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[Bag of Rags]

Evildonut wrote: 1095-1291
Since the time of Constantine, Christians had gone on pilgrimages to the Holy Land. Even though Moslems had ruled Jerusalem since 638, Christians were still allowed to visit the city. By the 11th century, however, the situation had changed. Just as the number and frequency of pilgrimages to Jerusalem was at new peaks, the Seljuk Turks took over control of Jerusalem and prevented pilgrimages.

The First Crusade
Pope Urban II (1088-1099, see art below) was responsible for assisting Emperor Alexus I (1081-1118) of Constantinople in launching the first crusade. He made one of the most influential speeches in the Middle Ages, calling on Christian princes in Europe to go on a crusade to rescue the Holy Land from the Turks. In the speech given at the Council of Clermont in France, on November 27, 1095, he combined the ideas of making a pilgrimage to the Holy Land with that of waging a holy war against infidels.

http://gbgm-umc.org/umw/bible/crusades.stm

Interestingly, the speech of Pope Urban II is - in essence and form - almost identical to the one made by Osama bin Laden, calling for Jihad.

[Evildonut]

Bag of Rags wrote: Evildonut wrote: 1095-1291
Since the time of Constantine, Christians had gone on pilgrimages to the Holy Land. Even though Moslems had ruled Jerusalem since 638, Christians were still allowed to visit the city. By the 11th century, however, the situation had changed. Just as the number and frequency of pilgrimages to Jerusalem was at new peaks, the Seljuk Turks took over control of Jerusalem and prevented pilgrimages.

The First Crusade
Pope Urban II (1088-1099, see art below) was responsible for assisting Emperor Alexus I (1081-1118) of Constantinople in launching the first crusade. He made one of the most influential speeches in the Middle Ages, calling on Christian princes in Europe to go on a crusade to rescue the Holy Land from the Turks. In the speech given at the Council of Clermont in France, on November 27, 1095, he combined the ideas of making a pilgrimage to the Holy Land with that of waging a holy war against infidels.

http://gbgm-umc.org/umw/bible/crusades.stm

Interestingly, the speech of Pope Urban II is - in essence and form - almost identical to the one made by Osama bin Laden, calling for Jihad.

Wow, now thats irony

[Saracen]

Islam does NOT embrace atrocity.

I don't know where you got such ideas from... may it be biased thinking or Western media, Islam opposes atrocity.

Take a look at the other threads in this forum that talk about Islam as the religion of PEACE that it is.

[Saracen]

Would you like more evidence that Islam has always been a religion of violence, or would you simply like to continue living in ignorance?

Bag of Rags, you have proved to be nothing but a mere Anti-Islamic person. Islam has been a religion of peace. It started that way and it's always going to be that way. And don't quote sources that are biased. And for one thing: it is YOU who is living in ignorance because you don't know anything about Islam and yet you dare come up to us in your arrogance and argue against us.

Go read a book about Islam. One that is not written by an anti-Islamic person like yourself. Then, when you're done... no, wait. You're probably going to throw that book away because of your deep hate towards Islam and labelling it as a religion of violence.

As I said, go look at the other posts me and my fellow Muslims have put in these forums that state the side of Islam you don't want to read about.

Ignorance prevails in the minds of those who think they're right all the time. That said, you're wrong.