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[Shadow_Realm]

b_moh wrote: :shock: :shock: :shock: OMG THIS IS HORRIBLE

who cares about France :lol: :twisted:

O wait your from Canada. You have a good French population.....Then i feel some sympathy for you.

Anyways I never see the point of a riot. Destroy your own country because you hate it? I hate my parents to a point. However im not going to destroy their home even if i did hate them. Because it is also my home that i am destroying

[andres]

I dont think it's horrible or good. I mean the reasoning behind the riots is awful and i think overall it's a good thing this happend. Maybe french officials will realize their country isn't as great as they want to make the world think.

[Ashton Whithers]

This is the perfect opportunity for someone in France who is intelligent and not Muslim to organize a full scale bid for power.

[Ashton Whithers]

No, the whole thing indicates flux. 12 day riots are not normal in France, and while yes, it does have something to do with the fact that France just lost its empire, and that the rioters are still peeved about being imperialized anyway, the main thing to note is that the ire is toward the existing government, not the old one. The existing government that has done little to end racial segregation, which leaves ghettoes where old wounds can fester. The existing government that has prohibitted free display of many religious symbols. France is ill, if we see the age and organization of the rioters rise, I would suggest that France may be fatally ill. We tend to think of nations today as permanent entities, but it has been fifteen years since the world map was last redrawn, and in an age where an army can move three thousand miles a week, that is a long time. If a smart man in France decides to rouse the Christians about their oppression, ally them with the Muslims and immigrants already feeling the bite, and give a few of them guns, we could have a new dictator in a few years.

[mrster]

What do yo want the leaders to do, I'm sure you'd prefer if Paris went the American way and started shooting at their own citizens, huh?? ??

Sorry to dissapoint ya buddy, but only America hates their own people enough to kill them on a regular basis. the French government isn't the sick sadistic government your government is. Believe it or not, there are some countries that actually use lethal force as a... get this... LAST RESORT!!!

In the US, this riot would have left dozens dead, Bush would be calling them EVIL, and the US would expect worldwide sympathy.

[sfcwoodret]

It's Pres. Chirac at his finest; no backbone!

[sadashivan]

Recent French riot in the streets of Paris suburbs and other parts have awakened the world, that even unemployment can be a reason for unrest among the population. Before, burning cars and stores the French government never realized there could be the problem of unemployment crisis too with such a developed country. Thanks to media for its efforts to spread information. French is always ahead for the revolutions and this riot is the revolution that made Government to rethink of its policies. It is beginning!!!!

There is ethnic division in the country but has less effect on the country’s culture. People in this country are more modern and understanding so ethnic or racial crisis is negligible. People believe their weekends in seacoast rather than going to church. Most churches are empty even on Sundays but recently some Muslim communities have begun their presence effective. Nearly 10% of population is Muslim from Africa or other parts, and 10% are Chinese, east European, Sri-Lankan, and other Asians. All together form 20% of total population of the country. 90% of them have sheltered in urban cities and 70% of them live in poverty.

Therefore, we should not blame racism alone for the riot rather the blame should go to inequality due to wide gap between poor and rich. Major crisis among these communities is the lack of suitable opportunities to upgrade their standard of life. They have to content with limited choices. Governments have never tried to uplift their standard of life. They find employment problems due to ineligibility for better opportunities. They are not still improved enough to fit into French economic growth and the government too has not initiated to promote them.

Working class including the white population is unhappy, as there is wide gap between the demand and supply of employment opportunities. Because of high supply of employment with less demand, most of them work in minimum salary. Trade unions can only fight for the minimum salary but the issue is different. The main issue is lack of demand for employment to determine worth of job. Automation has reduced the scope of employment opportunities. I visited one liquor industry in Normandy and found 2 people running the show, also the self service in many sectors have contributed to reduce employment opportunities. Therefore, the government has to reevaluate the situation and open more areas and scopes of employment opportunities.

Five% of total working population is in agriculture and 25% in industries, indicates the education system is in relation to urban service sectors that consume nearly 70% of the working population. Major percentage of rural agricultural and industrial employment is taken-care by automatic units. Excessive usage of automation is curse as long as people sit without employment.

The country is in socialist pattern, yet governments’ protection is for big groups. Therefore, super giants like Carrefour, Leclerc, Auchan etc monopolize the market to squeeze farmers and small manufacturers to make high margin. Competition minimizes the work force. Big groups get bigger and bigger on the other hand working class goes poorer and poorer. Living expenses are too high and to maintain they need enough salary to meet minimum requirements. Small entrepreneurs’ claim 35 hours working law is a black spot to the economy. My plea to this is the claim is baseless, when major population is involved in service sectors and even the industries run by least work force. Governments need to consider distribution of equal opportunities and resources to match needs of the population. Excessive of automation is unsuitable to any country as long as the population does not have employment.

Link to this article: http://www.sadashivan.com/frenchriotanunemploymentexplosion/

[SilveryMinnow]

[Pzatchok]

Nice map

[opionated]

was this really the result of the deaths of two adolescents, or was it related to more historical, intrinsic causes. . the immigration issue in France? A history of racism with regards to immigration . . triggered by the deaths of two adolescents? To what extent can the riots be blamed on soley immediate and on the surface causes? ..And the leader of le Frond National. . his speech at Le Palais Royal. . . . . modern propaganda? A way to gain votes in favor of his party?

What do you think?