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Jajo · Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 152

antonio62 wrote: Cooking basic meals is compulsory I think. I was taught that in high school anyway. In first and second year we had home economics and were taught how to sew and stuff like that and how to cook.

it is not compulsory only one school in my area out of 4 do it.

antonio62 · Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:31 am Post subject:

Well everyone around here dose it. Might just be Scotland.

Jajo · Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 152

antonio62 wrote: Well everyone around here dose it. Might just be Scotland.

You have devolved powers (as far as I am aware) in education and a totally different system to England.

antonio62 · Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:37 am Post subject:

Jajo wrote: antonio62 wrote: Well everyone around here dose it. Might just be Scotland.

You have devolved powers (as far as I am aware) in education and a totally different system to England.

Yeh it's not even the same course or exams. I think cooking should be taught everywhere. Probably started at a younger age so you can learn more advanced skills in high school.

Jajo · Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 152

antonio62 wrote: Jajo wrote: antonio62 wrote: Well everyone around here dose it. Might just be Scotland.

You have devolved powers (as far as I am aware) in education and a totally different system to England.

Yeh it's not even the same course or exams. I think cooking should be taught everywhere. Probably started at a younger age so you can learn more advanced skills in high school.

With all this talk on heathly meal in schools I am suprised this issue has not become more important. As the only cooking I learnt at school was how to make bread and that lasted 1 hour in year 3 and have no idea how to do it now.

Pimpkin · Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 2:22 pm Post subject:

Jajo wrote: antonio62 wrote: Jajo wrote: antonio62 wrote: Well everyone around here dose it. Might just be Scotland.

You have devolved powers (as far as I am aware) in education and a totally different system to England.

Yeh it's not even the same course or exams. I think cooking should be taught everywhere. Probably started at a younger age so you can learn more advanced skills in high school.

With all this talk on heathly meal in schools I am suprised this issue has not become more important. As the only cooking I learnt at school was how to make bread and that lasted 1 hour in year 3 and have no idea how to do it now.

I wish I knew how to cook make bread. The only things I've ever been shown to make are cakes and curries. The cakes were invariably inedible and the curries too hot!!

bury · Joined: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 58

On the subject of education does anyone have an opinion on Blair's white paper.

here's the jist of it

• Allowing schools to become independent trusts, with more say
over admissions, staffing and finances

• Local authorities become "champions" for good schools, rather than
education providers

• Parents encouraged to set up their own schools

• A "schools commissioner" and network of advisers to help parents

• More help with transport costs for poorer families

BBC

the PM has come under some fire for this but refuses to make changes despite a challenge by more than 50 MPs.

i personally think these reforms are pretty stupid and they don't seem to be based on any evidence what so ever.

Jajo · Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 152

bury wrote: On the subject of education does anyone have an opinion on Blair's white paper.

here's the jist of it

• Allowing schools to become independent trusts, with more say
over admissions, staffing and finances

• Local authorities become "champions" for good schools, rather than
education providers

• Parents encouraged to set up their own schools

• A "schools commissioner" and network of advisers to help parents

• More help with transport costs for poorer families

BBC

the PM has come under some fire for this but refuses to make changes despite a challenge by more than 50 MPs.

i personally think these reforms are pretty stupid and they don't seem to be based on any evidence what so ever.

• Local authorities become "champions" for good schools, rather than
education providers.

this is what I always take issue with, also the idea of 'Choice' for parents, there should be not 'good' schools as that implies that it is better than another all schools should provide the same high standard of education and a divide between the good and bad should not be reinforced by choice and LEAs putting them first.

And this is just found laughable 'Parents encouraged to set up their own schools' my secondary schools PTA has 6 parents on it for a school of over 1000 and 3 of them are the parents of friends who came from my Primary school PTA and move to this one. Parents don't want to have to do anything they expect the goverment to do it for them.

bob.appleyard · Joined: 15 Oct 2005 Posts: 7684 Location: Manchestar, innit

Focus should be made at making every school better, not on encouraging more layers of hierarchy within an already unequal system.

More gloating at the PM -- a flagship PFI hospital is projecting a £100m deficit.

bury · Joined: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 58

a slap in the face for Blair, Prescott's now come out publicly against these reforms.

and i have to say that the more i look at these reforms the more shoddy they look.

giving parents the "choice" to take their kids out of failing schools seems to me like an attempt to weasel out of the difficult, time consuming and expensive job of improving those schools.