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tk750

This is simple for you lazy guys. Basically, North Korea has concentration camps identical to the Holocaust where they starve, shoot, torture, and gas the prisoners. These prisoners are usually whole families comprised of little children, fathers, and mothers. They did not do anything wrong but exist and are sent there for biological and chemical testing.

Should Action Be Taken?

Nelson · Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 11:16 pm Post subject:

Believe me, if the United States could attack North Korea - it would. However, whenever a country gains nuclear power it is basically completely un-attackable.

That's the reason both Israel and the US are so terrified of Iran getting nuclear weapons - it would mean that it would be completely unassailable, as well as a grave threat to the world - just like North Korea.

tk750 · Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 11:24 pm Post subject:

Yup I know, but the thing is, the US, to my knowledge has not made any attempts to stop these atrocities. Even more strange, is that we invaded Iraq b/c we thought they had weapons of mass destruction (a.k.a. wmd's). But then, we knew North Korea was creating WMD's (they have biological, chemical, and now nuclear) and yet we did not do anything but G. Bush said, "Duh, um... I think... I think... wait do I think... Oh look its poochie... I'll be back at two, I need to play golf." OIL :shock: ! Thats why we invaded Iraq. Its also racism, no one cares about the Koreans but if its a Jew, now well there are a lot of powerful Jews in this country and its a big discussion. The Holocaust are terrible, but... THERES ANOTHER ONE GOING ON AND NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT IT!!

tk750 · Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 11:27 pm Post subject:

P.S. EACH CONCENTRATION CAMP HOLDS 200,000 PEOLE, JUST LIKE THE NAZIS. ALSO, LINK BELOW FOR A HEART-WRENCHING WITNESS TO THESE ATROCITIES:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_North_Korea

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4397847/

tk750 · Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 11:29 pm Post subject:

So like the Nazis, the North Koreans are denying these camps exist.

Nelson · Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:40 am Post subject:

tk750 wrote: Yup I know, but the thing is, the US, to my knowledge has not made any attempts to stop these atrocities. Even more strange, is that we invaded Iraq b/c we thought they had weapons of mass destruction (a.k.a. wmd's). But then, we knew North Korea was creating WMD's (they have biological, chemical, and now nuclear) and yet we did not do anything but G. Bush said, "Duh, um... I think... I think... wait do I think... Oh look its poochie... I'll be back at two, I need to play golf." OIL :shock: ! Thats why we invaded Iraq. Its also racism, no one cares about the Koreans but if its a Jew, now well there are a lot of powerful Jews in this country and its a big discussion. The Holocaust are terrible, but... THERES ANOTHER ONE GOING ON AND NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT IT!!

If we had known that Iraq had nuclear weapons, we wouldn't have attacked. Because NK has nuclear weapons, nobody is willing to attack.

North Korea has nuclear weapons within striking range of China, Russia, and Japan. Do you realize now why it is almost impossible for the US to take military action?

I want you to answer the question, though: If Iran is on the way towards possessing nuclear weapons, do you believe that military action should be taken to attack?

tk750 · Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:05 pm Post subject:

Yeah I know, but there has to be a way to defend ourselves from a nuclear missle? Is there? Yeah but this pisses me off. I mean isn't there anything we can do? I mean come on, the camps are an exact replica of the Jewish death camps at Auschwitz in Nazi Germany. Doesn't that intrigue anyone that US is keeping this under a low profile? I call it political corruption.

Lancaster · Joined: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 79 Location: Ottawa

Woah, what makes you think even if you did invade you wouldn't have another Iraq, or Vietnam? North Korean Schools requre students to read the Diary of Anne Frank and Equate you americans to the Nazis

tk750 · Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:13 am Post subject:

Lancaster wrote: Woah, what makes you think even if you did invade you wouldn't have another Iraq, or Vietnam? North Korean Schools requre students to read the Diary of Anne Frank and Equate you americans to the Nazis

As with every government and its people, they have flaws. I suppose, we Americans in general have flaws as well such as perhaps being wasteful. The people in the US though are well educated to know from the truth and the lies even if all American schools were rigidly standardized through the internet. Knowledge is power and we are clearly not Nazis, but we are not perfect (with political corruption and greed). Also, we would surely not have another Iraq or Vietnam because unlike Iraq and Vietnam, the oppressive government does not go around starving, beating, and raping the people. It would be a similar case scenario as that of the liberation of Holland during WWII.

Lancaster · Joined: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 79 Location: Ottawa

tk750 wrote: Lancaster wrote: Woah, what makes you think even if you did invade you wouldn't have another Iraq, or Vietnam? North Korean Schools requre students to read the Diary of Anne Frank and Equate you americans to the Nazis

As with every government and its people, they have flaws. I suppose, we Americans in general have flaws as well such as perhaps being wasteful. The people in the US though are well educated to know from the truth and the lies even if all American schools were rigidly standardized through the internet. Knowledge is power and we are clearly not Nazis, but we are not perfect (with political corruption and greed). Also, we would surely not have another Iraq or Vietnam because unlike Iraq and Vietnam, the oppressive government does not go around starving, beating, and raping the people. It would be a similar case scenario as that of the liberation of Holland during WWII.

I didn't call you nazis, Kim Jong Il did, and his people have been brainwashed to believe it. No matter how aweful the North Korean oppression is, they've convinced their own people that you are 1000x worse. Think of it from their point of view, it'd be like being liberated by a gang of dragons. Not like holland at all, they knew the Nazis were worse, and veiwed the Allies as heros, this is simply not the case with North Korea. If you invaded, you'd have an insurgency in a mountainous country. possibly worse than Iraq or Vietnam

Cutthroat · Joined: 11 Oct 2005 Posts: 2

Nelson wrote: tk750 wrote: Yup I know, but the thing is, the US, to my knowledge has not made any attempts to stop these atrocities. Even more strange, is that we invaded Iraq b/c we thought they had weapons of mass destruction (a.k.a. wmd's). But then, we knew North Korea was creating WMD's (they have biological, chemical, and now nuclear) and yet we did not do anything but G. Bush said, "Duh, um... I think... I think... wait do I think... Oh look its poochie... I'll be back at two, I need to play golf." OIL :shock: ! Thats why we invaded Iraq. Its also racism, no one cares about the Koreans but if its a Jew, now well there are a lot of powerful Jews in this country and its a big discussion. The Holocaust are terrible, but... THERES ANOTHER ONE GOING ON AND NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT IT!!

If we had known that Iraq had nuclear weapons, we wouldn't have attacked. Because NK has nuclear weapons, nobody is willing to attack.

North Korea has nuclear weapons within striking range of China, Russia, and Japan. Do you realize now why it is almost impossible for the US to take military action?

I want you to answer the question, though: If Iran is on the way towards possessing nuclear weapons, do you believe that military action should be taken to attack?
For a long time it common knowledge that North Korea was in the process of building nuclear weapons; there was plenty of time for intervention. I think that the real reason that the US chose to do nothing was the fear of Chinese involvement, like in the Korean War.

Canada_Rocks · Joined: 07 Jan 2005 Posts: 9012 Location: Vancouver

Lancaster wrote: tk750 wrote: Lancaster wrote: Woah, what makes you think even if you did invade you wouldn't have another Iraq, or Vietnam? North Korean Schools requre students to read the Diary of Anne Frank and Equate you americans to the Nazis

As with every government and its people, they have flaws. I suppose, we Americans in general have flaws as well such as perhaps being wasteful. The people in the US though are well educated to know from the truth and the lies even if all American schools were rigidly standardized through the internet. Knowledge is power and we are clearly not Nazis, but we are not perfect (with political corruption and greed). Also, we would surely not have another Iraq or Vietnam because unlike Iraq and Vietnam, the oppressive government does not go around starving, beating, and raping the people. It would be a similar case scenario as that of the liberation of Holland during WWII.

I doubt they are as brainwashed as you believe. North Koreans are always sneaking into china and trying to jump tthe fences at the canadian and american ebasseys. I wouldn't count them out. They will finally get enough of that short permed **** known as Kim Jung il.

I didn't call you nazis, Kim Jong Il did, and his people have been brainwashed to believe it. No matter how aweful the North Korean oppression is, they've convinced their own people that you are 1000x worse. Think of it from their point of view, it'd be like being liberated by a gang of dragons. Not like holland at all, they knew the Nazis were worse, and veiwed the Allies as heros, this is simply not the case with North Korea. If you invaded, you'd have an insurgency in a mountainous country. possibly worse than Iraq or Vietnam

Lancaster · Joined: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 79 Location: Ottawa

Hmm.... I don't know....

This could be compared to Iraq, where they were also oppressed before the US led invasion, even if they aren't robots... I'm sure there'd be resistance from the populace... I doubt it'd be anything less than Iraq, but maybe not that much worse... There'd probably be less ferver, but I doubt China would stand idly by. If they didn't actively resist the invasion, they'd probably supply the insurgency.

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the hare · Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 118

tk750 wrote: This is simple for you lazy guys. Basically, North Korea has concentration camps identical to the Holocaust where they starve, shoot, torture, and gas the prisoners. These prisoners are usually whole families comprised of little children, fathers, and mothers. They did not do anything wrong but exist and are sent there for biological and chemical testing.

Should Action Be Taken?

I royally doubt the american government cares about some koreans in concentration camps... they care about the nuclear capabilities.

Plus if we were to take a stance against human mistreatment... wed be after worst offenders.

eynon

tk750 wrote: This is simple for you lazy guys. Basically, North Korea has concentration camps identical to the Holocaust where they starve, shoot, torture, and gas the prisoners. These prisoners are usually whole families comprised of little children, fathers, and mothers. They did not do anything wrong but exist and are sent there for biological and chemical testing.

Should Action Be Taken?

well since it's Korean being killed shoudln't we let our close ally, South Korea, tell us what to do in this situation...seeing as it's their penisular and such.

On a side note if the South did wanna attack the North then I say we back them to the hilt....but I don't see that happening, seeing as it would kill thousands of Koreans, and South Korea doesn't want that. :(

eynon · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:30 pm Post subject:

btw...I can tell you from personal experience that S. Koreans are the biggest, toughest guys in all Asia.

Canada_Rocks · Joined: 07 Jan 2005 Posts: 9012 Location: Vancouver

Eynon81 wrote: btw...I can tell you from personal experience that S. Koreans are the biggest, toughest guys in all Asia.

Exibit A, SOme South Korean Bad Asses.

And apperantly, they have metal claw hands for crushing

:lol: :wink: But yea, I noticed they don't take no s**t.

eynon · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:11 pm Post subject:

Canada_rocks wrote: Eynon81 wrote: btw...I can tell you from personal experience that S. Koreans are the biggest, toughest guys in all Asia.

Exibit A, SOme South Korean Bad Asses.

And apperantly, they have metal claw hands for crushing

:lol: :wink: But yea, I noticed they don't take no s**t.

for the crushing of evil Communist tyrants.

A crushing I sure most of the rest of the free would would love to help with if South Korea said it was ok!

Canada_Rocks · Joined: 07 Jan 2005 Posts: 9012 Location: Vancouver

Eynon81 wrote: Canada_rocks wrote: Eynon81 wrote: btw...I can tell you from personal experience that S. Koreans are the biggest, toughest guys in all Asia.

Exibit A, SOme South Korean Bad Asses.

And apperantly, they have metal claw hands for crushing

:lol: :wink: But yea, I noticed they don't take no s**t.

for the crushing of evil Communist tyrants.

A crushing I sure most of the rest of the free would would love to help with if South Korea said it was ok!

Yep. I would agree. Kim Jung Il is a dick (can I say dick on PC) oh well I just did. we can make naked republicans run across the mine field to clear them..Actually, I've seen some Republicans, they can keep their cloths on :lol:

Lancaster · Joined: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 79 Location: Ottawa

Canada_rocks wrote: Eynon81 wrote: Canada_rocks wrote: Eynon81 wrote: btw...I can tell you from personal experience that S. Koreans are the biggest, toughest guys in all Asia.

Exibit A, SOme South Korean Bad Asses.

And apperantly, they have metal claw hands for crushing

:lol: :wink: But yea, I noticed they don't take no s**t.

for the crushing of evil Communist tyrants.

A crushing I sure most of the rest of the free would would love to help with if South Korea said it was ok!

Yep. I would agree. Kim Jung Il is a dick (can I say dick on PC) oh well I just did. we can make naked republicans run across the mine field to clear them..Actually, I've seen some Republicans, they can keep their cloths on :lol:

So, as it seems death and suffering CAN be great material for a joke... :)