boo boo!" :roll: The Cold War was a classic exhibit of unnecessary and expensive reactionary BS that only proved to the rest of the world how utterly childish, half-witted, egoistic, and cowardly the Soviet and American governments were at the time.
Then why is Canada in NATO? If defense is utterlyu ridiculous and Canadian is not threatened by any nation in any way...why so yo have ANY alliances?

WWII had nothing to do with defending Canada either, but Canada was still involved.

Both Canadian and American armed forces fight foreign wars. There are two questions here: Under what conditions should we get involved in foreign wars? This is why the UN and NATO were created. To what extent should we get involved? Considering that you don't have to get involved in foreign wars at all, sending a couple thousand troops to Afghanistan is more than Canada has to do, but we are talking about a nation that had 14,000 troops involved in D-Day alone. I believe Canada can and should do more, but its role in NATO has been more about helping less stable parts of the world than self-defense.
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Crazy Canuck



Joined: 28 Oct 2005
Posts: 189

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 12:30 pm    Post subject:  

Turkish wrote: [Dont stoop down to coltons level, it doesnt get you anywhere and only makes you look bad. He trolls to get reactions like yours so he can have what he believes is more proof towards his argument against canada. You cant win with him cause he wont move away from his narrow and ignorant beliefs. Dont bother.


While I do appreciate your advice, I feel that it's totally unwarranted. I was merely adding a cartoonish twist to the age old question, "Is a man who needs big weapons and to be bigger than his opponent, truly braver, tougher and better?" Or is he just weak and lacking courage? :wink:
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Crazy Canuck



Joined: 28 Oct 2005
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 12:38 pm    Post subject:  

dcoltonbrown wrote: You shouldn't call a black person boy, it is severely racist, and as usual an insult hurled by a canadian at anyone who dares to have an opposing opinion. Real tolerant there, racist!

It wasn't until recently that Canada became our #1 supplier. Venezuela is a close second. Then there are the arab nations, and of course, Iraq. We can get by without you, its not the same in reverse!


I will respond from the rest after I recooperate from your racist statement. Wow, how drole, yet uniquely canadian

LMAO! First of all, how the hell did I know that you were black? Second, in the dictionary, does it define "boy" as a racial comment directed at black people? The term "boy" has been around a lot longer than the slave days in the U.S. I was simply being as condescending to you as you were to me. :roll:

So, recently the U.S. has decided to be charitable to Canada and buy more of our oil than any other nation's?? Is that your argument? Or, is the increased consumption by rapidly advancing nations such as China, India, Russia, etc. starting to provide some competition for the U.S. market? Saudi Arabia can sell as much oil as they have to China, India, etc. They no longer need to rely on American, British, French business. The U.S. hates Hugo Chavez of Venezuela and he hates you. I guess the nation that's being charitable is Canada....we could sell our oil to China, India, Russia, etc. but for whatever reason, we still give you guys priority. Again, you're welcome! :roll:
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Crazy Canuck



Joined: 28 Oct 2005
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 1:02 pm    Post subject:  

dcoltonbrown wrote: Then why is Canada in NATO? If defense is utterlyu ridiculous and Canadian is not threatened by any nation in any way...why so yo have ANY alliances?

Where did I say that defense is utterly ridiculous? I said the Cold War was and it was. It wasn't a real war, but rather, two nations locking horns and acting like selfish brats, trying to one-up each other.

We're in NATO to offer our help when others need it and in return, if we need help, our allied friends will help us.

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once again, seems to me as if Canada chose a side and chose to live under one sides umbrella.

You like to keep saying that Canada chose sides and America defended us, but you've yet to provide me with an example of that happening. I can sit on the roof of my home with a canon, waiting to squash any alien attacks against my American neighbours....does that mean that I'm defending you? Or does it mean that possibly I will in the future but thus far haven't? By the way, Canada has come to America's defense on several occasions and unless you can finally provide me with one example of a time when America came to our defense, I'll just say that, if it ever happens, you'll simply be returning the I.O.U.

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I've been to Canada, I have worked with Canadians, I have slept with some pretty ugly canadian chicks...Canada is no superman. Hell, Canada can't even claim mini-me status!

Well, I guess that's just part of your American altruistic favours to your neighbours then isn't it? :roll: If you were any man at all, you'd have higher standards. I guess I'll base my opinions of all Americans on those incredibly intelligent, classy Jerry Springer guests that represent your nation so well. :roll:

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no, its charity. We can get our products from any other nation. It would take you a while to make up that deficit.

Then by all means, get your products from other nations. Don't let me stop you. You hate Communism; yet, you buy up the "Made in China" products like they're going out of style. Keep doing that and then sit back and watch China continue to usurp the U.S. as the world's so-called superpower. Your threats only make you look pathetic and hypocritical.

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We purchase 80% of your exports. Doesn't that take money?

The fact that you purchase 80% of our exports, means that you need 80% of our exports and it's cheaper to receive them by transport from Canada, rather than ship or cargo plane elsewhere. So you see, is it really charity if it's creating increased profit for the American industries doing the buying? Go to business school and learn something! :roll:

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yea, this has been discussed before. the STatute of Westminster didn't really give Canada independence blah, blkah...look around in one of the threads, it was another issue skirted by you canadians.

Of course it didn't because we already had independence back in 1867. The Statute of Westminster simply made it clear that the British government couldn't force Canada to do anything it didn't want to do.

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You know, france didn't really do much for us. A few years into the war, they donated some money and a measley 5500 troops...after the colonials started to turn the tide. Yes, they helped without a doubt...but not as much as a canadian would want to say. I would even venture to argue that we would have won without the French.

You know, the U.S. really didn't do much for us. They build their own military and have thus far, never defended Canada with it....they most certainly haven't provided us with a measly 5500 troops to help us win independence. So you see, the U.S. doing nothing for Canada's defense, makes you say that you've done everything....France doing something, makes you say that they've done very little and you could have done it on your own. Do you realize how stupid you sound?

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but, you are not america;s friend. If you get attacke it will be because of your naivity. Canada is a prime target. You have terror cells operating already...America has tightened her borders, so the next best thing for the terrorists is to blow up canadians in the name in allah.

Don't worry, well open up an airport for you, well even provide a little aid. Hell, well probably fight for you too.

The U.S. has terror cells operating in your country as well. If we're not your friend, stop doing business with us altogether. Stop fictitiously defending us and stop insulting all of us too.

Canada has tightened its borders just as much as the U.S. has. Your borders are so tight, several thousand Mexicans and other foreign nationals walk right across your southern border every day. :roll:

First you say that Canada is insignificant and then you say that Canada is a prime target. LOL, you're funny! You need to read more and get out more. You're a joke.
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leftneckredwing



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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 1:08 pm    Post subject:  

Colton seems to need to regard all other nations as lesser lights and unless they are licking America's boots they are not friends.

Does anyone want to be Colton's mini me? No takers?

Colton, have you come up with a figure on how much American taxpayer money has been spent on Canada's defense? It's been about a week since you said you would find that for me.
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artk



Joined: 27 Feb 2005
Posts: 1031
Location: Portland, Oregon

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 1:22 pm    Post subject:  

Quote: Wake up America, Canada is our enemy and war is the only way to resolve this pesky little issue.


:rofl:

You should have been a comedian.
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Canada_Rocks



Joined: 07 Jan 2005
Posts: 9012
Location: Vancouver

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 5:03 pm    Post subject:  

dcoltonbrown wrote: Boondoggle wrote: dcoltonbrown wrote: Canada_rocks wrote: dcoltonbrown wrote: Canada_rocks wrote: Quote: "Thus, if a terrorist organization located in Afghanistan attempted to maintain communications with an individual in Canada, CSE would have the legal mandate to monitor both ends of the message traffic," he said in an essay about the law.


Step bellow the willy-nilly interceptions that go on in the US but interceptions nontheless. Leave it to the CSE to bow down to NSA initiatives.
there is one canadian...but of course, he can't discuss his own issues without an attack on the US. But then again, it is CR.

Where is the normal outrage over this invasion of privacy? WHere is the vitriol we have come to learn to love from our canadian foes.

Americans, where is your outrage?

I am pissed off, but your clearly attempting to make this thread an "in your face, Canada" thread so i simply responded by putting you in your place.
apparantly, you are not as pissed off about this as you are the Patriot Act or NSA.

Incidently, where are all of your canadian friends? I saw garythecanadian online, and I am sure there are a handful more lurking in the shadows. Why do they only respond to anti-american topics?

Actually, if you check the record, you'll find that I usually respond to Canadian threads. You'll also find that I've not posted anything about the NSA.

As for the Patriot Act, just think about the name for a moment. Is it supposed to imply that you are a patriot if you support it and unpatriotic if you don't? The Patriot Act has nothing to do with being patriotic.

You try to imply that Canadians should pay attention to their own backyard, but I follow Canadian news more than American news. However, unless you want either more Canadian threads or Canadians hijacking American threads, I think it's understandable that people generally stick to the topic, and that is often American politics, or more specifically, American foreign policy.
how about you guys go to a canadian forum?
You guys already hijack threads (as seen here)
Canadians don't start canadiancentric threads, only anti-american drivel...why?
Here is a great canadian forum...canadianpoliticsonline.com

But, you demonize the patriot act because of the name. Would it be better if we called it the defense against killer muslim act? :roll:

You should know colton, you troll there on a regular basis :lol:
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Merika



Joined: 27 Dec 2005
Posts: 109
Location: USA

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 6:24 pm    Post subject:  

I'll always have a problem understanding why people are making the Patriot Act a point while using cell phones, credit cards and wanting to purchase a car navigational system. At WHAT point do you think what you do on a daily basis is a secret to begin with??????????

It's a MOOT POINT.
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