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[AnOpenMind]

JoeTrumps wrote: AnOpenMind wrote: F****t- in homophobic usage, a slang term of abuse denoting (in general) a gay man, but connoting (in particular) the gender image of male wimpiness or effeminacy.

redneck-A poor white person in the southern or midwestern states.

Do you not see how your term is slightly more perjorative. Just a little? :!oops:

are you kidding me?

go to Kansas and call somebody a redneck and see if they don't take offense to it. You are trying to be inflammatory and demeaning to a group of people when you use that word, AND YOU KNOW IT. Just like I would be doing if I used the word I mentioned.
HAHAHAHA, you forget that I live south of Atlanta, Joe. There are kids here that are proud to be called Rednecks, and take no offence at all. But I'd really like you to show me any gay person that would want you to call them a F****t. And by the way, Joe, a bigot is Quote: A prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own. Sounds more like you.

[Melchior]

JoeTrumps wrote: AnOpenMind wrote: F****t- in homophobic usage, a slang term of abuse denoting (in general) a gay man, but connoting (in particular) the gender image of male wimpiness or effeminacy.

redneck-A poor white person in the southern or midwestern states.

Do you not see how your term is slightly more perjorative. Just a little? :!oops:

are you kidding me?

go to Kansas and call somebody a redneck and see if they don't take offense to it. You are trying to be inflammatory and demeaning to a group of people when you use that word, AND YOU KNOW IT. Just like I would be doing if I used the word I mentioned.

They call themselves redneck like blacks call eachother brother.

Let me guess, it depends on the context and who's using it? :wink:

[maskedJR]

AnOpenMind wrote: JoeTrumps wrote: AnOpenMind wrote: F****t- in homophobic usage, a slang term of abuse denoting (in general) a gay man, but connoting (in particular) the gender image of male wimpiness or effeminacy.

redneck-A poor white person in the southern or midwestern states.

Do you not see how your term is slightly more perjorative. Just a little? :!oops:

are you kidding me?

go to Kansas and call somebody a redneck and see if they don't take offense to it. You are trying to be inflammatory and demeaning to a group of people when you use that word, AND YOU KNOW IT. Just like I would be doing if I used the word I mentioned.
HAHAHAHA, you forget that I live south of Atlanta, Joe. There are kids here that are proud to be called Rednecks, and take no offence at all. But I'd really like you to show me any gay person that would want you to call them a F****t. And by the way, Joe, a bigot is Quote: A prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own. Sounds more like you.

As a person from Kansas, I do not appreciate being called redneck or ignorant. Can you not use a little intelligence yourself, and start a thread that is not so derogatory?

[AnOpenMind]

maskedJR wrote:
As a person from Kansas, I do not appreciate being called redneck or ignorant.
Then you differ from over 10 people at my school and also my cousin.

[wookeyeh]

Hey, OpenMind, you need either a new name or an attitude adjustment. If MaskedJR, who is in fact from Kansas, doesn't appreciate being called a redneck, then don't justify called him (and several million other people) that based on how your cousin feels about it. That this thread, like so many others, has been so far only about name-calling is no surprise. Although the name of this thread was an incredibly poor choice, perhaps an intelligent discussion could yet stem from it.

I think what has happened to this Limon guy is wrong. Although I have a personal problem with a 14-year-old and an 18-year-old engaging in sex acts, I don't think it should be any different for gays than for straights, because that's a double standard. And beyond that, if they were both living in a group home, then I think it you could argue that it's the state's fault for allowing it to happen. Besides the exact case in question, I think it's not Kansas' business if a couple of teenagers want to have sex or not. Even though this is a non-ordinary situation, the state's business in the matter is to provide proper sex education for kids, not to send them to prison for not being able to control their hormones, after telling them "don't have sex" and not providing proper knowledge on the issue.

[Canada_Rocks]

wscreate wrote: Redneck Kansas? Nice racist generalization of the people there you BIGOT.

Woot woot, stop the "inpropper use of words" train....

Rednecks aren't a race.

[Canada_Rocks]

I am glad to see the law treating people equaly. Afterall, sex with an underaged person is sex with an underaged person, no matter race, creed or sexual orientation.

[JoeTrumps]

maskedJR wrote: AnOpenMind wrote: JoeTrumps wrote: AnOpenMind wrote: F****t- in homophobic usage, a slang term of abuse denoting (in general) a gay man, but connoting (in particular) the gender image of male wimpiness or effeminacy.

redneck-A poor white person in the southern or midwestern states.

Do you not see how your term is slightly more perjorative. Just a little? :!oops:

are you kidding me?

go to Kansas and call somebody a redneck and see if they don't take offense to it. You are trying to be inflammatory and demeaning to a group of people when you use that word, AND YOU KNOW IT. Just like I would be doing if I used the word I mentioned.
HAHAHAHA, you forget that I live south of Atlanta, Joe. There are kids here that are proud to be called Rednecks, and take no offence at all. But I'd really like you to show me any gay person that would want you to call them a F****t. And by the way, Joe, a bigot is Quote: A prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own. Sounds more like you.

As a person from Kansas, I do not appreciate being called redneck or ignorant. Can you not use a little intelligence yourself, and start a thread that is not so derogatory?

Thats what people in your own party think of you.
You are BENEATH them.

wake up

[Canada_Rocks]

maskedJR wrote: AnOpenMind wrote: JoeTrumps wrote: AnOpenMind wrote: F****t- in homophobic usage, a slang term of abuse denoting (in general) a gay man, but connoting (in particular) the gender image of male wimpiness or effeminacy.

redneck-A poor white person in the southern or midwestern states.

Do you not see how your term is slightly more perjorative. Just a little? :!oops:

are you kidding me?

go to Kansas and call somebody a redneck and see if they don't take offense to it. You are trying to be inflammatory and demeaning to a group of people when you use that word, AND YOU KNOW IT. Just like I would be doing if I used the word I mentioned.
HAHAHAHA, you forget that I live south of Atlanta, Joe. There are kids here that are proud to be called Rednecks, and take no offence at all. But I'd really like you to show me any gay person that would want you to call them a F****t. And by the way, Joe, a bigot is Quote: A prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own. Sounds more like you.

As a person from Kansas, I do not appreciate being called redneck or ignorant. Can you not use a little intelligence yourself, and start a thread that is not so derogatory?

How is this thread derogatory? Perhaps his wording was a bit harsh but i'd hardly call the topic of this thread derogatory. it is quite an important step for equality.

[Tono]

Canada_rocks wrote: Rednecks aren't a race.

Neither are any of the other words used to degrade someone based on race. Redneck is the white equivalent of ni@@er.

As far as the meat of the topic goes, I'm glad cooler minds have prevailed. This was a good ruling.

[JoeTrumps]

Canada_rocks wrote: maskedJR wrote: AnOpenMind wrote: JoeTrumps wrote: AnOpenMind wrote: F****t- in homophobic usage, a slang term of abuse denoting (in general) a gay man, but connoting (in particular) the gender image of male wimpiness or effeminacy.

redneck-A poor white person in the southern or midwestern states.

Do you not see how your term is slightly more perjorative. Just a little? :!oops:

are you kidding me?

go to Kansas and call somebody a redneck and see if they don't take offense to it. You are trying to be inflammatory and demeaning to a group of people when you use that word, AND YOU KNOW IT. Just like I would be doing if I used the word I mentioned.
HAHAHAHA, you forget that I live south of Atlanta, Joe. There are kids here that are proud to be called Rednecks, and take no offence at all. But I'd really like you to show me any gay person that would want you to call them a F****t. And by the way, Joe, a bigot is Quote: A prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own. Sounds more like you.

As a person from Kansas, I do not appreciate being called redneck or ignorant. Can you not use a little intelligence yourself, and start a thread that is not so derogatory?

How is this thread derogatory? Perhaps his wording was a bit harsh but i'd hardly call the topic of this thread derogatory. it is quite an important step for equality.

let me go start a Redneck Canada thread and watch you piss your pants over it.

[makenna]

JoeTrumps wrote: 2000 dead soldiers in Iraq(many of them the same rednecks you despise so much), and this is the crap you worry yourself with?

way to prioritize. :roll: yea some open mind? :lol:

[Canada_Rocks]

JoeTrumps wrote: Canada_rocks wrote: maskedJR wrote: AnOpenMind wrote: JoeTrumps wrote: AnOpenMind wrote: F****t- in homophobic usage, a slang term of abuse denoting (in general) a gay man, but connoting (in particular) the gender image of male wimpiness or effeminacy.

redneck-A poor white person in the southern or midwestern states.

Do you not see how your term is slightly more perjorative. Just a little? :!oops:

are you kidding me?

go to Kansas and call somebody a redneck and see if they don't take offense to it. You are trying to be inflammatory and demeaning to a group of people when you use that word, AND YOU KNOW IT. Just like I would be doing if I used the word I mentioned.
HAHAHAHA, you forget that I live south of Atlanta, Joe. There are kids here that are proud to be called Rednecks, and take no offence at all. But I'd really like you to show me any gay person that would want you to call them a F****t. And by the way, Joe, a bigot is Quote: A prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own. Sounds more like you.

As a person from Kansas, I do not appreciate being called redneck or ignorant. Can you not use a little intelligence yourself, and start a thread that is not so derogatory?

How is this thread derogatory? Perhaps his wording was a bit harsh but i'd hardly call the topic of this thread derogatory. it is quite an important step for equality.

let me go start a Redneck Canada thread and watch you piss your pants over it.

You would probably start a "Socialist Canada" or "Baby Seal Murderin' Canada" thread.

Like I said, the subject is a good one, his wording could have been toned down.

[Bag of Rags]

AnOpenMind wrote: maskedJR wrote:
As a person from Kansas, I do not appreciate being called redneck or ignorant.
Then you differ from over 10 people at my school and also my cousin.

Perhaps your family and friends are not too bright themselves. :!oops:

[maskedJR]

JoeTrumps wrote: maskedJR wrote: AnOpenMind wrote: JoeTrumps wrote: AnOpenMind wrote: F****t- in homophobic usage, a slang term of abuse denoting (in general) a gay man, but connoting (in particular) the gender image of male wimpiness or effeminacy.

redneck-A poor white person in the southern or midwestern states.

Do you not see how your term is slightly more perjorative. Just a little? :!oops:

are you kidding me?

go to Kansas and call somebody a redneck and see if they don't take offense to it. You are trying to be inflammatory and demeaning to a group of people when you use that word, AND YOU KNOW IT. Just like I would be doing if I used the word I mentioned.
HAHAHAHA, you forget that I live south of Atlanta, Joe. There are kids here that are proud to be called Rednecks, and take no offence at all. But I'd really like you to show me any gay person that would want you to call them a F****t. And by the way, Joe, a bigot is Quote: A prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own. Sounds more like you.

As a person from Kansas, I do not appreciate being called redneck or ignorant. Can you not use a little intelligence yourself, and start a thread that is not so derogatory?

Thats what people in your own party think of you.
You are BENEATH them.

wake up

Umm, what are you talking about Joe? People of my own party? I didn't realize he was a Libertarian.

[DMwsuguy]

JoeTrumps wrote: AnOpenMind wrote: F****t- in homophobic usage, a slang term of abuse denoting (in general) a gay man, but connoting (in particular) the gender image of male wimpiness or effeminacy.

redneck-A poor white person in the southern or midwestern states.

Do you not see how your term is slightly more perjorative. Just a little? :!oops:

are you kidding me?

go to Kansas and call somebody a redneck and see if they don't take offense to it. You are trying to be inflammatory and demeaning to a group of people when you use that word, AND YOU KNOW IT. Just like I would be doing if I used the word I mentioned.

Strange Joe.....when I used that argument in a similar discussion with regards to "towelheads", I believe your response was something along the lines of "I don't give a s**t what they think, it's not derogatory." So why does it work when you use it?

That's the first example of your hypocrisy.
The second is you start several threads about gays, then when a similar one is opened but with an opposing view to yours, it is all of a sudden irrelevant.

Why are you so perpetually full of s**t Joe?

[Canada_Rocks]

maskedJR wrote: JoeTrumps wrote: maskedJR wrote: AnOpenMind wrote: JoeTrumps wrote: AnOpenMind wrote: F****t- in homophobic usage, a slang term of abuse denoting (in general) a gay man, but connoting (in particular) the gender image of male wimpiness or effeminacy.

redneck-A poor white person in the southern or midwestern states.

Do you not see how your term is slightly more perjorative. Just a little? :!oops:

are you kidding me?

go to Kansas and call somebody a redneck and see if they don't take offense to it. You are trying to be inflammatory and demeaning to a group of people when you use that word, AND YOU KNOW IT. Just like I would be doing if I used the word I mentioned.
HAHAHAHA, you forget that I live south of Atlanta, Joe. There are kids here that are proud to be called Rednecks, and take no offence at all. But I'd really like you to show me any gay person that would want you to call them a F****t. And by the way, Joe, a bigot is Quote: A prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own. Sounds more like you.

As a person from Kansas, I do not appreciate being called redneck or ignorant. Can you not use a little intelligence yourself, and start a thread that is not so derogatory?

Thats what people in your own party think of you.
You are BENEATH them.

wake up

Umm, what are you talking about Joe? People of my own party? I didn't realize he was a Libertarian.

People from Kansas are cool. Its those dame people from Crawford I can't stand :wink:

[disease]

I wouldn't go so far as to call Kansas "redneck", but it certainly personifies the dumbing down of America...

From "What's the Matter with Kansas" by Thomas Frank:

Not long ago, Kansas would have responded to the current situation by making the bastards pay. This would have been a political certainty, as predictable as what happens when you touch a match to a puddle of gasoline. When business screwed the farmers and the workers - when it implemented monopoly strategies invasive beyond the Populists' furthest imaginings -- when it ripped off shareholders and casually tossed thousands out of work -- you could be damned sure about what would follow.

Not these days. Out here the gravity of discontent pulls in only one direction: to the right, to the right, further to the right. Strip today's Kansans of their job security, and they head out to become registered Republicans. Push them off their land, and next thing you know they're protesting in front of abortion clinics. Squander their life savings on manicures for the CEO, and there's a good chance they'll join the John Birch Society. But ask them about the remedies their ancestors proposed (unions, antitrust, public ownership), and you might as well be referring to the days when knighthood was in flower.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What%27s_the_Matter_with_Kansas

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[TheGirlNextDoor]

AnOpenMind wrote: When rightwingers stop generalizing California, New York, and Boston, then I'll stop generalizing the midwest and the south. (which, by the way, I can generalize because I live in Atlanta.) 8)

As a Kansan, I find your post to be quite inflammatory and not worth the bandwidth that it is using.

Nothing like generalizing an entire state of people and assuming that they are all "poor white people" and that we all are bigots.

Your excuse and/or skewed reasoning that "When rightwingers stop generalizing CA, NY and Boston.. then you'll stop........." is what I would expect to hear from someone in grade school.

Not an adult.

[Bag of Rags]

Canada_rocks wrote: wscreate wrote: Redneck Kansas? Nice racist generalization of the people there you BIGOT.

Woot woot, stop the "inpropper use of words" train....

Rednecks aren't a race.

Neither are homosexuals.