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clarity · Joined: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 280 Location: Burton

Why is is that alot of people belive that one day we will all be judged ether when we die or the day the earth is destrpyed. If that is so then what is the purpose of guilt.

Guilt lays dorment untill we do something bad that we know is wrong. The result of this is that we feel bad and are punished by ourselfs for doing that bad thing.

We are punished in life so why would we be punished in death

Rogabeetah · Joined: 30 Nov 2005 Posts: 2 Location: Paw Paw, MI

The way I see it...is that they preach this to people so that you live in fear of punishment, and will live to not be punished. Just a way for the religious bi***** to control you!

mojo · Joined: 08 Sep 2005 Posts: 5521 Location: Dreamland, NC

Rogabeetah wrote: The way I see it...is that they preach this to people so that you live in fear of punishment, and will live to not be punished. Just a way for the religious bi***** to control you!

I wish your first post wasnt filled with so much close minded selfisness. I know of know man or woman who has ever blindly followed any religious prnciple. In fact if people did listen to their righteous religious leaders and the bible there would be far less injustices in this world.

cavvie · Joined: 06 Nov 2004 Posts: 202 Location: VA

Ok, folks..back to the question: guilt.

Guilt would be the moral law written into your heart by your creator. Knowing something is wrong and feeling bad about it does not amount to punishment. If they were the case, then we'd only require apologies in the courtroom!!

Well, you sound sorry for raping and killing that 10 year-old...you're free to go!

Guilt does not equal punishment, personal or otherwise.

cassandrabandra · Joined: 03 Dec 2005 Posts: 853

clarity wrote: Why is is that alot of people belive that one day we will all be judged ether when we die or the day the earth is destrpyed. If that is so then what is the purpose of guilt.

Guilt lays dorment untill we do something bad that we know is wrong. The result of this is that we feel bad and are punished by ourselfs for doing that bad thing.

We are punished in life so why would we be punished in death

guilt is beating up on yourself because you can't find somebody else to do it for you. Or at least not enough to satisfy your own sense of just retribution.

Thats a good question for those who believe in an almighty God - but I have another:

Are people punished by earthly laws for the crimes they commit freed from the obligatory judgement of God? I mean, once you've done the time - should you be placed on trial for the same crime again?

If so - why do we have punishment here on earth? shouldn't all God fearing societies ban incarceration as anything but a preventative measure?

And ... in view of the principles of treating each other as we would have others treat us ... should we not treat those incarcerated for preventative reasons with more respect?

OK. well a series of questions.

WorldCitizenMovement · Joined: 05 Jul 2005 Posts: 194 Location: Ontario

clarity wrote: Why is is that alot of people belive that one day we will all be judged ether when we die or the day the earth is destrpyed. If that is so then what is the purpose of guilt.

Guilt lays dorment untill we do something bad that we know is wrong. The result of this is that we feel bad and are punished by ourselfs for doing that bad thing.

We are punished in life so why would we be punished in death

1) I dont think you can put a purpose on guilt or why we need it if religious theology and mysticism dictates our fate; guilt is a natural human emotion, or empathy, is unique to human beings so when we do something wrong, incorrect, or morally wrong, we can look upon that wrong doing and intellectually recourse our decision, actions, and choices to something of a more positive or productive outcome.

However, the theologian might say God placed guilt in human beings because when it decides its time for you to die or when it sooner or later decides to wipe us off this planet for whatever its reasons may be, you will have a better chance of pleasing him because by chance your short stay on earth in which you might have done something wrong to displease God, your guilt gives you opportunity to reorientate yourself to the good.

3. The believe in later judgement has always been a rather strong belief in religions. As to why, I dont know, the Egyptians believed in it, Christianity, Greek and Asian gods, etc. Probably is a natural thing to believe in if you worship some Supreme Being that has divine powers. Its like an Ancient King who has absolute power, his people who live under him do what they can to please him out of fear he will judge them wrongly and punish them, and if they do displease him, it is fearful guilt, so as to almost force the inidvidual to do otherwise. This belief in later judgment is quite the same, its fearful guilt for if God is not pleased with you when it kills you, than you must do all you can to please it now on Earth. So most probably, this belief in later judgement probably stems from our own socially heirarcheal nature as human beings.

The Ferryman · Joined: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 1518

The purpose of judgement is to eventually find out if any guilt you have is well-founded.

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clarity wrote: Why is is that alot of people belive that one day we will all be judged ether when we die or the day the earth is destrpyed. If that is so then what is the purpose of guilt.

Guilt lays dorment untill we do something bad that we know is wrong. The result of this is that we feel bad and are punished by ourselfs for doing that bad thing.

We are punished in life so why would we be punished in death

Psychopaths don't have guilt, they're devoid of all remorse.