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[Geneviève]

Quote: I don't know that many 5 year olds who have a solid opinion on homosexuality, or whoeven know what it is. If the parents are teaching Bobby about Heather's Mommies, it's cool, but not when it's the school.


And what about when it's "Heather" herself?
Do you support a "don't ask, don't tell" policy for kindergartners?
Should the children of gay parents (or any other type of parents besides conventional nuclear two-parent families) have to be ashamed of who they are?
Are you aware how few children these days are actually being raised in traditional two-parent families?
When a "family" is presented to five years olds as being "a mother, a father, and kids", you are invalidating the experience, the families, and the lives of more than half the class. You are discriminating against children for whom a "family" means something other than a mother, a father, and kids.
The job of educators is to serve the interests and needs of children.
Catering to the prejudices of parents should not be part of an educator's job, particularly when doing so runs counter to the best interests of the students.

[R.A.Lafferty Incarnate]

These are the symptoms of a culture gone mad.

When government is charged with the duty of infusing morality into the wee citizens of tomorrow then we are doomed. Hell, the government can't fix roads. Throw the arrogrant bureaucrats out of our schools. They teach only to enhance their posture so that later the people will be easier to govern.

These social tinkerers are dangerous. They care not a whit if your son or daughter grow to live a confused life of thinking that an option to heterosexuality is homosexuality with all of the attendant repercussions.

Free the man and jail the government teachers. :x

And the judge. :x

[curisz]

Geneviève wrote: Quote: I don't know that many 5 year olds who have a solid opinion on homosexuality, or whoeven know what it is. If the parents are teaching Bobby about Heather's Mommies, it's cool, but not when it's the school.


And what about when it's "Heather" herself?
Do you support a "don't ask, don't tell" policy for kindergartners?
Should the children of gay parents (or any other type of parents besides conventional nuclear two-parent families) have to be ashamed of who they are?
Are you aware how few children these days are actually being raised in traditional two-parent families?
When a "family" is presented to five years olds as being "a mother, a father, and kids", you are invalidating the experience, the families, and the lives of more than half the class. You are discriminating against children for whom a "family" means something other than a mother, a father, and kids.
The job of educators is to serve the interests and needs of children.
Catering to the prejudices of parents should not be part of an educator's job, particularly when doing so runs counter to the best interests of the students.

Well said Genevieve. I mean the stuff kids read has to be about something right? How many kids stories involve a family, and always a mother and a father. It's like anything else. If all comic book superheroes are white, then the black kid gets teased when they are playing superheroes. If all Daddies in the books go to work and Mommies take care of the kids, then if Daddy is the one picking you up from school and cooking dinner, something is wrong, right?

Little story. My girlfriends daughter is kind of a tom boy. She likes to play fighting games, stuff like that. One time we were with her little cousin, who is 8, and the cousin starts in: "Why does destiny like boy toys, she's supposed to like girl toys! You should take her to a doctor and fix her so she likes girl toys!"

Kids learn this garbage early.

[Ben_Huh]

Quote: And what about when it's "Heather" herself?

She's 5 and she's not the school.

Quote: Do you support a "don't ask, don't tell" policy for kindergartners?

No. Like I said she's 5 and she's not the school. Just because she tells Timmy she has 2 moms, doesn't means she trying to force him into toleration.

Quote: Should the children of gay parents (or any other type of parents besides conventional nuclear two-parent families) have to be ashamed of who they are?

No, but my children should not be taught in schools to be tolerate of them, they should be taught by me.

Quote: Are you aware how few children these days are actually being raised in traditional two-parent families?

Yes, but I believe toleration should be taught at home.

Quote: When a "family" is presented to five years olds as being "a mother, a father, and kids", you are invalidating the experience, the families, and the lives of more than half the class. You are discriminating against children for whom a "family" means something other than a mother, a father, and kids.

I don't think schools should be teaching 5 yr olds about families anyway, the parents should. Parents have the right to pass on their beliefs to their children.

Quote: The job of educators is to serve the interests and needs of children.
Catering to the prejudices of parents should not be part of an educator's job, particularly when doing so runs counter to the best interests of the students.

Your a teacher, and since you have kids, a parent, but you are not a parent of my kids. Just because someone might be intolerant of a certain lifestyle doesn't mean they will resort to violence. Let the parents be prejudice, it's their right. Like i said, stick to the curriculum, I'll talk to my kids about morals.

[mwm1331]

Jay2014 wrote: Innoova wrote: Jay2014 wrote: Little Wimp wrote: Quote: The dispute started last spring when a book was sent home with Parker's 5-year-old son as optional reading material to be shared with his parents. One page of the book depicted a gay family. After meeting with school officials, Parker refused to leave unless they agreed to notify him in the future if similar material is again offered to his son. He was arrested and banned from school property.


http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45594

http://www.365gay.com/newscon05/08/080405dadBook.htm

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/4801212/detail.html

This is the kind of thing that makes people like me despise the gay movement. Why are they going after children who are 5 years old?
Why can't a father determine what his child can and can't be indoctrinated with when he/she is supposed to be learning the A,B,C's and 1,2,3's at school?

Welcome to the Soviet Union.

its a book with some gay people in it, i hardly see it as indoctrination.i dont see them as "going after" them any more than a book with a black family would be black people "going after" them. i think tolerance needs to be taught young. that being said, i oppose public education, and this is one of the reasons. as much as i may find it personally offensive, i think a parent has the right to raise his or her child however they see fit.


Are you saying that it is Not the Parents right to know in advance whether or not controversial topics are going to be taught to their Children at 5?

Do you also support Teaching 5 year olds about Jeffrey Dhamer? I mean, Murder is something they'll need to Tolerate, Right?

i have no problem with the parents being involved. and no, murder is not something we need to tolerate, and neither is bigotry.

Incorrect. We do have to tolerate bigoty as bigotry is a state of mind. Once someone takes action on that state of mind it becomes discrimination which as a society we do not tolerate. Laws regualte actions not thoughts.
Quote: big·ot·ry Audio pronunciation of "bigotry" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (bg-tr)
n.

The attitude, state of mind, or characteristic of a bigot; intolerance.


Quote: dis·crim·i·na·tion Audio pronunciation of "discrimination" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (d-skrm-nshn)
n.

Treatment or consideration based on class or category rather than individual merit; partiality or prejudice: racial discrimination; discrimination against foreigners.

[Geneviève]

Quote: Just because she tells Timmy she has 2 moms, doesn't means she trying to force him into toleration.


I'm sorry, but tolerance is required of schoolchildren.
Blatant intolerance of one another's families is considered bullying and harrassment, and is not allowed, as it is demeaning to the child being harrassed.
I do not allow children to demean their classmates or their classmates' families, and I don't know of any educator who does.
If you wish to indoctrinate your child in intolerance, then I suggest you home-school.

[Innoova]

Geneviève wrote: Quote: Just because she tells Timmy she has 2 moms, doesn't means she trying to force him into toleration.


I'm sorry, but tolerance is required of schoolchildren.
Blatant intolerance of one another's families is considered bullying and harrassment, and is not allowed, as it is demeaning to the child being harrassed.
I do not allow children to demean their classmates or their classmates' families, and I don't know of any educator who does.
If you wish to indoctrinate your child in intolerance, then I suggest you home-school.


LMAO, now saying that the school shouldn't teach morals, Is Intolerance?


I am an Agnostic Right Winger.

I have Dealt with s**t from Teachers about God, Repeatedly, And Openly against the School Rules, Politics, Homosexuality, Murder, Serial killers, Racism, Gang Activity, Shootings, Stabbings, And Had Many teachers attept the Thrust their morals onto me.

I've had Teachers that had the General Idea that Soldiers are scum. And taught this way, And brought this up in Discussion.

I've had a Teacher that made an analogy to Iraq during his HEALTH class.


And you're going to say That this is RIGHT?


Again, LMAO.


School is for Education. Not Social Engineering.

[Geneviève]

Quote: How many kids stories involve a family, and always a mother and a father. It's like anything else. If all comic book superheroes are white, then the black kid gets teased when they are playing superheroes. If all Daddies in the books go to work and Mommies take care of the kids, then if Daddy is the one picking you up from school and cooking dinner, something is wrong, right?

Little story. My girlfriends daughter is kind of a tom boy. She likes to play fighting games, stuff like that. One time we were with her little cousin, who is 8, and the cousin starts in: "Why does destiny like boy toys, she's supposed to like girl toys! You should take her to a doctor and fix her so she likes girl toys!"

Kids learn this garbage early.


Exactly! I'm glad someone understands.
Diversity is nothing to be afraid of.

[Ben_Huh]

Quote: I'm sorry, but tolerance is required of schoolchildren.
Blatant intolerance of one another's families is considered bullying and harrassment, and is not allowed, as it is demeaning to the child being harrassed.
I do not allow children to demean their classmates or their classmates' families, and I don't know of any educator who does.
If you wish to indoctrinate your child in intolerance, then I suggest you home-school.

A level of toleration must be had in school in order to prevent such things, but you can't force anyone to be tolerate of others outside the school. The school board holds no power in my house, I do.

BTW: Just because someone is intolerant of anothers lifestyle, does not mean that it will lead them to violence or name-calling. My mother is very intolerant of the homosexual lifestyle, but she has not, and will not, stoop to violence in the name of her intolerance.

Quote: School is for Education. Not Social Engineering

I completely agree.

[Geneviève]

Quote: A level of toleration must be had in school in order to prevent such things, but you can't force anyone to be tolerate of others outside the school. The school board holds no power in my house, I do.



Just as some parents oppose homosexuality, you do understand that some parents are racist.
I mean, you're aware of this, right?
Do you suggest that schools allow the children of racist parents to bring that ideology to school and bully minority students with it?
Why, then, would schools allow active intolerance of students with gay parents (or even, on a high school level, of students who are gay themselves)?

[Ben_Huh]

Quote: Just as some parents oppose homosexuality, you do understand that some parents are racist.
I mean, you're aware of this, right?

Um, duh...

Quote: Do you suggest that schools allow the children of racist parents to bring that ideology to school and bully minority students with it?
Why, then, would schools allow active intolerance of students with gay parents (or even, on a high school level, of students who are gay themselves)?

I agreed with you that kids should keep the intolerations to themselves while at school as they are there to learn, not to make fun of others. Bully, no, bring it, yes. You can't systematically teach kids to love eachother, it has to happen naturally.

[mwm1331]

First
A Family is a Mother, a Father, and Kids.
End of story.
Whether someone has "two mommies" or not, they also have a father.
Second.
Quote: The job of educators is to serve the interests and needs of children.
No and that idea is half of what is wrong with our educational system. The educators job is to educate. Thats it. Furthermore thier job is to educate on a set of very specific subject, subjects that as a society we have mutually agreed are the bare minimum for surviving in our society. Math, science, history. Sexuality, (at least in elementary school) isn't one of them, nor at five is contemporary American sociology as ity pertains to traditional and non traditional family units.
Quote: Because frankly, educators are better qualified to decide what curriculum to teach than most parents are, having years of specialized training in the field of child development.
bulls**t. The curriculum is predesigned. Math, history, science, literature, grammar, etc.Those are things teachers are trained to teach. You have no business teaching your morals to others children, stick to the facts, let the parents teach judgement and values.
Quote: Personally, I find it ironic that the same people who oppose gay adoption on the grounds that the child will feel different/ be teased/ not fit in/ not be accepted by his peers also oppose any effort by educators to try to alleviate intolerance and help children from different types of families become more accepted and less discriminated against by their peers.

God forbid you ever die, leaving your spouse to raise your children as a single parent.
If the neocons have their way, children from single-parent households will soon be as socially alienated and discriminated against as the children of homosexual parents are now.
DO you actually buy this bulls**t or are you just in sales? Children will always find a reason to discriminate, tease, heckle etc. other children. If its not your parents its your name, or what you parents pack for lunch, or your habits, or what superheroe you like. Have you ever even been around children?As to single parents I am a neo con, I know of none who have a problem with single mothers. Our problem is with single women who don't become mothers (abortion)
Quote: If your religion believes something is immoral, tough s**t! If it doesn't involve coercion, is clearly not a choice, and there is a large community of people who just want to live their lives and have the same rights like everyone else, you will have to learn to live with them. And a book that teaches kids to be tolerant of them is not a bad thing.
You people make me sick!

When it teaches tolerance of immorality and perversion it is. Homosexuality is clearly a choice, thus the term "alternative lifestyle"
and personally you make me sick as well. I dont have to accept, tolerate, or condone anyones lifestyle but my own, get used to it. You can do what ever the hell you want in the bedroopm, keep it out of the schools, offices, courts, etc.
Quote: Are you aware how few children these days are actually being raised in traditional two-parent families?
Traditional? Some. Two parent families? Most. The parents may be divorced, seperated etc. But all kids have two parents (biology you know) and even if the family isn't perfect most see both parents just not always at the same time.

[Innoova]

Geneviève wrote: Quote: A level of toleration must be had in school in order to prevent such things, but you can't force anyone to be tolerate of others outside the school. The school board holds no power in my house, I do.



Just as some parents oppose homosexuality, you do understand that some parents are racist.
I mean, you're aware of this, right?
Do you suggest that schools allow the children of racist parents to bring that ideology to school and bully minority students with it?
Why, then, would schools allow active intolerance of students with gay parents (or even, on a high school level, of students who are gay themselves)?

In Short. Yes. They SHOULD be allowed to bring that Ideology to School. Or whereever they go. Allow them to bully? No. But have their own Ideas. Of course.

People are Allowed to have whatever Ideas they so choose. . People are FREE to be racist if they so choose. You can't stop them. And Attempting to Social Engineer it out of society is Just sickening.

The same goes for The homosexuality issue.


Again, School is for Education. Only.

[Geneviève]

Quote: If your religion believes something is immoral, tough s**t! If it doesn't involve coercion, is clearly not a choice, and there is a large community of people who just want to live their lives and have the same rights like everyone else, you will have to learn to live with them. And a book that teaches kids to be tolerant of them is not a bad thing.
You people make me sick!



I don't know why you slipped this quote in among all of my quotes, but I will point out that I didn't write this.
Although I more or less agree with the content of it.

[mwm1331]

I was responding to the entire thread.

[Degenetron]

Innoova wrote: Geneviève wrote: Quote: A level of toleration must be had in school in order to prevent such things, but you can't force anyone to be tolerate of others outside the school. The school board holds no power in my house, I do.



Just as some parents oppose homosexuality, you do understand that some parents are racist.
I mean, you're aware of this, right?
Do you suggest that schools allow the children of racist parents to bring that ideology to school and bully minority students with it?
Why, then, would schools allow active intolerance of students with gay parents (or even, on a high school level, of students who are gay themselves)?

In Short. Yes. They SHOULD be allowed to bring that Ideology to School. Or whereever they go. Allow them to bully? No. But have their own Ideas. Of course.

People are Allowed to have whatever Ideas they so choose. . People are FREE to be racist if they so choose. You can't stop them. And Attempting to Social Engineer it out of society is Just sickening.

The same goes for The homosexuality issue.


Again, School is for Education. Only.

Agreed

[curisz]

Innoova wrote: Geneviève wrote: Quote: Just because she tells Timmy she has 2 moms, doesn't means she trying to force him into toleration.


I'm sorry, but tolerance is required of schoolchildren.
Blatant intolerance of one another's families is considered bullying and harrassment, and is not allowed, as it is demeaning to the child being harrassed.
I do not allow children to demean their classmates or their classmates' families, and I don't know of any educator who does.
If you wish to indoctrinate your child in intolerance, then I suggest you home-school.




LMAO, now saying that the school shouldn't teach morals, Is Intolerance?


I am an Agnostic Right Winger.

I have Dealt with s**t from Teachers about God, Repeatedly, And Openly against the School Rules, Politics, Homosexuality, Murder, Serial killers, Racism, Gang Activity, Shootings, Stabbings, And Had Many teachers attept the Thrust their morals onto me.

I've had Teachers that had the General Idea that Soldiers are scum. And taught this way, And brought this up in Discussion.

I've had a Teacher that made an analogy to Iraq during his HEALTH class.


And you're going to say That this is RIGHT?


Again, LMAO.


School is for Education. Not Social Engineering.

Education involves thinking about things and learning to form ideas and opinions and express them, and back them up. Social engineering? What isn't social engineering. Isn't only exposing kids to certain prescribed norms a form of social engineering, just as much if not more so than exposing them to a variety of possibilities and letting them start to think for themself? How is the stuff taught in English classes in schools for the last 200 years NOT social engineering? How is saying the pledge NOT social engineering? You can't teach English without context or meaning, you just can't. There are hidden messages implicit in everything you read. If its a message you approve of indoctrinating your kids with, then its just reading. If not then its "social engineering".

If this guy can throw a fit because one book includes a child with two moms (and don't bring biology into this, biology does not define the social reality of the family), then lets have gay families staging a scene everytime their lil darlins have to read a book which DOESN"T have any gay characters, or Blacks protest reading Romeo and Juliet because everyone in it is Caucasian. Or Christians freaking out everytime the word Sunday is mentioned without saying something about going to church. There are all kinds of people in the world. How is letting a kid know that any more indoctrination than giving them the false belief that there is only one?

[Innoova]

curisz wrote: Innoova wrote: Geneviève wrote: Quote: Just because she tells Timmy she has 2 moms, doesn't means she trying to force him into toleration.


I'm sorry, but tolerance is required of schoolchildren.
Blatant intolerance of one another's families is considered bullying and harrassment, and is not allowed, as it is demeaning to the child being harrassed.
I do not allow children to demean their classmates or their classmates' families, and I don't know of any educator who does.
If you wish to indoctrinate your child in intolerance, then I suggest you home-school.




LMAO, now saying that the school shouldn't teach morals, Is Intolerance?


I am an Agnostic Right Winger.

I have Dealt with s**t from Teachers about God, Repeatedly, And Openly against the School Rules, Politics, Homosexuality, Murder, Serial killers, Racism, Gang Activity, Shootings, Stabbings, And Had Many teachers attept the Thrust their morals onto me.

I've had Teachers that had the General Idea that Soldiers are scum. And taught this way, And brought this up in Discussion.

I've had a Teacher that made an analogy to Iraq during his HEALTH class.


And you're going to say That this is RIGHT?


Again, LMAO.


School is for Education. Not Social Engineering.

Education involves thinking about things and learning to form ideas and opinions and express them, and back them up. Social engineering? What isn't social engineering. Isn't only exposing kids to certain prescribed norms a form of social engineering, just as much if not more so than exposing them to a variety of possibilities and letting them start to think for themself? How is the stuff taught in English classes in schools for the last 200 years NOT social engineering? How is saying the pledge NOT social engineering? You can't teach English without context or meaning, you just can't. There are hidden messages implicit in everything you read. If its a message you approve of indoctrinating your kids with, then its just reading. If not then its "social engineering".

If this guy can throw a fit because one book includes a child with two moms (and don't bring biology into this, biology does not define the social reality of the family), then lets have gay families staging a scene everytime their lil darlins have to read a book which DOESN"T have any gay characters, or Blacks protest reading Romeo and Juliet because everyone in it is Caucasian. Or Christians freaking out everytime the word Sunday is mentioned without saying something about going to church. There are all kinds of people in the world. How is letting a kid know that any more indoctrination than giving them the false belief that there is only one?


There is a difference between Making People accept Homosexuality at an age before they are even able to understand what it is, And Teaching people how to speak English.

And No, Everything is NOT social Engineering. Forcing someone to accept a certain Culture, would be Social Engineering. Right now, you are not required to Say the pledge. You are required to stand. Out of Respect, but you are not required to say it. English Classes, I'm not quite sure about yours, But I know my Teacher LOVED debates. Especially stemming from what we were doing. So they're not social Engineering there Either. For once vital Reason.

We understand what we are being Taught. And we have enough real life experiences to be able to seperate what we agree with and what we don't.

We know Enough to see that Romeo and Juliets Suicide is Wrong. And We know enough to see That Ceasar was a power Hungry Tyrant.


But if you showed Romeo and Juliet to 5 year olds. There would be a string of Toddler suicides Because they would think thats how you "Prove your love".


We have the Age and Experience to form our own Decisions, and Our own opinions on things. 5 year olds are still building Cardboard Rocketships to the Moon.


Hell, at that point, Girls still have cooties. Each gender would rather stay with their own. The "Boys club" and "Girls Club" Phase. Now After the kids see Mr. and Mr. Smith kiss. Whats to say that Monkey-see Monkey-doo won't follow? We already know Children learn from Mocking. How do you get your child to say "Mama" or "Dada"? By annoying the piss out of them saying it to them until they mock you.


So, you are going to be Teaching these Children that its "Ok" to be homosexual, While they are still in a phase where They'd rather be around their own Gender, and before the understand what sexuality IS much less find their own.


All this will do is Create a generation of Gender-confused Children. And increase, Not Lower, the The bullying, when this Gender confused Group Starts having to have social interactions with others who weren't gender confused as a child.

[EugenicHegemony]

Little Wimp wrote: Quote: The dispute started last spring when a book was sent home with Parker's 5-year-old son as optional reading material to be shared with his parents. One page of the book depicted a gay family. After meeting with school officials, Parker refused to leave unless they agreed to notify him in the future if similar material is again offered to his son. He was arrested and banned from school property.


http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45594

http://www.365gay.com/newscon05/08/080405dadBook.htm

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/4801212/detail.html

This is the kind of thing that makes people like me despise the gay movement. Why are they going after children who are 5 years old?
Why can't a father determine what his child can and can't be indoctrinated with when he/she is supposed to be learning the A,B,C's and 1,2,3's at school?

Welcome to the Soviet Union.

If the kids not gay the book won't make him gay. 5 is young, but what damage will it do to understand how the world works. I think it's odd adopted kids don't get told their apoted till their older. I would think the younger the kid was the easier it would be to understand, and not flip out over. This whole gay "agenda" thing is stupid, there is no agenda. There is no war on terrorism, drugs, or poverty either. This country is being bred now anti gay, classic fascist policy.

[curisz]

Innoova wrote: curisz wrote: Innoova wrote: Geneviève wrote: Quote: Just because she tells Timmy she has 2 moms, doesn't means she trying to force him into toleration.


I'm sorry, but tolerance is required of schoolchildren.
Blatant intolerance of one another's families is considered bullying and harrassment, and is not allowed, as it is demeaning to the child being harrassed.
I do not allow children to demean their classmates or their classmates' families, and I don't know of any educator who does.
If you wish to indoctrinate your child in intolerance, then I suggest you home-school.




LMAO, now saying that the school shouldn't teach morals, Is Intolerance?


I am an Agnostic Right Winger.

I have Dealt with s**t from Teachers about God, Repeatedly, And Openly against the School Rules, Politics, Homosexuality, Murder, Serial killers, Racism, Gang Activity, Shootings, Stabbings, And Had Many teachers attept the Thrust their morals onto me.

I've had Teachers that had the General Idea that Soldiers are scum. And taught this way, And brought this up in Discussion.

I've had a Teacher that made an analogy to Iraq during his HEALTH class.


And you're going to say That this is RIGHT?


Again, LMAO.


School is for Education. Not Social Engineering.

Education involves thinking about things and learning to form ideas and opinions and express them, and back them up. Social engineering? What isn't social engineering. Isn't only exposing kids to certain prescribed norms a form of social engineering, just as much if not more so than exposing them to a variety of possibilities and letting them start to think for themself? How is the stuff taught in English classes in schools for the last 200 years NOT social engineering? How is saying the pledge NOT social engineering? You can't teach English without context or meaning, you just can't. There are hidden messages implicit in everything you read. If its a message you approve of indoctrinating your kids with, then its just reading. If not then its "social engineering".

If this guy can throw a fit because one book includes a child with two moms (and don't bring biology into this, biology does not define the social reality of the family), then lets have gay families staging a scene everytime their lil darlins have to read a book which DOESN"T have any gay characters, or Blacks protest reading Romeo and Juliet because everyone in it is Caucasian. Or Christians freaking out everytime the word Sunday is mentioned without saying something about going to church. There are all kinds of people in the world. How is letting a kid know that any more indoctrination than giving them the false belief that there is only one?


There is a difference between Making People accept Homosexuality at an age before they are even able to understand what it is, And Teaching people how to speak English.

And No, Everything is NOT social Engineering. Forcing someone to accept a certain Culture, would be Social Engineering. Right now, you are not required to Say the pledge. You are required to stand. Out of Respect, but you are not required to say it. English Classes, I'm not quite sure about yours, But I know my Teacher LOVED debates. Especially stemming from what we were doing. So they're not social Engineering there Either. For once vital Reason.

We understand what we are being Taught. And we have enough real life experiences to be able to seperate what we agree with and what we don't.

We know Enough to see that Romeo and Juliets Suicide is Wrong. And We know enough to see That Ceasar was a power Hungry Tyrant.


But if you showed Romeo and Juliet to 5 year olds. There would be a string of Toddler suicides Because they would think thats how you "Prove your love".


We have the Age and Experience to form our own Decisions, and Our own opinions on things. 5 year olds are still building Cardboard Rocketships to the Moon.


Hell, at that point, Girls still have cooties. Each gender would rather stay with their own. The "Boys club" and "Girls Club" Phase. Now After the kids see Mr. and Mr. Smith kiss. Whats to say that Monkey-see Monkey-doo won't follow? We already know Children learn from Mocking. How do you get your child to say "Mama" or "Dada"? By annoying the piss out of them saying it to them until they mock you.


So, you are going to be Teaching these Children that its "Ok" to be homosexual, While they are still in a phase where They'd rather be around their own Gender, and before the understand what sexuality IS much less find their own.


All this will do is Create a generation of Gender-confused Children. And increase, Not Lower, the The bullying, when this Gender confused Group Starts having to have social interactions with others who weren't gender confused as a child.

You know, I really doubt that that book says one word about homosexuality, or sexuality period. Only that some kid is being raised by two women who love him very much and they are a family. Most kindergardners have no idea what sex even is, and would be freaked out if they knew what Mommy and Daddy do. To them, all relationships are platonic, everybody is just friends and loves each other. Its not telling little kids that they should bugger each other on the playground fer cryin out loud.

When I was a little kid I had a sesame street book about a family of monsters. Had absolutely no mention of monster sexuality whatsoever.