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Lord Hargreaves



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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:19 pm    Post subject:  

PrinceJunius wrote: Lord Hargreaves wrote: whats the complication over this? If the gay community stopped shoving their sexuality down society's throat there'd be a lot less "homophobia" as a reaction.

You know, I remember doing a project for school where I counted how many straight people shoved their sexuality down my throat in a single day. I counted about 200 instances.

What were these 'instances'?

"Oooh I like that girl over there"
"yeah shes fit"
"exactly i agree"

nooooooo! thats three instances of ramming heterosexuality down your throat! how do you cope?
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Lord Hargreaves



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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:24 pm    Post subject:  

Melchior wrote:

It's mainstream society that tries to shove their conformist culture down our throat.

:rotf: Our sexuality is normal, you're perverted - thus the difference. Plus heterosexuals are in the vast vast vast majority, so if heterosexual "culture" is everywhere well excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse us :roll:

Melchior wrote: I don't recall any heterosexual teenagers getting their ass kicked by homosexual teenagers because of their sexual oreintation.

They probably do, just no one notices because gay people can't kick for s**t :lol:

Melchior wrote: No one is forcing you to have gay sex, there is no gay agenda. People just want to be left alone and have the same privacy rights as anyone else.

oh but there is. There is most certainly a gay agenda, just look at this subforum. And gay people already have privacy rights, do whatever you want with whoever you want in our own home, just don't force those values onto the public square where many people believe sodomy is wrong
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SavannahMan



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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:58 pm    Post subject:  

PrinceJunius wrote: Lord Hargreaves wrote: whats the complication over this? If the gay community stopped shoving their sexuality down society's throat there'd be a lot less "homophobia" as a reaction.

You know, I remember doing a project for school where I counted how many straight people shoved their sexuality down my throat in a single day. I counted about 200 instances.

How did you know they were straight people? Did you ask them? :lol:
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StrangerWitCandy



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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:13 pm    Post subject:  

hargreaves, i find your prejudice against homosexuals to be quite perverse. so i suppose that makes us even. but i have no desire to discuss homosexuality with one who possesses such a perverted mind, therefore i will no longer be addressing you on the gay & lesbian forum. bye bye
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PrinceJunius



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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:21 pm    Post subject:  

SavannahMan wrote:
How did you know they were straight people? Did you ask them? :lol:

No, but I saw them doing disgusting things with the opposite sex, like holding hands and whatnot.
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Lord Hargreaves



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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:26 pm    Post subject:  

StrangerWitCandy wrote: hargreaves, i find your prejudice against homosexuals to be quite perverse. so i suppose that makes us even. but i have no desire to discuss homosexuality with one who possesses such a perverted mind, therefore i will no longer be addressing you on the gay & lesbian forum. bye bye

So you didn't read this?

Lord Hargreaves wrote: Gay people, and minorities in general, are so sensitive that the slightest remark can cause huge anger - thus they are prime targets for people who enjoy banter and getting a reaction

You couldn't script this stuff folks :roll:
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StrangerWitCandy



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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:26 pm    Post subject:  

PrinceJunius wrote: SavannahMan wrote:
How did you know they were straight people? Did you ask them? :lol:

No, but I saw them doing disgusting things with the opposite sex, like holding hands and whatnot.

:lol: sad thing is, some people would really think that if it were a same-sex couple
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StrangerWitCandy



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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:27 pm    Post subject:  

spoken like a true straight white male. i'm done with you hargreaves
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PrinceJunius



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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:28 pm    Post subject:  

StrangerWitCandy wrote:

:lol: sad thing is, some people would really think that if it were a same-sex couple

That's the point I was trying to make. It was a report on homophobia and prejudice.
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Lord Hargreaves



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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:34 pm    Post subject:  

StrangerWitCandy wrote: hargreaves, i find your prejudice against homosexuals to be quite perverse. so i suppose that makes us even. but i have no desire to discuss homosexuality with one who possesses such a perverted mind, therefore i will no longer be addressing you on the gay & lesbian forum. bye bye

I have no prejudice against homosexuals, nor is it perverse. Firstly, I enjoy being slightly abnoxious here because, like I said:

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Gay people, and minorities in general, are so sensitive that the slightest remark can cause huge anger - thus they are prime targets for people who enjoy banter and getting a reaction

thus my conclusion has already been proved by you :wink:

Secondly, I have never used a term incorrectly. A "pervert" is, and I quote:

One who practices sexual perversion.

And what is "sexual perversion"?

A sexual practice or act considered abnormal or deviant.


Is this not an accruate description of homosexuality?

Thus my mind is not 'perverted', I am merely using a term in its correct meaning even though that term has become taboo due to political correctness.
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PrinceJunius



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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:35 pm    Post subject:  

Quote: Firstly, I enjoy being slightly abnoxious here because, like I said:


Gay people, and minorities in general, are so sensitive that the slightest remark can cause huge anger - thus they are prime targets for people who enjoy banter and getting a reaction


So you're trolling? Which is against the forum rules?
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Lord Hargreaves



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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:40 pm    Post subject:  

PrinceJunius wrote: Quote: Firstly, I enjoy being slightly abnoxious here because, like I said:


Gay people, and minorities in general, are so sensitive that the slightest remark can cause huge anger - thus they are prime targets for people who enjoy banter and getting a reaction


So you're trolling? Which is against the forum rules?

i'm not trolling, in fact i'm the only one trying to debate and not brown nose the gay community (pardon the pun) :shifty:
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StrangerWitCandy



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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:41 pm    Post subject:  

i also used the correct definition (from dictionary.com):

per·verse ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pr-vûrs, pûrvûrs)
adj.

1. Directed away from what is right or good; perverted.
2. Obstinately persisting in an error or fault; wrongly self-willed or stubborn.
3.
a. Marked by a disposition to oppose and contradict.
b. Arising from such a disposition.
4. Cranky; peevish.

and i don't consider homosexuality to be abnormal or deviant. it is completely normal and natural for me, as it is an attraction that developed naturally against my own will. it also occurs in other species in nature, suggesting it is not so abnormal as you say. as far as deviancy goes, "society" can think what it wants. it is much more accepting of gays now than it ever has been in the past. however we obviously disagree so like i said, since we both think of each other as perverted, i suppose we are even. end of story, i disagree with you

and as much as it may disappoint you, you haven't "gotten to me." please point out to me my "huge anger." i clearly stated that i think you're perverted and that i have no desire to speak with you further on this issue. that is all i said, so go ahead and imagine me crying in the corner now if it will make you feel better about yourself
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PrinceJunius



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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:43 pm    Post subject:  

Lord Hargreaves wrote:

i'm not trolling, in fact i'm the only one trying to debate and not brown nose the gay community (pardon the pun) :shifty:

You just said that you like being obnoxious around here because you enjoy reading the ticked-off reactions from the gay posters. That's trolling, 'hun.
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StrangerWitCandy



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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:44 pm    Post subject:  

Lord Hargreaves wrote: PrinceJunius wrote: Quote: Firstly, I enjoy being slightly abnoxious here because, like I said:


Gay people, and minorities in general, are so sensitive that the slightest remark can cause huge anger - thus they are prime targets for people who enjoy banter and getting a reaction


So you're trolling? Which is against the forum rules?

i'm not trolling, in fact i'm the only one trying to debate and not brown nose the gay community (pardon the pun) :shifty:

please, who are you fooling? and stop disgusting me with your perverted comments
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SavannahMan



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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:53 pm    Post subject:  

Perhaps one could argue that "peverted" was not the absolute right word to use, "deviant" might have served the author better - but I hardly think this qualifies anyone as a troll - unless a troll is now anyone who doesnt agree with all of your positions.
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Lord Hargreaves



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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:09 pm    Post subject:  

Quote: and i don't consider homosexuality to be abnormal or deviant. it is completely normal and natural for me, as it is an attraction that developed naturally against my own will. it also occurs in other species in nature, suggesting it is not so abnormal as you say. as far as deviancy goes, "society" can think what it wants. it is much more accepting of gays now than it ever has been in the past. however we obviously disagree so like i said, since we both think of each other as perverted, i suppose we are even. end of story, i disagree with you

You are confusing term "normal" with term "natural". Homosexuality may be natural, but it isn't normal - heterosexuality is normal because its the default form of sexual orientation.

Quote: and as much as it may disappoint you, you haven't "gotten to me." please point out to me my "huge anger." i clearly stated that i think you're perverted and that i have no desire to speak with you further on this issue. that is all i said, so go ahead and imagine me crying in the corner now if it will make you feel better about yourself

I had obviously gotten to you because you no longer wish to talk to me - so kind of a contraction there :roll:
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StrangerWitCandy



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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:39 pm    Post subject:  

Lord Hargreaves wrote: I had obviously gotten to you because you no longer wish to talk to me - so kind of a contraction there :roll:

... or I don't feel like wasting my time. you admitted yourself you are being obnoxious simply to push people's buttons. point out to me my "huge anger" and prove me wrong. otherwise, think whatever you like. i really don't care what some random person in england thinks
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Lord Hargreaves



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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:54 pm    Post subject:  

StrangerWitCandy wrote: Lord Hargreaves wrote: I had obviously gotten to you because you no longer wish to talk to me - so kind of a contraction there :roll:

... or I don't feel like wasting my time. you admitted yourself you are being obnoxious simply to push people's buttons. point out to me my "huge anger" and prove me wrong. otherwise, think whatever you like. i really don't care what some random person in england thinks

Thats ok - I have a vendetta against this forum so i've been acting a bit stupid, but when an issue actually worth discussing comes up i'm more than happy to be serious :P
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Jay2014



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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:11 pm    Post subject:  

Lord Hargreaves wrote: StrangerWitCandy wrote: Lord Hargreaves wrote: I had obviously gotten to you because you no longer wish to talk to me - so kind of a contraction there :roll:

... or I don't feel like wasting my time. you admitted yourself you are being obnoxious simply to push people's buttons. point out to me my "huge anger" and prove me wrong. otherwise, think whatever you like. i really don't care what some random person in england thinks

Thats ok - I have a vendetta against this forum so i've been acting a bit stupid, but when an issue actually worth discussing comes up i'm more than happy to be serious :P

why a vendetta?
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