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John
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| Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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Mailech wrote: John wrote: Mailech wrote: John wrote: Mailech wrote: John wrote: Moses wasn't the Messiah, nither was David nor Hezekiah. The Messiah is THE Messiah.
You bring up a good point, maybe I'll start a thread on that who is the Jewish Messiah and what is his role, read the prophets. His role is to spread the true word of G-d to all the nations. You don't have to be G-d to do that.
His word is being spread throughout the nations.
Do you know how and in the name of who?
First of all I mean His real word. Second I do know who is spreading a fascimile, Mohammad
I read the same Holy book as you.
Yes you do, plus some other books
That's true. But it would be false to say that God's word hasn't been spread to me. I believe every word of the OT to be the inerrant word of God. |
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Mailech
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| Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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John wrote: That's true. But it would be false to say that God's word hasn't been spread to me. I believe every word of the OT to be the inerrant word of God.
Good that is a first step, the next step is learning how to read those inerrant words of G-d, for that you need a teacher. |
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John
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| Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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Mailech wrote: John wrote: That's true. But it would be false to say that God's word hasn't been spread to me. I believe every word of the OT to be the inerrant word of God.
Good that is a first step, the next step is learning how to read those inerrant words of G-d, for that you need a teacher.
A teacher? |
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Mailech
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| Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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John wrote: Mailech wrote: John wrote: That's true. But it would be false to say that God's word hasn't been spread to me. I believe every word of the OT to be the inerrant word of God.
Good that is a first step, the next step is learning how to read those inerrant words of G-d, for that you need a teacher.
A teacher?
Yes a teacher, even Moshe our Teacher had a teacher, everyone needs a teacher. |
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John
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| Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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Mailech wrote: John wrote: Mailech wrote: John wrote: That's true. But it would be false to say that God's word hasn't been spread to me. I believe every word of the OT to be the inerrant word of God.
Good that is a first step, the next step is learning how to read those inerrant words of G-d, for that you need a teacher.
A teacher?
Yes a teacher, even Moshe our Teacher had a teacher, everyone needs a teacher.
Well, explain exactly what you mean. |
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John
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| Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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I found another opinion on this..
http://answering-islam.org.uk/BibleCom/is9-6.html |
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Mailech
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| Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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John wrote: Mailech wrote: John wrote: Mailech wrote: John wrote: That's true. But it would be false to say that God's word hasn't been spread to me. I believe every word of the OT to be the inerrant word of God.
Good that is a first step, the next step is learning how to read those inerrant words of G-d, for that you need a teacher.
A teacher?
Yes a teacher, even Moshe our Teacher had a teacher, everyone needs a teacher.
Well, explain exactly what you mean.
I mean why was Moshe on the mount for 40 days, if it was merely to get the Torah, that could have been done in a few minutes. G-d was conveying to Moshe the corpus of knowledge that is the Torah. All of it Oral and Written.
So Moshe needed a teacher, because just the text was not enough. Moshe gave the Torah to the Israelites and Joshua was his chief desciple. After Moshe was gone Joshua because the main teacher to the Jews. After Joshua was the Elders then the Judges the prophets etc. They each had teachers going all the way down to the Tanaim, Amoraim, Geonim, Rishonim, Achronim and then today.
Each one had a teacher. I also have teachers. My teachers are all those people including those learned ones that exist today.
You see just like Moshe, I can't understand the Torah without a teacher. So I use the people who learned from the people who learned from Moshe. |
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Mailech
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| Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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John wrote: I found another opinion on this..
http://answering-islam.org.uk/BibleCom/is9-6.html
We can argue about his grammer, but I will leave that to the native speakers. What I can say is the quote from the Gemara is a bad example since clearly it is not a translation which can be seen from the fact of the way it is parsed and because the word G-d is not there. It is clear that what is written there is not a literal interpretation (pshat) but on the level of drash which is more of an exegis |
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Duchifas
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| Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: That's true. But it would be false to say that God's word hasn't been spread to me. I believe every word of the OT to be the inerrant word of God.
Yes, but you rely on some translators' word that the word they translated is the inerrant word. As we discussed many times, that proposition is highly debatable. |
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John
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| Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:12 am Post subject: |
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Quote: Yes, but you rely on some translators' word that the word they translated is the inerrant word.
As do you.... |
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