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johnz
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:28 pm Post subject: Wales, principality? |
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can a great person explain what Wales is to the UK, or what a principality is because that is what its stated to be, i dont understand!
any imput, babble, drivel, mumbles, whispers or owt else apreciated |
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thundertaker
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| Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 5:21 am Post subject: |
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| Constitutionally, Wales is a principality within the Kingdom of England. Scotland is a seperate kingdom in it's own right within the United Kingdom, and Northern Ireland is the remnant of the Kingdom of Ireland that remains within the Union. Technically speaking, Welshmen are Englishmen in law, much like Cornwall. Though both have a tendency to get a bit upset if you describe them as English.... |
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johnz
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| Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 9:36 am Post subject: |
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thundertaker wrote: Constitutionally, Wales is a principality within the Kingdom of England. Scotland is a seperate kingdom in it's own right within the United Kingdom, and Northern Ireland is the remnant of the Kingdom of Ireland that remains within the Union. Technically speaking, Welshmen are Englishmen in law, much like Cornwall. Though both have a tendency to get a bit upset if you describe them as English....
cheers
well, i understood you perfectly, of course i google and tried wiki first but wiki for some reason went out of its way to complicate the explanation. |
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JDnCoke
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| Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 10:21 am Post subject: |
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| Meh, I say let it be it's own country. |
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Chymical
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| Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:55 am Post subject: |
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Wales is Englands sheep farm, Nz to our Australia...
Principality=Owned. |
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JDnCoke
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| Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:07 am Post subject: |
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Chymical wrote: Wales is Englands sheep farm, Nz to our Australia...
Principality=Owned.
Australia has more sheep than NZ...
Anyway I'd prefer Wales to be a Principality, less taxes. :lol: |
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Chymical
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| Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:57 am Post subject: |
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JDnCoke wrote: Chymical wrote: Wales is Englands sheep farm, Nz to our Australia...
Principality=Owned.
Australia has more sheep than NZ...
Anyway I'd prefer Wales to be a Principality, less taxes. :lol:
oh dear, sorry Per Capita, Per Capita... More bang for the buck in NZ
No we are Liberals, MORE TAXES!!! TAX MEEE!!! TAX MEEEE! |
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JDnCoke
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| Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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Chymical wrote: JDnCoke wrote: Australia has more sheep than NZ...
Anyway I'd prefer Wales to be a Principality, less taxes. :lol:
oh dear, sorry Per Capita, Per Capita... More bang for the buck in NZ
No we are Liberals, MORE TAXES!!! TAX MEEE!!! TAX MEEEE!
You should read theakanzafront's sig, more taxes is not a Liberal concept. It's a Traditional Conservative / Socialist one... |
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Robin Hood
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| Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: No we are Liberals, MORE TAXES!!! TAX MEEE!!! TAX MEEEE!
I'm a liberal and believe that tax = theft. Yes, that does make me quite extreme, and yes I do believe that theft is wrong. |
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JDnCoke
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Reason wrote: I'm a liberal and believe that tax = theft. Yes, that does make me quite extreme, and yes I do believe that theft is wrong.
I'm a Liberal and I believe misspent taxes is theft and high taxes are taking the mick. |
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The Redcoat
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| We basically took over Wales by building 5 castles there... Castles are now obsolete, keep your windows locked at night from now on.. |
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JDnCoke
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| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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The Redcoat wrote: We basically took over Wales by building 5 castles there... Castles are now obsolete, keep your windows locked at night from now on..
But high energy forcefields aren't! |
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Pimpkin
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JDnCoke wrote: Chymical wrote: Wales is Englands sheep farm, Nz to our Australia...
Principality=Owned.
Australia has more sheep than NZ...
Anyway I'd prefer Wales to be a Principality, less taxes. :lol:
NZ has more sheep than people. |
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Nico
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Pimpkin wrote: JDnCoke wrote: Chymical wrote: Wales is Englands sheep farm, Nz to our Australia...
Principality=Owned.
Australia has more sheep than NZ...
Anyway I'd prefer Wales to be a Principality, less taxes. :lol:
NZ has more sheep than people.
Yes, yes :-|
On the bright side, they are mostly in the South Island. the North is all cows and whatnot.
But one never tires of the sheep jokes :P |
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Snow Patrol
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| Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 7:58 am Post subject: |
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Nico wrote: But one never tires of the sheep
:think: |
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The Redcoat
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Nico wrote: Pimpkin wrote: JDnCoke wrote: Chymical wrote: Wales is Englands sheep farm, Nz to our Australia...
Principality=Owned.
Australia has more sheep than NZ...
Anyway I'd prefer Wales to be a Principality, less taxes. :lol:
NZ has more sheep than people.
Yes, yes :-|
On the bright side, they are mostly in the South Island. the North is all cows and whatnot.
But one never tires of the sheep jokes :P
The south island has it's own alps, colder too, just like home. |
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bob.appleyard
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| "Prince" is derived from princeps, "first citizen", which was first used by Octavian when he created the imperial title. So it effectively means an authoritarian ruler. When you start seeing references to principalities (e.g. principatus capuae), the word had undergone something of a shift: the title was translated onto strong leaders of smaller territories than kingdoms (sometimes within them). In Britain, the word changed in meaning again to mean the child of a monarch -- this was primarily down to the conquest of Wales, and prevailing political custom following that event whereby the monarch would crown their first-born the Prince of Wales. |
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