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Protostar · Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 5:29 pm Post subject:

thegriffinator13 wrote: Being old doesn't matter, I know more than my parents about plenty of things. Adults are capable of being perfect idiots but they come across as knowing more.

A sample of lesbians in the city does not neccessarily represent a good many lesbians in the city.

Unless you are bisexual, it matters to everyone whether you have a sexual relationship with a man or a woman.

Yes, but with age comes wisdom and experience. She has more experience than you and therefore knows more about the subject than you. And a sample of a particular group CAN represent a good many memebers of that group. In polls do you think they actually go around and ask every single person what they think on the issue? NO! That would take far too much time and would be inefficient.

Enoch · Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 8780

Protostar wrote: thegriffinator13 wrote: Being old doesn't matter, I know more than my parents about plenty of things. Adults are capable of being perfect idiots but they come across as knowing more.

A sample of lesbians in the city does not neccessarily represent a good many lesbians in the city.

Unless you are bisexual, it matters to everyone whether you have a sexual relationship with a man or a woman.

Yes, but with age comes wisdom and experience. She has more experience than you and therefore knows more about the subject than you. And a sample of a particular group CAN represent a good many memebers of that group. In polls do you think they actually go around and ask every single person what they think on the issue? NO! That would take far too much time and would be inefficient.

No, true, they don't ask every single member of a population what their stance is. However, in order to draw an accurate analysis of a group as a whole, one needs to have sampled a proportionate number of people. This will allow for a higher confidence level when reporting data.

To use your same example, do you think that polls are conducted by only asking ONE member of a population? No. It would be inaccurate to generalize based on one opinion.

Is it possible that the woman is right? Yes. Is it likely? That can not be stated with any degree of confidence, as she is one person commenting on the motives of others.

Gryff1nd0r · Joined: 12 Nov 2004 Posts: 2373 Location: Cambridge, MA

Yes, thank you.

Protostar · Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:22 pm Post subject:

UrielsFyre wrote: Protostar wrote: thegriffinator13 wrote: Being old doesn't matter, I know more than my parents about plenty of things. Adults are capable of being perfect idiots but they come across as knowing more.

A sample of lesbians in the city does not neccessarily represent a good many lesbians in the city.

Unless you are bisexual, it matters to everyone whether you have a sexual relationship with a man or a woman.

Yes, but with age comes wisdom and experience. She has more experience than you and therefore knows more about the subject than you. And a sample of a particular group CAN represent a good many memebers of that group. In polls do you think they actually go around and ask every single person what they think on the issue? NO! That would take far too much time and would be inefficient.

No, true, they don't ask every single member of a population what their stance is. However, in order to draw an accurate analysis of a group as a whole, one needs to have sampled a proportionate number of people. This will allow for a higher confidence level when reporting data.

To use your same example, do you think that polls are conducted by only asking ONE member of a population? No. It would be inaccurate to generalize based on one opinion.

Is it possible that the woman is right? Yes. Is it likely? That can not be stated with any degree of confidence, as she is one person commenting on the motives of others.

I guess you're right. It just makes sense to me what she said. So logical. I'm still going to believe her because it makes me feel good.

Gryff1nd0r · Joined: 12 Nov 2004 Posts: 2373 Location: Cambridge, MA

You know why I love debating Protostar? Because he is so logical and rational in his thinking, you know if he believes something it is for a good reason.

Enoch · Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 8780

Protostar wrote:
I guess you're right. It just makes sense to me what she said. So logical. I'm still going to believe her because it makes me feel good.

Thank you for not letting this turn in to childish name-calling (as too many on this board do). :)

(But, I do like your point of believing it because it makes you feel good. :lol: )

Protostar · Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:42 pm Post subject:

thegriffinator13 wrote: You know why I love debating Protostar? Because he is so logical and rational in his thinking, you know if he believes something it is for a good reason.

I know. If only more women found that appealing. :( Anyway, we still didn't finish our women vs. men debate in that thread you started. I forgot what it was called "If I were a man I would be a feminist" or something like that. I remember it was right after the big femi-nazi wars between me, some other guys and perpetrator.

Gryff1nd0r · Joined: 12 Nov 2004 Posts: 2373 Location: Cambridge, MA

Protostar wrote: thegriffinator13 wrote: You know why I love debating Protostar? Because he is so logical and rational in his thinking, you know if he believes something it is for a good reason.

I know. If only more women found that appealing. :( Anyway, we still didn't finish our women vs. men debate in that thread you started. I forgot what it was called "If I were a man I would be a feminist" or something like that. I remember it was right after the big femi-nazi wars between me, some other guys and perpetrator.

I'm not sure which thread you are speaking of.

Protostar · Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:48 pm Post subject:

thegriffinator13 wrote: Protostar wrote: thegriffinator13 wrote: You know why I love debating Protostar? Because he is so logical and rational in his thinking, you know if he believes something it is for a good reason.

I know. If only more women found that appealing. :( Anyway, we still didn't finish our women vs. men debate in that thread you started. I forgot what it was called "If I were a man I would be a feminist" or something like that. I remember it was right after the big femi-nazi wars between me, some other guys and perpetrator.

I'm not sure which thread you are speaking of.

You know the one, where we were going back and forth about what men have contributed to society, and if women ruled the world and stuff like that. You created it, you should remember.

Gryff1nd0r · Joined: 12 Nov 2004 Posts: 2373 Location: Cambridge, MA

Protostar wrote: thegriffinator13 wrote: Protostar wrote: thegriffinator13 wrote: You know why I love debating Protostar? Because he is so logical and rational in his thinking, you know if he believes something it is for a good reason.

I know. If only more women found that appealing. :( Anyway, we still didn't finish our women vs. men debate in that thread you started. I forgot what it was called "If I were a man I would be a feminist" or something like that. I remember it was right after the big femi-nazi wars between me, some other guys and perpetrator.

I'm not sure which thread you are speaking of.

You know the one, where we were going back and forth about what men have contributed to society, and if women ruled the world and stuff like that. You created it, you should remember.

errrrmmmm.... i vaguely remember but i left PCF for like the whole summer and kind of forgot whatever I was talking about before then. sorry, if you want to dig that thread up go ahead.

MetalLives2 · Joined: 09 Aug 2005 Posts: 24

being gay should be punished. we should inact laws to ban gays from the states. or just relocate them to south dakota. they pollute too much as it is with their mear presance