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cap'n queasy



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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:14 am    Post subject: Interested in the concept of Djinn.  

I find this a very interesting concept.

Can anyone lead me to some good websites or books so I can learn more about this concept?
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pharaoh



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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 3:59 am    Post subject: Re: Interested in the concept of Djinn.  

cap'n queasy wrote: I find this a very interesting concept.

Can anyone lead me to some good websites or books so I can learn more about this concept?

Why do you find it interesting and from where did you get your initial information about the Djinn?
Just asking.
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cap'n queasy



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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:43 pm    Post subject:  

I think there is something to it. And just reading various stuff.
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Muslima



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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 2:58 am    Post subject:  

I just joined the forum, because i find interesting and worthy, and i am willing to answer your questions about the djin. it is a very long issue, so it will be easier if you are more specific.


anyways, i am going to give you a very brief summary about the djin. We , muslims, believe that

there are two types, djin, who are the good guys, and saitins, who are the bad guys
they could see us but we can't
they are made of fire
each muslims has what we call "qareen", which means literaly best friend who nevers seperate, but in this case the is a saitin, "shaytan" in arabic, who never leaves you and always tells you to do bad things. there are some saying that help muslims to get rid of them for short periods.
the djin are muslims, because islam is for every living organism on earth, and saitins are non-muslims.
saitins have a master called "iblees", who caused adam and his wife "hawa" (sorry i can't remeber her name in english), and pledged allah that he will make most of the people on earth disobey allah except the ones who are in high standards in thier belief.


the most interesting part is that saitins and djins could live in human bodies for various reasons. for example some males and females from the djins and saitins fall in love with human males and females , so they decide to live in their bodies, it is similar to the exorcist but without the ugly face.
when yawning we should cover our hands with the back of the right hand in order to prevent the saitin from entering our bodies.
if you ever saw a group of muslims praying you might have noticed them standing next to each other very closely in lines, that is because gaps between people who are praying help the saitins to interrupt the concentration of the praying.


if i keep going on i won't finish, so i hope that what i wrote is what you are looking for, and if you have any questions feel free to ask

its my pleasure to answer!
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cap'n queasy



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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:02 am    Post subject:  

Couldn't the ones that say they are good be lying? After all they delight in tricking humans do they not?
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free thinking american



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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:03 am    Post subject:  

Muslima wrote: I just joined the forum, because i find interesting and worthy, and i am willing to answer your questions about the djin. it is a very long issue, so it will be easier if you are more specific.


anyways, i am going to give you a very brief summary about the djin. We , muslims, believe that

there are two types, djin, who are the good guys, and saitins, who are the bad guys
they could see us but we can't
they are made of fire
each muslims has what we call "qareen", which means literaly best friend who nevers seperate, but in this case the is a saitin, "shaytan" in arabic, who never leaves you and always tells you to do bad things. there are some saying that help muslims to get rid of them for short periods.
the djin are muslims, because islam is for every living organism on earth, and saitins are non-muslims.
saitins have a master called "iblees", who caused adam and his wife "hawa" (sorry i can't remeber her name in english), and pledged allah that he will make most of the people on earth disobey allah except the ones who are in high standards in thier belief.


the most interesting part is that saitins and djins could live in human bodies for various reasons. for example some males and females from the djins and saitins fall in love with human males and females , so they decide to live in their bodies, it is similar to the exorcist but without the ugly face.
when yawning we should cover our hands with the back of the right hand in order to prevent the saitin from entering our bodies.
if you ever saw a group of muslims praying you might have noticed them standing next to each other very closely in lines, that is because gaps between people who are praying help the saitins to interrupt the concentration of the praying.


if i keep going on i won't finish, so i hope that what i wrote is what you are looking for, and if you have any questions feel free to ask

its my pleasure to answer!

:roll:
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Muslima



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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:08 am    Post subject:  

its not them who say they are good, there is a whole "sura" in the quran that speaks about djins who converted to islam when it was first known. we can't speak to them to know, but we believe that there are many of them that believe in islam and are muslims like me!
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pharaoh



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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:15 am    Post subject:  

Muslima wrote: I just joined the forum, because i find interesting and worthy, and i am willing to answer your questions about the djin. it is a very long issue, so it will be easier if you are more specific.


anyways, i am going to give you a very brief summary about the djin. We , muslims, believe that

there are two types, djin, who are the good guys, and saitins, who are the bad guys
they could see us but we can't
they are made of fire
each muslims has what we call "qareen", which means literaly best friend who nevers seperate, but in this case the is a saitin, "shaytan" in arabic, who never leaves you and always tells you to do bad things. there are some saying that help muslims to get rid of them for short periods.
the djin are muslims, because islam is for every living organism on earth, and saitins are non-muslims.
saitins have a master called "iblees", who caused adam and his wife "hawa" (sorry i can't remeber her name in english), and pledged allah that he will make most of the people on earth disobey allah except the ones who are in high standards in thier belief.


the most interesting part is that saitins and djins could live in human bodies for various reasons. for example some males and females from the djins and saitins fall in love with human males and females , so they decide to live in their bodies, it is similar to the exorcist but without the ugly face.
when yawning we should cover our hands with the back of the right hand in order to prevent the saitin from entering our bodies.
if you ever saw a group of muslims praying you might have noticed them standing next to each other very closely in lines, that is because gaps between people who are praying help the saitins to interrupt the concentration of the praying.


if i keep going on i won't finish, so i hope that what i wrote is what you are looking for, and if you have any questions feel free to ask

its my pleasure to answer!

Wow, there are alot of wrong things in your post.
Btw where are you from?
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cap'n queasy



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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:18 am    Post subject:  

free thinking american wrote: Muslima wrote: I just joined the forum, because i find interesting and worthy, and i am willing to answer your questions about the djin. it is a very long issue, so it will be easier if you are more specific.


anyways, i am going to give you a very brief summary about the djin. We , muslims, believe that

there are two types, djin, who are the good guys, and saitins, who are the bad guys
they could see us but we can't
they are made of fire
each muslims has what we call "qareen", which means literaly best friend who nevers seperate, but in this case the is a saitin, "shaytan" in arabic, who never leaves you and always tells you to do bad things. there are some saying that help muslims to get rid of them for short periods.
the djin are muslims, because islam is for every living organism on earth, and saitins are non-muslims.
saitins have a master called "iblees", who caused adam and his wife "hawa" (sorry i can't remeber her name in english), and pledged allah that he will make most of the people on earth disobey allah except the ones who are in high standards in thier belief.


the most interesting part is that saitins and djins could live in human bodies for various reasons. for example some males and females from the djins and saitins fall in love with human males and females , so they decide to live in their bodies, it is similar to the exorcist but without the ugly face.
when yawning we should cover our hands with the back of the right hand in order to prevent the saitin from entering our bodies.
if you ever saw a group of muslims praying you might have noticed them standing next to each other very closely in lines, that is because gaps between people who are praying help the saitins to interrupt the concentration of the praying.


if i keep going on i won't finish, so i hope that what i wrote is what you are looking for, and if you have any questions feel free to ask

its my pleasure to answer!

:roll:

Don't be too skeptical, all cultures know of these beings. Moderns call them UFO's. Millions of people see them.
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cap'n queasy



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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:20 am    Post subject:  

Would you guys call these beings Djinn?

http://deoxy.org/h_secret.htm
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Muslima



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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:26 am    Post subject:  

i am not being skeptical, and what i am saying is totally different than aliens.

first aliens are not made of fire and people on earth have some kind of an image for aliens, whereas for djins we only know that they are made of fire, we don't know how do they look like.

then aliens don't live on earth while djins do, and actually we believe that when allah first created the earth, there was a war between saitins and angels, they are different than the christain angels. it resulted in the execution of saitins from land to water.
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Muslima



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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:30 am    Post subject:  

elves, fauns and fairies are not included with the djin. they are actually western fantasy, in my opinion.
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pharaoh



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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:33 am    Post subject:  

Quote: then aliens don't live on earth while djins do, and actually we believe that when allah first created the earth, there was a war between saitins and angels, they are different than the christain angels. it resulted in the execution of saitins from land to water.

Wrong again. There was never a war between the Jinn and angels.
Excuse me but from where did you get your info on the jinn?
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cap'n queasy



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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:35 am    Post subject:  

Muslima wrote: elves, fauns and fairies are not included with the djin. they are actually western fantasy, in my opinion.

The quareen you mentioned is just like the co-walker of Scotland.

The way these beings are described by today's people is a lot different than what they really are.

They are not harmless little people.
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Muslima



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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:35 am    Post subject:  

wrong again?!

i don't think i said anything wrong about the jinn.

and yes there was a war between the angels and jinns.
go look it up if you don't know it. IT IS EVERYWHERE!
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Muslima



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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:37 am    Post subject:  

by the way i am from a place on earth that is the best in islam, and my country is one of the countries that are considered the most islamic countries but its not Saudia Arabia,

where are you from?
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Muslima



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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:38 am    Post subject:  

but in our religiong ther are harmless, cap n'queasy

i think it depends on religions
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cap'n queasy



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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:40 am    Post subject:  

Quote: then aliens don't live on earth

I think they do. There is no life in outer space.

But they delight in deceiving us so they pose as something they are not.

If you notice many "UFO's" exhibit qualities that defy reality.
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cap'n queasy



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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:43 am    Post subject:  

Muslima wrote: but in our religiong ther are harmless, cap n'queasy

i think it depends on religions

Perhaps. But I don't think that. Deception is not harmless. There must be some reason why they do it.

I think they are what is called a demon in the Bible. They can possess or deceive people.
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Muslima



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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:45 am    Post subject:  

you are right, they are made decieve muslims into disobeying allah's commands. they never do good things.
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