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perdidochas
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| Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:45 pm Post subject: Re: Every Democratic Country |
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Lancaster wrote: Recently, I had an idea: Couldn't China just gather up a few million loyal communists, then get them to immigrate to a democratic country, and vote in a communist party. Then the communist party could cancel all further elections and the communists could emigrate back to China (or stay, possibly an incentive offered, similar to those offered in the settlement of the west) This way couldn't China 'conquer' the world? I mean, it's not like we could stop the Chinese from voting... well tell me what you think, personally I think it's not practical, but could be effective if put in practice.
1) Impossible in the U.S. We have a limitation of under a million immigrants a year, only 7% of which can be from a single country. Also it takes 5 yrs to become a citizen after entering this country.
2) That assumes that most of them remain communist upon seeing the benefits of capitalism. |
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perdidochas
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Lancaster wrote: Yes but how would you regulate it? I mean, If they all suddenly show'd up in San Francisco harbour as refugees you'd look very aweful sending them back. And, who's to say it happens all at once? It is conceivable that sleeper cells could be employed, and then you could have like, a 50+ year gap between initiation and execution.
We'd send them back. Refugees from what? |
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foadi
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| Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:25 pm Post subject: Re: Every Democratic Country |
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perdidochas wrote:
2) That assumes that most of them remain communist upon seeing the benefits of capitalism.
I've never met any communists in China to begin with. But Chinese will generally remain loyal to China no matter what. |
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Saracen
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Rankor and Pissing wrote: Oh oh... how about Lebanon or Lybia!
Sure, why not?
Why Lebanon? Because they've still got those fascist Phalangist militias roaming about.
Why Libya? I hate Kaddafi. He's a heretic and a loon dictator. |
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TwinkieDP
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| Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: Every Democratic Country |
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foadi wrote: perdidochas wrote:
2) That assumes that most of them remain communist upon seeing the benefits of capitalism.
I've never met any communists in China to begin with. But Chinese will generally remain loyal to China no matter what. Heh, thats ironic isn't it? |
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TwinkieDP
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Zoot wrote: Well, they'd bring their smelly food and all their diseases and bad driving and gambling, so it'd be just terrible. Plus, those eyes, you can't tell what they're thinking.
Well, you could always fall back on Salami Sandwiches, Kielbasa Sausages, English Black Pudding or Spotted Dicks... :wink: |
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skylance
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| Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:40 am Post subject: Re: Every Democratic Country |
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foadi wrote: perdidochas wrote:
2) That assumes that most of them remain communist upon seeing the benefits of capitalism.
I've never met any communists in China to begin with. But Chinese will generally remain loyal to China no matter what.
en... :roll: communist is always an illusion .Soviet Union is aggressive as it was Russian Empire,now Putin runs this great legacy with the same way.
China already returns to his original track.Chairman Mao's personal idea and dreams of revelution become hidden memory with the rising of China.
we did and will do just as a Chinese,not a communist.
"benefits of capitalism."?----I think our leaders think deeper than it.
:shock: you must keep watching living with aggressive western civilizations. |
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dolphin
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| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:09 am Post subject: Re: Every Democratic Country |
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skylance wrote: foadi wrote: perdidochas wrote:
2) That assumes that most of them remain communist upon seeing the benefits of capitalism.
I've never met any communists in China to begin with. But Chinese will generally remain loyal to China no matter what.
en... :roll: communist is always an illusion .Soviet Union is aggressive as it was Russian Empire,now Putin runs this great legacy with the same way.
China already returns to his original track.Chairman Mao's personal idea and dreams of revelution become hidden memory with the rising of China.
we did and will do just as a Chinese,not a communist.
"benefits of capitalism."?----I think our leaders think deeper than it.
:shock: you must keep watching living with aggressive western civilizations.
You knew CHina better than those suckers above. |
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TwinkieDP
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| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:12 am Post subject: Re: Every Democratic Country |
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skylance wrote: foadi wrote: perdidochas wrote:
2) That assumes that most of them remain communist upon seeing the benefits of capitalism.
I've never met any communists in China to begin with. But Chinese will generally remain loyal to China no matter what.
en... :roll: communist is always an illusion .Soviet Union is aggressive as it was Russian Empire,now Putin runs this great legacy with the same way.
China already returns to his original track.Chairman Mao's personal idea and dreams of revelution become hidden memory with the rising of China.
we did and will do just as a Chinese,not a communist.
"benefits of capitalism."?----I think our leaders think deeper than it.
:shock: you must keep watching living with aggressive western civilizations. What is China's original track? |
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dolphin
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| Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:02 am Post subject: Re: Every Democratic Country |
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TwinkieDP wrote: skylance wrote: foadi wrote: perdidochas wrote:
2) That assumes that most of them remain communist upon seeing the benefits of capitalism.
I've never met any communists in China to begin with. But Chinese will generally remain loyal to China no matter what.
en... :roll: communist is always an illusion .Soviet Union is aggressive as it was Russian Empire,now Putin runs this great legacy with the same way.
China already returns to his original track.Chairman Mao's personal idea and dreams of revelution become hidden memory with the rising of China.
we did and will do just as a Chinese,not a communist.
"benefits of capitalism."?----I think our leaders think deeper than it.
:shock: you must keep watching living with aggressive western civilizations. What is China's original track?
On her way to be an REAL capitalistic country though she has been arguing to be against so far. |
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eynon
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| Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:55 am Post subject: Re: Every Democratic Country |
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foadi wrote: perdidochas wrote:
2) That assumes that most of them remain communist upon seeing the benefits of capitalism.
I've never met any communists in China to begin with. But Chinese will generally remain loyal to China no matter what.
agree on the first part, disagree on the second.....I met a lot of sepratists when I was over there. |
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anti-communist
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Zoot wrote: Quote: Recently, I had an idea: Couldn't China just gather up a few million loyal communists, then get them to immigrate to a democratic country, and vote in a communist party. Then the communist party could cancel all further elections and the communists could emigrate back to China (or stay, possibly an incentive offered, similar to those offered in the settlement of the west) This way couldn't China 'conquer' the world? I mean, it's not like we could stop the Chinese from voting... well tell me what you think, personally I think it's not practical, but could be effective if put in practice.
Well, they'd bring their smelly food and all their diseases and bad driving and gambling, so it'd be just terrible. Plus, those eyes, you can't tell what they're thinking.
:evil: You are trying to insult Chinese people ?Be careful when you use that words! |
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TwinkieDP
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| Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:50 am Post subject: Re: Every Democratic Country |
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wannabe wrote: foadi wrote: perdidochas wrote:
2) That assumes that most of them remain communist upon seeing the benefits of capitalism.
I've never met any communists in China to begin with. But Chinese will generally remain loyal to China no matter what.
agree on the first part, disagree on the second.....I met a lot of sepratists when I was over there. You were traveling in Western China, I'm guessing... |
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MG1962
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| I think Chinas response to the North Korean issue shows they are more interested in being friends with the world and selling things... making money, winning the world cup and all that really important stuff :) |
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dolphin
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MG1962 wrote: I think Chinas response to the North Korean issue shows they are more interested in being friends with the world and selling things... making money, winning the world cup and all that really important stuff :)
NK issue is about CHina's security. It is a good buffer zone to protect CHina from getting invaded by japan and U.S.A. |
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