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[Rilzic]

Wal-Mart currently has thirty-one outlets in fifteen Chinese cities, with 16,000 employees. A company spokesman declined to give sales figures, but published reports have put Wal-Mart's total revenues in China at just under $1 billion.

http://www.globalpolicy.org/socecon/inequal/labor/2003/1208walmartchina.htm

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At a glance

# Auto sales (2004): 5 million
# Annual growth (2004): 15%
# Global sales rank: 3 (after US and Japan) ------- not bad
# Expressway mileage (2004): 34,000 km
# Expressway mileage (1987): 0 km
# Per capita vehicle ownership: 8 per 1000 citizens {look at the room for growth} (global average 120 per 1000; US around 600 per 1000)
# Estimated number of Chinese who can afford a car: 450 million ----- $$$ can you believe that!!!!
# Number of road accident deaths per day: 680 (US = about 115)

Noteworthy players
# Domestic: SAIC, Geely, Chery, Brilliance China Automotive
# Foreign: GM, Ford, DaimlerChrysler, Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, Volkswagen, BMW

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Others/China_Business_Autos.html

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China now has over 715 million phone users

BEIJING - By the end of August 2005, the number of phone users had exceeded 715 million in China, according to statistics of the Ministry of Information Industry.

Of the total, 370 million are mobile phone users and 340 million are fixed-line phone users, an increase of 37.952 million and 30.54 million over the end of last year, respectively. Statistics show that the country's penetration rate of mobile phones reached


http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China_Business/GJ04Cb04.html

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who said they aren't consumers..... not to the same level as the U.S. but you can't say we don't feel their effect already. it would be the chinese yuan

[alex.rj.martin]

superskippy wrote: I know that the Americans were starting to get angry at our military trade policy with China, and I think I tend to agree. Weapons should not be part of the relations building, strong economic and political ties are the key.


Absolutely. International trade, apart from increasing productivity, efficiency and quality of goods, it can also be used as a tie between countries for disincentives for conflict. This was used by the UN after WWII. Germany was given the chance to trade for many necessities with other countries in order to create a relationship where Germany relied on other countries for agricultural goods, while it had a capital based production (with the occassional exeptional industry).
Trading weapons goes against all this as, arms trade is not something you will always need. When supplied to a certain level, your defence productions can be self-sustaining, thus negating the 'disincentives for conlift' ideas behind trade.
America needs to trade capital in exchange for consumer goods, and both countries economy's and political stability will improve by leaps and bounds.

[tictactactical]

alex.rj.martin wrote:
If anyone knows the ideas of Ricardo's "Theory of Comparative Advantage", you will know what i mean.

Yes, the "Theory of Comparative Advantage" was developed by Ricardo; David Ricardo to be exact, but he was not alone in his endeavors. He had a partner in the development of the theory and its principles: Robert Torrens.
In short, the theory postulates trade is beneficial between countries even if one country is more efficient in every sector because of the difference in internal production costs.
:-D

[alex.rj.martin]

tictactactical wrote: alex.rj.martin wrote:
If anyone knows the ideas of Ricardo's "Theory of Comparative Advantage", you will know what i mean.

Yes, the "Theory of Comparative Advantage" was developed by Ricardo; David Ricardo to be exact, but he was not alone in his endeavors. He had a partner in the development of the theory and its principles: Robert Torrens.
In short, the theory postulates trade is beneficial between countries even if one country is more efficient in every sector because of the difference in internal production costs.
:-D

Haha. *show off*. nah thanks. It's good to know someone knows what i'm talking about. The theory may have been created over 300 years ago but it's still relevant in today's world.

[tictactactical]

alex.rj.martin wrote: tictactactical wrote: alex.rj.martin wrote:
If anyone knows the ideas of Ricardo's "Theory of Comparative Advantage", you will know what i mean.

Yes, the "Theory of Comparative Advantage" was developed by Ricardo; David Ricardo to be exact, but he was not alone in his endeavors. He had a partner in the development of the theory and its principles: Robert Torrens.
In short, the theory postulates trade is beneficial between countries even if one country is more efficient in every sector because of the difference in internal production costs.
:-D

Haha. *show off*. nah thanks. It's good to know someone knows what i'm talking about. The theory may have been created over 300 years ago but it's still relevant in today's world.
Well, I am happy to be of support :-D

[mr_FOBolous]

just to let yall know...CHINA IS NOT COMMUNIST ANYMORE. it's only communism by name. if you really look at the ideals of communisms as written by Karl Marx and Lenin, you would see that China doesn't follow ANY of them anymore. Just the fact that China has a capitalist economy shows it's not communist anymore. Capitalism is everything communism is against. China, now, is more like a one party dictatorship than communism.

[alex.rj.martin]

mr_FOBolous wrote: just to let yall know...CHINA IS NOT COMMUNIST ANYMORE. it's only communism by name. if you really look at the ideals of communisms as written by Karl Marx and Lenin, you would see that China doesn't follow ANY of them anymore. Just the fact that China has a capitalist economy shows it's not communist anymore. Capitalism is everything communism is against. China, now, is more like a one party dictatorship than communism.

:clap: very true. Not to mention the fact that any year now, it will be the most powerful economy in the world (about time America had someone to fear)