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TheIronConservative · Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Posts: 1

causes far to much troble lets separate them from the english citizens , otherwise soon evryone will just start killin evry muslim in town, im not saying thats good but i wont condemm it , just get them out of here before its to late

pharaoh · Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:19 am Post subject: Re: Get islam out of england

TheIronConservative wrote: causes far to much troble lets separate them from the english citizens , otherwise soon evryone will just start killin evry muslim in town, im not saying thats good but i wont condemm it , just get them out of here before its to late

Well why dont you get out instead?

Achilles The Myrmidon · Joined: 20 Nov 2004 Posts: 4649 Location: Hellas

pharaoh wrote: TheIronConservative wrote: causes far to much troble lets separate them from the english citizens , otherwise soon evryone will just start killin evry muslim in town, im not saying thats good but i wont condemm it , just get them out of here before its to late

Well why dont you get out instead? You are asking him to get out of his home country? :roll:

pharaoh · Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 12:59 pm Post subject: Re: Get islam out of england

Achilles The Myrmidon wrote: pharaoh wrote: TheIronConservative wrote: causes far to much troble lets separate them from the english citizens , otherwise soon evryone will just start killin evry muslim in town, im not saying thats good but i wont condemm it , just get them out of here before its to late

Well why dont you get out instead? You are asking him to get out of his home country? :roll:

And is he not asking english muslims to leave their home country? :roll:

Chymical · Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 10:53 am Post subject:

:roll:

VoltaireUSA · Joined: 09 Aug 2005 Posts: 13

TheIronConservative wrote: causes far to much troble lets separate them from the english citizens , otherwise soon evryone will just start killin evry muslim in town, im not saying thats good but i wont condemm it , just get them out of here before its to late

I frankly believe that it is those types of opinions that give the extremist muslims more reason to kill. I don't condone murder in the name of any religion, but if you look back at what you believe and compare it to what causes their extremism, you'll see that it is people like you that fuel western resentment from the east. The terrorists gain support when a resentful muslim reads or hears these opinions. If you want the trouble to stop, then you stop causing it.

lucidnightmare · Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:20 am Post subject:

A large portion of Muslims seem to think that everyone should live under their religion no matter what they believe.

airo · Joined: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 2583 Location: Tampa, Florida

lucidnightmare wrote: A large portion of Muslims seem to think that everyone should live under their religion no matter what they believe.

Funny, a large portion of Christians are the same way!

Eternal · Joined: 29 Mar 2005 Posts: 2055 Location: Somewhere

airo wrote: Funny, a large portion of Christians are the same way!

Religion tends to encourage that belief.

Cheers, Eternal

lucidnightmare · Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:16 pm Post subject:

As far as I know nobody in America is being killed or taxed for not being Christian.

Do I need to tell you how mant Islamic societies do one or both?

airo · Joined: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 2583 Location: Tampa, Florida

lucidnightmare wrote: As far as I know nobody in America is being killed or taxed for not being Christian.

Do I need to tell you how mant Islamic societies do one or both? No, instead, they were killed and tortured for the past couple... well... thousand years. Even in the past one hundred years, there's been cases of Christian hatred in the United States.

Plenty of countries have had slaughters in the name of Christ. Read up on Milosevic and the Serbs. There was a reason they saluted with three fingers extended. ;)

lucidnightmare · Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 3:50 am Post subject:

airo wrote: lucidnightmare wrote: As far as I know nobody in America is being killed or taxed for not being Christian.

Do I need to tell you how mant Islamic societies do one or both? No, instead, they were killed and tortured for the past couple... well... thousand years. Even in the past one hundred years, there's been cases of Christian hatred in the United States.

Plenty of countries have had slaughters in the name of Christ. Read up on Milosevic and the Serbs. There was a reason they saluted with three fingers extended. ;)

I didn't see anyone defending Milosevic.No one said well yea he's bad , but it's because of our policies.Do the left only do that for some tyrants and death cults?How do you pick which ones?

Nobody suggested we change policies to please Milosevic.

Does what Christians do currently( in far smaller amounts and frequency) or have done in the past justify radical Muslims?

This same tactic is used by every bleeding heart to avoid dealing with facts.Lets not talk about the bus bombing last week ,lets talk about all religious nuts of the past.But Spanish conquistadors aren't blowing up buses, Muslims are.

I condemn the Inquisition and the Christian philosophies that spawned it as I do Islamic philosophies today that allow for the killing of anyone not them.

I am consistent.Most on the left on the other hand rationalize Islamic violence for the sake of political correctness, and the fact that they love those who condemn western culture, they rationalized communism and now Islamic fascism.

While in the same breath spewing venom at at nonviolent American cultural conservatives who are more annoying than dangerous.

airo · Joined: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 2583 Location: Tampa, Florida

You do realize that the MAJORITY of Muslims condemn fanatics, right? Especially the ones living in Western countries.

Anyway, i'm not sure what you were saying. Please revise your post into coherent English.

lucidnightmare · Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:44 pm Post subject:

What don't you understand?

pharaoh · Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:50 pm Post subject:

lucidnightmare wrote: What don't you understand?

Well i didnt understand much either...

lucidnightmare · Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:53 pm Post subject:

Specifically?

I think you have run out of arguments.

pharaoh · Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 3:17 pm Post subject:

lucidnightmare wrote: Specifically?

I think you have run out of arguments.

ran out of arguments?

Budy do I know you? Did we ever argue before? :roll:

lucidnightmare · Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 3:24 pm Post subject:

Either be specific about what you don't understand or I think you are just avoiding the issue.I would be happy to make it more clear.

pharaoh · Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 3:33 pm Post subject:

lucidnightmare wrote: Either be specific about what you don't understand or I think you are just avoiding the issue.I would be happy to make it more clear.

Ok.Be more clear.

lucidnightmare · Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 3:51 pm Post subject:

Quote: Ididn't see anyone defending Milosevic.No one said well yea he's bad , but it's because of our policies.Do the left only do that for some tyrants and death cults?How do you pick which ones?

Nobody made excuses for Milosevic like they do Islamic terrorist.Like saying it was some policy that made him do what he did.

Quote: Nobody suggested we change policies to please Milosevic.

It was never suggested that we change national policy to appease Milosevic.

Quote: Does what Christians do currently( in far smaller amounts and frequency) or have done in the past justify radical Muslims?

What one group does wrong , isn't justification for what another does wrong.

Quote: This same tactic is used by every bleeding heart to avoid dealing with facts.Lets not talk about the bus bombing last week ,lets talk about all religious nuts of the past.But Spanish conquistadors aren't blowing up buses, Muslims are.

A bomb goes off in Gaza in the name of Jihad and when anyone mentions it , a usual tactic by many is to start talking about accused witch burning hundreds of years ago, thereby avoiding the issue completely.

Quote: I condemn the Inquisition and the Christian philosophies that spawned it as I do Islamic philosophies today that allow for the killing of anyone not them.

Christian violence, though far less frequent is just as wrong but doesn't make it ok for Islamic fanatics.

Quote: I am consistent.Most on the left on the other hand rationalize Islamic violence for the sake of political correctness, and the fact that they love those who condemn western culture, they rationalized communism and now Islamic fascism.

This is about the habit of the left in America to demonize the Christian right, though they are far less violent, while on the other hand rationalizing Islamic right violence by blaming Jewish or American policies.

Unless you want pictures I don't know what else to do.