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[Lord Hargreaves]

Quote: BARONESS Thatcher has invited only two of the five Conservative Party leadership candidates to her 80th birthday party this week, in the clearest indication of who she wants to succeed Michael Howard.

David Davis and Liam Fox, the flag-bearers of the Tory right, will join the Queen, the Duke of Edinburgh and 650 other guests on Thursday at the Mandarin Oriental Hotel in Hyde Park to celebrate this milestone for Britain’s first woman Prime Minister. But there is no invitation for David Cameron, the new bookmakers’ favourite for the leadership, who never mentioned Lady Thatcher in his conference speech, or Kenneth Clarke and Sir Malcolm Rifkind, who both served in her Cabinet.

Appearance at the party will provide an opportunity to cement leadership credentials before the MPs’ first vote on October 18. The final two candidates will be voted on by 300,000 Tory members, with the result declared on December 6. BARONESS Thatcher has invited only two of the five Conservative Party leadership candidates to her 80th birthday party this week, in the clearest indication of who she wants to succeed Michael Howard.

David Davis and Liam Fox, the flag-bearers of the Tory right, will join the Queen, the Duke of Edinburgh and 650 other guests on Thursday at the Mandarin Oriental Hotel in Hyde Park to celebrate this milestone for Britain’s first woman Prime Minister. But there is no invitation for David Cameron, the new bookmakers’ favourite for the leadership, who never mentioned Lady Thatcher in his conference speech, or Kenneth Clarke and Sir Malcolm Rifkind, who both served in her Cabinet.

Appearance at the party will provide an opportunity to cement leadership credentials before the MPs’ first vote on October 18. The final two candidates will be voted on by 300,000 Tory members, with the result declared on December 6.

The Times


Even if you hate her politics, you've got to love the cut-the-crap, no-nonsense way she goes about it :lol:

:flwr: Happy Birthday Maggie

[Guest]

Why won't she just ....DIE!!!?
:1evil:

[anselfir]

Anonymous wrote: Why won't she just ....DIE!!!?
:1evil: hmm, guest posting?

[Snow Patrol]

Considering the kind of love and endearment Thatcher commands among the general electorate, this could be the touch of death for both Davis and Fox. :lol:

[Robin Hood]

Quote: Considering the kind of love and endearment Thatcher commands among the general electorate, this could be the touch of death for both Davis and Fox.

Yeah the three elections that she won prove that!

[Snow Patrol]

Reason wrote: Quote: Considering the kind of love and endearment Thatcher commands among the general electorate, this could be the touch of death for both Davis and Fox.

Yeah the three elections that she won prove that!
In terms of today, not just under 20 years ago. Besides it was intended to be a humorous comment.

[Robin Hood]

Quote: In terms of today, not just under 20 years ago. Besides it was intended to be a humorous comment.

i have found that a suprising number of people, the ones who disliked her, have re-evaluated her legacy and have a more positive view of it. After all before her the IMF had to rescue the UK, whilst the mainland continent was doing pretty well, now it looks like a few of the continental countries might need saving.

[Achilles The Myrmidon]

Lord Hargreaves wrote: Quote: BARONESS Thatcher has invited only two of the five Conservative Party leadership candidates to her 80th birthday party this week, in the clearest indication of who she wants to succeed Michael Howard.

David Davis and Liam Fox, the flag-bearers of the Tory right, will join the Queen, the Duke of Edinburgh and 650 other guests on Thursday at the Mandarin Oriental Hotel in Hyde Park to celebrate this milestone for Britain’s first woman Prime Minister. But there is no invitation for David Cameron, the new bookmakers’ favourite for the leadership, who never mentioned Lady Thatcher in his conference speech, or Kenneth Clarke and Sir Malcolm Rifkind, who both served in her Cabinet.

Appearance at the party will provide an opportunity to cement leadership credentials before the MPs’ first vote on October 18. The final two candidates will be voted on by 300,000 Tory members, with the result declared on December 6. BARONESS Thatcher has invited only two of the five Conservative Party leadership candidates to her 80th birthday party this week, in the clearest indication of who she wants to succeed Michael Howard.

David Davis and Liam Fox, the flag-bearers of the Tory right, will join the Queen, the Duke of Edinburgh and 650 other guests on Thursday at the Mandarin Oriental Hotel in Hyde Park to celebrate this milestone for Britain’s first woman Prime Minister. But there is no invitation for David Cameron, the new bookmakers’ favourite for the leadership, who never mentioned Lady Thatcher in his conference speech, or Kenneth Clarke and Sir Malcolm Rifkind, who both served in her Cabinet.

Appearance at the party will provide an opportunity to cement leadership credentials before the MPs’ first vote on October 18. The final two candidates will be voted on by 300,000 Tory members, with the result declared on December 6.

The Times


Even if you hate her politics, you've got to love the cut-the-crap, no-nonsense way she goes about it :lol:

:flwr: Happy Birthday Maggie Hey ,Thatcher and i have birthday's on the same day. :-D October 13th :P

[The Councillor]

Well, when I first got an interest in politics when I was 11, the Poll Tax riots were in full swing and started symathising with the LibDems but when Mrs T resigned I came to support the Tories exactly because of her legacy, her policies and what she did for Britain.

But these wet flannels that keep harking back to Thatcher for the future, really are not with it. As Mazzinni said 'the world's advancing, advance with it'. She's been out of power for FIFTEEN YEARS now!

[Snow Patrol]

Reason wrote: Quote: In terms of today, not just under 20 years ago. Besides it was intended to be a humorous comment.

i have found that a suprising number of people, the ones who disliked her, have re-evaluated her legacy and have a more positive view of it. After all before her the IMF had to rescue the UK, whilst the mainland continent was doing pretty well, now it looks like a few of the continental countries might need saving.
It's all relative on who you talk to, we loved the poll tax experiment up here.

[Robin Hood]

Quote: It's all relative on who you talk to, we loved the poll tax experiment up here.

Funny how a tax cutting prime minister is most disliked for a tax; especially since it's the 'tax everything that moves' left that's doing the complaining. I don't like the poll tax, but I don't like any taxes.

[thefranzkafkafront]

The Councillor wrote: Well, when I first got an interest in politics when I was 11, the Poll Tax riots were in full swing and started symathising with the LibDems but when Mrs T resigned I came to support the Tories exactly because of her legacy, her policies and what she did for Britain.

But these wet flannels that keep harking back to Thatcher for the future, really are not with it. As Mazzinni said 'the world's advancing, advance with it'. She's been out of power for FIFTEEN YEARS now!

What did thatcher do for britian excalty, oh yeah send all our heavy industries to s**t.
Good job.

[Robin Hood]

Quote: What did thatcher do for britian excalty, oh yeah send all our heavy industries to s**t.
Good job.

Look at Britain pre-Thatcher (economic basketcase), and Italy at the same time (doing well), then look at Britain post Thatcher (doing very well) and Italy at the same time (economic basketcase).

People really forget that Britain was actually, really and truly heading for third world status before Thatcher.

[Snow Patrol]

Reason wrote: Quote: It's all relative on who you talk to, we loved the poll tax experiment up here.

Funny how a tax cutting prime minister is most disliked for a tax; especially since it's the 'tax everything that moves' left that's doing the complaining. I don't like the poll tax, but I don't like any taxes.
And what? Just because i'm left wing i'm suddenly not allowed to dislike taxes?

Imagine a left-winger complaining about taxes that placed an unfair burden on the poor, how ironic.

[Robin Hood]

Quote: Imagine a left-winger complaining about taxes that placed an unfair burden on the poor, how ironic.

I was just saying that it was quite amuzing, having a radical left winger hate someone for a tax. I completely understand the feeling.

[Snow Patrol]

Reason wrote: Quote: Imagine a left-winger complaining about taxes that placed an unfair burden on the poor, how ironic.

I was just saying that it was quite amuzing, having a radical left winger hate someone for a tax. I completely understand the feeling.
Ah, fair enough dude, but as i've said on a number of occasions before, i neither hate Margaret Thatcher (i hate no bugger) nor am i realistically that much of a radical in practical terms (social democrat with certain liberal leanings).

[HarmonyOnTheRight]

Thatcher closed the industries!!!! She did it, she did! My a*se did she.

She took the over-confident bull by the horns and gave it the shaking of its life. Post-war industries in the Uk funny enough had been in terminal decline since 1945, and funny enough, a similar sitution was the case after 1918.

What was realised was that if we want to keep prosperity on-going for longer we need to retrain and re-equip our manual skilled workers with a set of interchangeable skills for future light industries and open up the services economy, in which Britain now depends for its wealth.

The politicised unions wanted to up wages, up inflation and bring down the government in a massive political fight they had waged since the 1960s, Thatcher said, no ransom this time.

She did the decent thing

[JDnCoke]

HarmonyOnTheRight wrote: Thatcher closed the industries!!!! She did it, she did! My a*se did she.

She took the over-confident bull by the horns and gave it the shaking of its life. Post-war industries in the Uk funny enough had been in terminal decline since 1945, and funny enough, a similar sitution was the case after 1918.

What was realised was that if we want to keep prosperity on-going for longer we need to retrain and re-equip our manual skilled workers with a set of interchangeable skills for future light industries and open up the services economy, in which Britain now depends for its wealth.

The politicised unions wanted to up wages, up inflation and bring down the government in a massive political fight they had waged since the 1960s, Thatcher said, no ransom this time.

She did the decent thing

British heavy industries had actually been in decline since 1900, damn Americans and Germans were just better at it than us. Any economist'll know what structural problems we had. But our historical power, and huge empire just dragged out the process that mainland Europe experienced in the 50s.

To be honest, even though I'm left-of-centre I think Thatcher did a bloody brilliant job. Kudos to her.