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wilson
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| Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 10:57 pm Post subject: National Party |
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The official Manifesto of the Political Crossfire National Party, published October 9, 2005:
Abortion- Murder is murder, even when it is a medical procedure. Only in the case of rape or incest will it be allowed.
Defense-The Armed Forces will be as powerful as possible. They will never serve under any foreign command and we will have no military bases in foreign countries.
Gambling- Gambling promotes crime and immorality. There will be no government support of it.
Gun Control- No gun control, except for felons.
Health Care- Fully privatized.
Immigration- No immigration from nondeveloped countries.
Pornography- Immoral and degrading. It shall be illegal.
Punishment- Punishment over rehabilitation. Do the crime, do the time. Capital punishment will be legal.
Welfare- Only a safety net for the poorest of the poor. The best welfare is getting a job. Those on welfare must get a job withing 12 months or have their checks continued.
Illegal Drugs- No illegal drugs.
Education- Money recieved for education shall be redistributed in the form of vouchers to allow parents to choice private schools for their children.
Tariffs and Trade- Our workers first. We will join no free trade agreements or sacrifice soverignty in the name of trade.
Taxes- Sales tax only.
Terrorism and Personal Liberty- Religious and racial profiling is legal and encouraged. No government laws prohibiting liberty of law abiding citizens.
Energy- Promoted alternative energy by giving tax cuts to car companies who sell large amounts of hydrogen cars.
Environment- Protect all unnecessary destruction of environment. Creation of national forests and landmarks.
Supranational organizations- We shall belong to no supranational organizations or permanent military alliances.
Foreign Aid- We will provide no financial, military, or economic aid to any foreign country or supranational organizations.
Gay Marriage- No gay marriages or civil unions shall be recognized.
Free Entreprise- The government shall make no law telling business who they can and cannot hire and fire.
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Globalization is invetible in 2005 just like socialism was invetible in 1917. We seek a fully independent country that protects its own soverignty while not treading on that of others. We will always place the interest of our workers over those of foreign workers. We will always place the interest of our soldiers over those of foreign soldiers. We will always place the interest of our companies over those of multi national corporations.
The biggest cleavages of our times are race and religion in close quaters. As a Christian, I am called by Jesus to be a peacemaker, and sometimes, seperation is the only solution for peace. Join me, and fight for the only type of peace that can last, peace among equal, independent nations.
-Sam Wilson
Chairman of the Political Crossfire National Party |
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PricklySponge
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| Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:40 am Post subject: |
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| well this party s*cks |
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Kumar
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Pornography- Immoral and degrading. It shall be illegal.
That's where you lost me. |
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Kumar
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| Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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On the other hand, if the position was:
Quote: Pornography- Immoral and degrading. It shall be mandatory.
Then sign me up! |
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Wolverine
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| Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't agree with the national party.... |
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Stygma
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| Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: Taxes- Sales tax only.
Quote: Energy- Promoted alternative energy by giving tax cuts to car companies who sell large amounts of hydrogen cars.
So, does "sales tax only" apply only to private citizens? Or do you also support corporate taxes? |
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Snow Patrol
Joined: 30 May 2005
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Location: Glasgow
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| Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Apart from the environmental points there's nothing i agree with here. |
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wilson
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| Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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Stygma wrote: Quote: Taxes- Sales tax only.
Quote: Energy- Promoted alternative energy by giving tax cuts to car companies who sell large amounts of hydrogen cars.
So, does "sales tax only" apply only to private citizens? Or do you also support corporate taxes?
Sales taxes shall apply to all entities, business and personal. The tax cuts would be given to car companies who can produce and sell efficent hydrogen cars. |
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daxuesheng
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| Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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| i know some people that like to run around in white sheets at night that would be very interested in your party |
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wilson
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| Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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daxuesheng wrote: i know some people that like to run around in white sheets at night that would be very interested in your party
Yes a rare beacon of truth. When things don't go your way, blame the white man! Its no problem, everyone else is doing it. |
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Stygma
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wilson wrote: daxuesheng wrote: i know some people that like to run around in white sheets at night that would be very interested in your party
Yes a rare beacon of truth. When things don't go your way, blame the white man! Its no problem, everyone else is doing it.
Yeah, it's so hard to be a white man in america. :roll: |
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Red Flag
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| Oh my friend.. you have gotten you're parties all mixed up! Here let me help you.. what you're looking for is the www.americanfascistparty.com :lol: |
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Ben_Huh
Joined: 27 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:53 am Post subject: Re: National Party |
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wilson wrote: The official Manifesto of the Political Crossfire National Party, published October 9, 2005:
Abortion- Murder is murder, even when it is a medical procedure. Only in the case of rape or incest will it be allowed.
I agree, but I would include the option of abortion in cases where the life of the mother is threatened....
Quote: Defense-The Armed Forces will be as powerful as possible. They will never serve under any foreign command and we will have no military bases in foreign countries.
50/50 on this one; I agree that the UN can shove it, but having military bases in other nations is vital to executing military operations....
Quote: Gambling- Gambling promotes crime and immorality. There will be no government support of it.
Booooooo!
Quote: Gun Control- No gun control, except for felons.
What kind of gun control for felons?
Quote: Health Care- Fully privatized.
I totally agree.....
Quote: Immigration- No immigration from nondeveloped countries.
So only people from certain countries can come? Huh?
Quote: Pornography- Immoral and degrading. It shall be illegal.
Even bigger and louder Boooooo!
Quote: Punishment- Punishment over rehabilitation. Do the crime, do the time. Capital punishment will be legal.
I beleive in rehabbing those who can concievably be rehabbed; they should still however do the appropriated time for their crimes......
Quote: Welfare- Only a safety net for the poorest of the poor. The best welfare is getting a job. Those on welfare must get a job withing 12 months or have their checks DIScontinued.
My plan is to work schooling and job programs in with the cash. Just sending them cash does nothing; Lower what they get with the check, and in turn use the assets to set up programs that they can use in order to be a more productive member of society.....
Quote: Illegal Drugs- No illegal drugs.
I don't mind marijuana, but I agree that most drugs should be illegal.....
Quote: Education- Money recieved for education shall be redistributed in the form of vouchers to allow parents to choice private schools for their children.
I agree........
Quote: Tariffs and Trade- Our workers first. We will join no free trade agreements or sacrifice soverignty in the name of trade.
I agree.....
Quote: Taxes- Sales tax only.
I agree.....
Quote: Terrorism and Personal Liberty- Religious and racial profiling is legal and encouraged. No government laws prohibiting liberty of law abiding citizens.
50/50.
Quote: Energy- Promoted alternative energy by giving tax cuts to car companies who sell large amounts of hydrogen cars.
Ever try to drive a hybrid Honda in 12 inches of snow? Didn't think so......
Quote: Environment- Protect all unnecessary destruction of environment. Creation of national forests and landmarks.
I agree.....
Quote: Supranational organizations- We shall belong to no supranational organizations or permanent military alliances.
I agree.....
Quote: Foreign Aid- We will provide no financial, military, or economic aid to any foreign country or supranational organizations.
50/50.....
Quote: Gay Marriage- No gay marriages or civil unions shall be recognized.
Why? Love is love is it not? Leave it to the churches to determine who they will or will not marry......
Quote: Free Entreprise- The government shall make no law telling business who they can and cannot hire and fire.
I agree.....
I would not vote for this party; I need my Porn...... |
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wilson
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| Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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Stygma wrote: Yeah, it's so hard to be a white man in america. :roll:
The only majority that is actively discriminated against in their own country. |
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Chris29
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wilson wrote: Stygma wrote: Yeah, it's so hard to be a white man in america. :roll:
The only majority that is actively discriminated against in their own country.
lol thats brilliant!
and even better you plan to offset this "discrimination" by encouraging discrimination against other groups.
tell me wilson how exactly are white men discriminated against. :roll:
p.s. there is only one majority racial group in any country :lol: |
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Chris29
Joined: 13 Jul 2004
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Location: Calgary, Canada
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| Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 11:11 am Post subject: Re: National Party |
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wilson wrote: The official Manifesto of the Political Crossfire National Party, published October 9, 2005:
is this party just an offshoot of the falconist party or the fascist party. Either way you guys will have enough time garnering fascist supporters as it is without having to compete against each other.
Quote: Abortion- Murder is murder, even when it is a medical procedure. Only in the case of rape or incest will it be allowed.
This is quite possibly the only "reasonable" policy you have.
Quote: Defense-The Armed Forces will be as powerful as possible. They will never serve under any foreign command and we will have no military bases in foreign countries.
Yup the armed forces are not powerful enough, we must have full conscription and laser that can shoot around corners. As dictator err I mean president I will not stop until we have lasers that can shoot around corners.
Quote: Gambling- Gambling promotes crime and immorality. There will be no government support of it.
as opposed to the loads of funding it receives now?? I am assuming (judging from your other extremist policies) that you mean abolishing gambling. Clearly your reason for this is that you believe you can legislate morality.
Quote: Gun Control- No gun control, except for felons.
so where exactly does the line stop as to what a private citizen can and can not own. Should I be able to own a nuclear device, or a tank or a cluster of napalm bombs???
Quote: Health Care- Fully privatized.
as opposed to what it is now in the US??? or are you suggesting that when someone who cant afford healthcare comes in with a gun wound that you send them back out and tell them to get a job first??
Quote: Immigration- No immigration from nondeveloped countries.
Oh ya those people from developing countries are all out to get the white males of America. They are here to steal their jobs, steal their women and steal their land. Wait I know what will fix it - a tank, ya a tank will keep them from stealing my stuff!
Quote: Pornography- Immoral and degrading. It shall be illegal.
again legislating morality. That in and of itself is immoral.
Quote: Punishment- Punishment over rehabilitation. Do the crime, do the time. Capital punishment will be legal.
and I suppose this will lower the crime rate?? unless you propose full life sentences for all criminals you will eventually have to release them. People with rehabilitation are far less likely to recommit offenses then those without. Also criminals still do the time with rehabilitation so rednecks can sleep easily knowing that someone is getting punished. As for Capital Punishment what if you end up wring about a case - you can't turn back. Although judging by your previous policies your okay with giving a government entity that kind of power.
Quote: Welfare- Only a safety net for the poorest of the poor. The best welfare is getting a job. Those on welfare must get a job withing 12 months or have their checks continued.
it sounded kind of reasonable for a second and then you said that people on welfare have two options. 1) get a job within 1 year or 2)continue receiving checks???
I am assuming that you meant they would have their checks discountinued after 1 year if they didn't have a job, if so I then ask "why would you be giving welfare to people who already have a job?"
Quote: Illegal Drugs- No illegal drugs.
because clearly that is working so succesful right now
Quote: Education- Money recieved for education shall be redistributed in the form of vouchers to allow parents to choice private schools for their children.
so the money that the government gets for public education from taxes will then be redistributed to allow parents to choose private schools if they wish??
How the hell is the public system supposed to have any money for those wishing to stay in?
It would make more sense (albeit still an idiotic policy) to rather say all education is privatized
Quote: Tariffs and Trade- Our workers first. We will join no free trade agreements or sacrifice soverignty in the name of trade.
yup this one sure will work well. Lets impose tariffs to protect our workers. Lets protect industries that cannot remain competitive and see where they end up 10 years down the road. so for all of the "gains" you receive from these tariffs how do you plan to offset the severe economic costs of your tariffs?
Quote: Taxes- Sales tax only.
you do realize that the number one consumer is the government?
Quote: Terrorism and Personal Liberty- Religious and racial profiling is legal and encouraged. No government laws prohibiting liberty of law abiding citizens.
and what racial and religious profiling would this be. Why should some arab be discriminated against because you have a chronic fear of them?? Better yet lets just legalize being a race other then white. Different words - same policy.
Quote: Energy- Promoted alternative energy by giving tax cuts to car companies who sell large amounts of hydrogen cars.
how do you give a tax cut when all you have is sales tax :lol:
Quote: Environment- Protect all unnecessary destruction of environment. Creation of national forests and landmarks.
and you plan on doing this how?? what defines unnecessary destruction?
Quote: Supranational organizations- We shall belong to no supranational organizations or permanent military alliances.
probably because they are ruled by non-white, non-christian people right?
Quote: Foreign Aid- We will provide no financial, military, or economic aid to any foreign country or supranational organizations.
what exactly is the difference between financial aid and economic aid???
Quote: Gay Marriage- No gay marriages or civil unions shall be recognized.
because just like muslims we must also criminalize homosexual behavior
Quote: Free Entreprise- The government shall make no law telling business who they can and cannot hire and fire.
so if a boss sexually harasses his employee what should happen then.
Quote: Globalization is invetible in 2005 just like socialism was invetible in 1917. We seek a fully independent country that protects its own soverignty while not treading on that of others. We will always place the interest of our workers over those of foreign workers. We will always place the interest of our soldiers over those of foreign soldiers. We will always place the interest of our companies over those of multi national corporations.
The biggest cleavages of our times are race and religion in close quaters. As a Christian, I am called by Jesus to be a peacemaker, and sometimes, seperation is the only solution for peace. Join me, and fight for the only type of peace that can last, peace among equal, independent nations.
-Sam Wilson
Chairman of the Political Crossfire National Party
yup globalization is just as if not more evil then socialism. In fact they are essentially the same thing.
Also as a member of the KKK err I mean the fascist party errr I mean.... oh right the Political Crossfire National Party we are worried about the interaction of good white christian women with the evil arabs, asians and black men. [/quote] |
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daxuesheng
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Chris29 wrote: wilson wrote: Stygma wrote: Yeah, it's so hard to be a white man in america. :roll:
The only majority that is actively discriminated against in their own country.
lol thats brilliant!
and even better you plan to offset this "discrimination" by encouraging discrimination against other groups.
tell me wilson how exactly are white men discriminated against. :roll:
p.s. there is only one majority racial group in any country :lol:
shhh dont break it to him yet, his mind wont be able to take it |
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Wolverine
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Quote: Abortion- Murder is murder, even when it is a medical procedure. Only in the case of rape or incest will it be allowed.
Its the parents choice.
Quote: Defense-The Armed Forces will be as powerful as possible. They will never serve under any foreign command and we will have no military bases in foreign countries.
I agree to an extent....
Quote: Gambling- Gambling promotes crime and immorality. There will be no government support of it.
Sorry, but its Bubba's money not yours. His business and none of yours.
Quote: Gun Control- No gun control, except for felons.
I agree.
Quote: Health Care- Fully privatized.
I agree.
Quote: Immigration- No immigration from nondeveloped countries.
As long as immigrates come here legally, I don't' care. We should promote immigration.
Quote: Pornography- Immoral and degrading. It shall be illegal.
If people want to be immoral, thats their business, and none of yours.
Quote: Punishment- Punishment over rehabilitation. Do the crime, do the time. Capital punishment will be legal.
I agree.
Quote: Welfare- Only a safety net for the poorest of the poor. The best welfare is getting a job. Those on welfare must get a job withing 12 months or have their checks continued.
No. There should be no welfare.
Quote: Illegal Drugs- No illegal drugs.
If people want ot do drugs, let them. Its not your life, its theirs.
Quote: Education- Money recieved for education shall be redistributed in the form of vouchers to allow parents to choice private schools for their children.
Public education shall be dissolved. Pay your own way. No taxes.
Quote: Taxes- Sales tax only.
I agree.
Quote: Terrorism and Personal Liberty- Religious and racial profiling is legal and encouraged. No government laws prohibiting liberty of law abiding citizens.
No. The Bill of Rights guarantees citizens freedom from these types of things.
Quote: Environment- Protect all unnecessary destruction of environment. Creation of national forests and landmarks.
Being a geo-Libertarian, I agree.
Quote: Supranational organizations- We shall belong to no supranational organizations or permanent military alliances.
I disagree.
Quote: Foreign Aid- We will provide no financial, military, or economic aid to any foreign country or supranational organizations.
I agree with the foreign aid part.
Quote: Gay Marriage- No gay marriages or civil unions shall be recognized.
Why would you care who someone marry's? Its none of the governments business.
Quote: Free Entreprise- The government shall make no law telling business who they can and cannot hire and fire.
Agreed. |
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Comrade Guihermo
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| Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:55 pm Post subject: Re: National Party |
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wilson wrote: The official Manifesto of the Political Crossfire National Party, published October 9, 2005:
Abortion- Murder is murder, even when it is a medical procedure. Only in the case of rape or incest will it be allowed.
Defense-The Armed Forces will be as powerful as possible. They will never serve under any foreign command and we will have no military bases in foreign countries.
Gambling- Gambling promotes crime and immorality. There will be no government support of it.
Gun Control- No gun control, except for felons.
Health Care- Fully privatized.
Immigration- No immigration from nondeveloped countries.
Pornography- Immoral and degrading. It shall be illegal.
Punishment- Punishment over rehabilitation. Do the crime, do the time. Capital punishment will be legal.
Welfare- Only a safety net for the poorest of the poor. The best welfare is getting a job. Those on welfare must get a job withing 12 months or have their checks continued.
Illegal Drugs- No illegal drugs.
Education- Money recieved for education shall be redistributed in the form of vouchers to allow parents to choice private schools for their children.
Tariffs and Trade- Our workers first. We will join no free trade agreements or sacrifice soverignty in the name of trade.
Taxes- Sales tax only.
Terrorism and Personal Liberty- Religious and racial profiling is legal and encouraged. No government laws prohibiting liberty of law abiding citizens.
Energy- Promoted alternative energy by giving tax cuts to car companies who sell large amounts of hydrogen cars.
Environment- Protect all unnecessary destruction of environment. Creation of national forests and landmarks.
Supranational organizations- We shall belong to no supranational organizations or permanent military alliances.
Foreign Aid- We will provide no financial, military, or economic aid to any foreign country or supranational organizations.
Gay Marriage- No gay marriages or civil unions shall be recognized.
Free Entreprise- The government shall make no law telling business who they can and cannot hire and fire.
_______________________
Globalization is invetible in 2005 just like socialism was invetible in 1917. We seek a fully independent country that protects its own soverignty while not treading on that of others. We will always place the interest of our workers over those of foreign workers. We will always place the interest of our soldiers over those of foreign soldiers. We will always place the interest of our companies over those of multi national corporations.
The biggest cleavages of our times are race and religion in close quaters. As a Christian, I am called by Jesus to be a peacemaker, and sometimes, seperation is the only solution for peace. Join me, and fight for the only type of peace that can last, peace among equal, independent nations.
-Sam Wilson
Chairman of the Political Crossfire National Party
Wow, I didn't know we had Nazis on this forum. Be honest with me, are you serious? |
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Kalu
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Comrade Guihermo wrote: Be honest with me, are you serious?
You'd be surprised how ignorant some people can be.
Kumar wrote: On the other hand, if the position was:
Quote: Pornography- Immoral and degrading. It shall be mandatory.
Then sign me up!
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